SQL 2005 Express And Developer Edition Installation Issues

Dec 20, 2007

I have Windows Vista, and I am tryed to install SQL Server I downloaded from MSDN. I tried both Express and Developers Edition but both give me this error when trying to install SQL Database Services


TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Setup
------------------------------

SQL Server Setup Failed to compile the Managed Object Format (MOF) file c:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Sharedsqlmgmproviderxpsp2up.mof. To proceed, see "Troubleshooting an Installation of SQL Server 2005" or "How to: View SQL Server 2005 Setup Log Files" in SQL Server 2005 Setup Help documentation.

For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkID=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=9.00.1399.06&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=29513&EvtType=sqlca%5csqlmofca.cpp%40Do_sqlMofcomp%40Do_sqlMofcomp%40x7349

Of course the help link is useless, sure looks purdy though.

Anything you folks out there on WWW can do to help will be appreciated. Please put your posts in English. By that I mean I am not that good with computers when it comes to troubleshooting so keep the technical stuff short and sweet.

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Just placed the SQL Server 2005 - Developer Edition into my Drive...

I get prompted with the following options..



This DVD contains 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit versions of this edition of SQL Server 2005. Click the link that matches your environment to begin



x86-based operating systems

x64-based operating systems

Itanuim-based operating syystems



I'm new to SQL Server... I just need to start learning how to use it... because it is being used at work... Don't need the all the features installed, just the normal table and query for the moment...



I will be installing it on my PC... i



Microsoft Windows XP - Home Edition - Version 2 - Service Pack 2



My local Hard Drive remaining capacity is 12.6GB

External Hard Drive remaining capacity is 11.0GB



Tried looking everywhere for the answer... lol (even looked at YouTube for a simple installation video....





Thanks for your help

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x86-based operating systems
x64-based operating systems
Itanuim-based operating syystems


I'm new to SQL Server... I just need to start learning how to use it... because it is being used at work... Don't need the all the features installed, just the normal table and query for the moment...

I will be installing it on my PC... i

Microsoft Windows XP - Home Edition - Version 2 - Service Pack 2

My local Hard Drive remaining capacity is 12.6GB
External Hard Drive remaining capacity is 11.0GB

Tried looking everywhere for the answer... lol (even looked at YouTube for a simple installation video....



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I even ran the windows update SP1 for Vista and MDAC 2.8 SP1


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Here are the messages in the windows system check for the sql server 2005 installation:

IIS Feature Requirement (Warning)
Messages
€¢ IIS Feature Requirement

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Here are the messages in the windows system check for the sql server 2005 installation:

IIS Feature Requirement (Warning)
Messages
€¢ IIS Feature Requirement

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Process ID : 2796
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Running: LoadResourcesAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:26
Complete: LoadResourcesAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:26, returned true
Running: ParseBootstrapOptionsAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:26
Loaded DLL:f:dc17aef5dcc0f0613f2745378bxmlrw.dll Version:2.0.3604.0
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Source File Name: utillibpersisthelpers.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:55 2005
Function Name: writeEncryptedString
Source Line Number: 124
----------------------------------------------------------
writeEncryptedString() failed
Source File Name: utillibpersisthelpers.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:55 2005
Function Name: writeEncryptedString
Source Line Number: 123
----------------------------------------------------------
Error Code: 0x80070002 (2)
Windows Error Text: El sistema no puede hallar el archivo especificado.
Source File Name: cryptohelpercryptsameusersamemachine.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Mon Jun 13 14:30:00 2005
Function Name: sqls::CryptSameUserSameMachine:rotectData
Source Line Number: 50
2
Could not skip Component update due to datastore exception.
Source File Name: datastorecachedpropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:49 2005
Function Name: CachedPropertyCollection::findProperty
Source Line Number: 130
----------------------------------------------------------
Failed to find property "InstallMediaPath" {"SetupBootstrapOptionsScope", "", "2796"} in cache
Source File Name: datastorepropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:50 2005
Function Name: SetupBootstrapOptionsScope.InstallMediaPath
Source Line Number: 44
----------------------------------------------------------
No collector registered for scope: "SetupBootstrapOptionsScope"
Running: ValidateWinNTAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27
Complete: ValidateWinNTAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27, returned true
Running: ValidateMinOSAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27
Complete: ValidateMinOSAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27, returned true
Running: PerformSCCAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27
Complete: PerformSCCAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27, returned true
Running: ActivateLoggingAction at: 2007/8/12 7:51:27
Error: Action "ActivateLoggingAction" threw an exception during execution. Error information reported during run:
Datastore exception while trying to write logging properties.
Source File Name: datastorecachedpropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:49 2005
Function Name: CachedPropertyCollection::findProperty
Source Line Number: 130
----------------------------------------------------------
Failed to find property "primaryLogFiles" {"SetupStateScope", "", ""} in cache
Source File Name: datastorepropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:50 2005
Function Name: SetupStateScope.primaryLogFiles
Source Line Number: 44
----------------------------------------------------------
No collector registered for scope: "SetupStateScope"
00E3CFC4Unable to proceed with setup, there was a command line parsing error. : 2
Error Code: 0x80070002 (2)
Windows Error Text: El sistema no puede hallar el archivo especificado.
Source File Name: datastorepropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:50 2005
Function Name: SetupBootstrapOptionsScope.InstallMediaPath
Source Line Number: 44
Class not registered.
Failed to create CAB file due to datastore exception
Source File Name: datastorecachedpropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:49 2005
Function Name: CachedPropertyCollection::findProperty
Source Line Number: 130
----------------------------------------------------------
Failed to find property "HostSetup" {"SetupBootstrapOptionsScope", "", "2796"} in cache
Source File Name: datastorepropertycollection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:50 2005
Function Name: SetupBootstrapOptionsScope.HostSetup
Source Line Number: 44
----------------------------------------------------------
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TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Setup
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Failed to load SqlSpars.dll
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System Configuration Check

- WMI Service Requirement (Success)



Messages

WMI Service Requirement


Check Passed


- MSXML Requirement (Success)



Messages

MSXML Requirement


Check Passed


- Operating System Minimum Level Requirement (Success)



Messages

Operating System Minimum Level Requirement


Check Passed


- Operating System Service Pack Level Requirement. (Success)



Messages

Operating System Service Pack Level Requirement.


Check Passed


- SQL Server Edition Operating System Compatibility (Success)



Messages

SQL Server Edition Operating System Compatibility


Check Passed


- Minimum Hardware Requirement (Warning)



Messages

Minimum Hardware Requirement


The current system does not meet the recommended hardware requirements for this SQL Server release. For detailed hardware and software requirements, see the readme file or SQL Server Books Online.


- Pending Reboot Requirement (Success)



Messages

Pending Reboot Requirement


Check Passed


- Default Installation Path Permission Requirement (Success)



Messages

Default Installation Path Permission Requirement


Check Passed


- Internet Explorer Requirement (Success)



Messages

Internet Explorer Requirement


Check Passed


- COM Plus Catalog Requirement (Success)



Messages

COM Plus Catalog Requirement


Check Passed


- ASP.Net Version Registration Requirement (Success)



Messages

ASP.Net Version Registration Requirement


Check Passed


- Minimum MDAC Version Requirement (Success)



Messages

Minimum MDAC Version Requirement


Check Passed


- Edition Change Check (Success)



Messages

Edition Change Check


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