We have a SQL 2012 server instance that has log shipping set up to another SQL 2012 server to provide a warm standby for a forward facing application. The databases on the primary server occasionally are required to be backed up and restored to a development environment, completely different server. Is there a way to schedule full backups with log shipping enabled?
View 2 RepliesAfternoon,
I have a few Log Shipped DBs that are working great.
Currently they are set to fire off every 15 minutes 24/7.
My question is this ... I need to get FULL backups of the source DBs in order to restore them on certain Dev boxes.
If I were to execute the full backup on one of these Log Shipped DBs ... how would it affect the log shipping process?
Is there a special method to accomplish this?
As a side note, what would be some concerns/issues if in being able to create the FULL backups and not interupt log shipping, I were to create the backup using a 3rd party tool like Quest LiteSpeed?
I sure wish we were on Enterprise, then I could create a mirror and then snapshot off it to create my backups BUT ... that is not the case as we stand today.
Thanks
I am in plan to implement following for backup of one of our database Enable Full recovery mode
1- Create full backup nightly
2- Create transaction log backup after every 25 min
as I am taking full backup every night, I think I can remove transaction log file backups at the time of full backup, as we can apply transaction log backup over full backup.My question is regarding removal of transaction log backups.
-Should I remove all transaction log backups and then execute full backup?
-Should I execute full backup and remove all transaction log backup older than 24Hrs ?
-Do I have to consider SCN or related info before deleting any transaction log backup ?
I am setting up Availability Groups and I want to use the secondary replica to perform the full copy_only backups to reduce the load on the primary replica.But what is the best way to check for successful full backups on Availability Group databases?
Previously I could check the system table msdb.dbo.backupset but this is not available for copy_only backups.So I wonder how people are monitoring that their full backups have been successful?
Do you just check that the SQL Agent job that runs the backup was successful?
Or do you search the SQL Server Error Log for entries like "Database backed up. Database: xxx" where database xxx is in an Availability Group?
Or is there a better method?
The space allocated to the Log in question is 180 GB. During this time period I was running TLog backups every 5 minutes, yet the log continued to chew through to 80 GB used, even after the process was complete and a final TLog backup had been taken. It continued to stay very large until the Full backup was complete -- or something else that I'm unaware of completed. Like every other DBA I typically take a TLog backup to shrink the log, but what appeared to be the case here was the Full completed and it released the used log space. All said, will Transaction Log backups not free up the log during Full backups?
View 3 Replies View RelatedUsing Ola Hallengren's scripts I do a full backup of a database on a Sunday. Then differential backups every 6 hours and log backups every hour. I would like to keep a full week of backups based off the full backup done on Sunday. Is there a way for me to clear out the diff and log folders after the successful full backup on Sunday nights?
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Hi
We are planning to setup log shipping model being setup between two sqlserver 2005 enterprise edition.
Our transaction log backup sizes are not consistent through out the day.The following is the scenario.
T1 at 8.00 -- 315MB
T2 at 8.30 -- 152MB
T3 at 9.00 -- 2.5GB
T4 at 10.00 -- 500MB
The bandwidth available is 25MB/minute. We are taking the backups of Tlogs at 30mins interval.Now at 'T3' log transfer we want to zip the file on the primary server,copy the file over the WAN and unzip it standby server.
Now i wanted to know whether to perform this kind of action(Zip,copy,unzip), can i create a separate job on primary ?? which will put the unzipped file on standby and allow the log shipping job to restore the log file (T3)
Also i wish to carry my T3,T4 etc backup -- copy-- restores through my Log shipping activity.
I cannot take 15mins backup on primary server to reduce the transaction log backup size.Thts another constraint i have.
Also tell me how to zip and unzip thru command line if u hve any link.
Please advice me
thnks for the help in advance
Regards
Arvind L
I have a WORKGROUP network with 2 SQL Server 2005 servers. I want to configure for log shipping.
When I try and set up the 'Secondary Database Settings', and try and run the process, it gets an error saying it cannot access the backup file (the secondary cannot access the backup file on the primary). The file is there. It is shared. I have created local accounts on both machines called 'SyncAccount', and have given full control over the shared directory (on the primary) and local directory on the secondary. I have chaged the SQL Agent to use the local account.
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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SQL Server Management Studio restore database 'ISC'
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (SqlManagerUI)
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Cannot open backup device '\FAtBOYISCISC.bak'. Operating system error 5(Access is denied.).
RESTORE FILELIST is terminating abnormally. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 3201)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=09.00.1399&EvtSrc=MSSQLServer&EvtID=3201&LinkId=20476
I have tested access for the created user by doing a "runas" from the command prompt.
I have invested hours in this. I have found several relevent artcles, but have not found the answer.
What is wrong with this thing?
I want to configure the logshipping to secondary database.
Already the primary database transaction log backup running every 15 minutes through (maintanance plan)
I want to skip the transaction log backup job in logshipping configuartion(disable the job)
want to use the existing transaction log backup and copy and restore in secondary using logshipping configuration
is it possible in sql 2008 r2 standard edition.
Hi
We are planning to setup log shipping model being setup between two sqlserver 2005 enterprise edition.
Our transaction log backup sizes are not consistent through out the day.The following is the scenario.
T1 at 8.00 -- 315MB
T2 at 8.30 -- 152MB
T3 at 9.00 -- 2.5GB
T4 at 10.00 -- 500MB
The bandwidth available is 25MB/minute. We are taking the backups of Tlogs at 30mins interval.Now at 'T3' log transfer we want to zip the file on the primary server,copy the file over the WAN and unzip it standby server.
Now i wanted to know whether to perform this kind of action(Zip,copy,unzip), can i create a separate job on primary ?? which will put the unzipped file on standby and allow the log shipping job to restore the log file (T3)
Also i wish to carry my T3,T4 etc backup -- copy-- restores through my Log shipping activity.
I cannot take 15mins backup on primary server to reduce the transaction log backup size.Thts another constraint i have.
Also tell me how to zip and unzip thru command line if u hve any link.
Please advice me
thnks for the help in advance
Regards
Arvind L
Is It Possible to Configure Log Shipping On a CDC Enabled Database?
View 4 Replies View RelatedI have some questions on backups and log shipping.
Before I get to them, though, the goal:
Back up a SQL 2000 database (~5GB in size) completely every day.
Back up its transaction log hourly.
Maintain a warm backup DB server using log shipping.
Here is what I have done so far, which has led to my questions:
I have stopped using maintenance plans for backups, feeling that
then the process would be less 'black boxy'
I first created two jobs to perform the daily db and hourly tlog backups
that saved the backups in files using the naming formats
<name>_db_<yymmdd>.bak and <name>_tlog_<yymmddnnss>.bak.
Issue 1: doing backups this way means that it's a little difficult for the
log shipping jobs to figure out the filenames (esp. the tlog ones), if log
shipping is going to use the files generated by the backup jobs.
Issue 2: I thought maybe I'd have log shipping generate its OWN backup
files, but would that cause problems with the transaction log? Say the
normal tlog backup fires, then fifteen minutes later the shipping tlog
backup fires. Would the shipping tlog backup file be missing the transactions
that were backed up during the normal log backup?
Issue 3: To try to help with the naming issue, I tried switching the backups from
creating new files each time to file devices whose names would be constant.
This worked, but since my database is about 5GB in size, that meant
that, with expiring backups after 7 days, the database backup device
would settle in at about 25GB (I skip weekends) and I'd have to copy
or cab-copy-uncab that file over to my warm server every day. That
seemed a little inefficient. Does anybody have alternative ideas?
My last question is for general info:
Where does SQL Server keep the information on the backups that exist?
Whether I was using individual files or file devices, I was able to go to
Database-All Tasks-Restore Database... in Enterprise Manager and it
would show me the backups that existed. I imagine these must be
stored in a system table somewhere, but I did not see any obvious place
to look (no 'sysbackups' table, etc.).
Many thanks in advance for your input!
Geoff
Quick question..
If I'm log-shipping data from a database can I still perform a full backup of it each night without it affecting the log sequence?
I've got log shipping set up, and everything seems to be working fine, but the log files are not being deleted from the primary server despite configuring log shipping to retain them for 3 days. I see no errors concerning the log shipping, but did not configure a monitor. What process is responsible for deleting the older log backups, and how can I look for errors. I could simply set up a jog to delete the older files, but that will only mask the issue.
View 3 Replies View RelatedHello,
I would like to know if anyone has a recommended method for having backups to tape while running log shipping. For example, is it possible to copy the transaction log backups used for log shipping to tape and apply them to a Full Database Restore from a 3rd Party Backup tool such as Veritas?
My goal is to be able to do a point-in-time restore from tape and still be able to use SQL Server 2005 Log Shipping.
Thanks,
Erik
Hi,
I plan to use Log Shipping on SQL 2000 to have warm standby database. I understand current procedure but have a question wether I can do full normal backups of my database server without screwing up my Log Shipping process? Also can I do transaction log backups as well (separate from the ones used for log shipping)?
I need to configure a full text search service (possibly with wildcards etc) on a SQL server. This is not my normal task, so I'm a bit in the blue. I've seen something about "contain" but don't know if I'm looking in the right direction. I should probably buy a good book, but in the mean time I thought let's try here! :)
View 3 Replies View RelatedBy default MS FTS split text by space (' ').
How to configure it to split text by underline ('_') ?
Thanks
PLEASE HELP...
WE ARE DOWNLOADING THE BACKUP FILE FROM OTHER BRANCH OFFICE AND THE FILE SIZE IS GROWING LIKE HELL SO I AM CHANGING THE BACKUP POLICY TO DOWNLOAD THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP FILES EVERYDAY. BUT EVEN THE FILE SIZE GROWS DAY BY DAY UNTILL WE TAKE THE FULL BACKUP THERE. SO I WANT TO TAKE A DIIFERNETIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY A FULL BACKUP AT THE REMOTE SERVER END. SO MY NEXT DIFFERNTIAL BACKUP WILL HAVE THE DATA OF ONLY PREVIOUS DAY.
FOR THIS I AM SCHEDULING A JOB WHICH FIRST TAKES A DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY FULL BACKUP EVERYDAY AT 12.00AM.
BUT I HAVE A CONCERN.. WHILE TAKING THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP ANY TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE TO BE COMMITED WILL NOT COMMIT UNTIL THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP COMPLETES. BUT IMMIDIATELY I AM STARTING FULL BACKUP. IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT A TRANSACTION GETTING COMMITTED IN BETWEEN THESE TWO STEPS. IF SO IS THERE ANY WAY .. NOT RELEASE THE DATABASE UNTILL THESE 2 BACKUPS ARE COMPLETED?? I AM RUNNING IT AS A JOB..
ANY SUGGESTION??
THANKS IN ADVANCE.. :-)
KUMAR
I have daily scheduled full backups of each database and log backups scheduled for every 2 hours. My question is should they be scheduled for overwriting or appending? I have always had them set as overwrite, but I don't know if that is correct? Any recommendations would be appreciated
View 2 Replies View RelatedDoes the full and differential backups have to be in the same location or can I do a once a week full backup on one drive and everyday differential backups on a different drive?
Thanks
Hi all,
We have log shipping set up for some our databases.
So, my question is, Can i take a FULL BACKUP of databases which are involved in log shiping at primary.
--> Please give your comments on this.
Thanks.
Has anyone seen this before?
Every Sunday morning (a different time each week) there is a full backup created for every database on the server. The backup is not a scheduled backup from any maintenance plan or SQL Agent job. The backup set is unrestorable and has a strange name in the format of 'DBNAME_00_12c95fb7_399d_41ce_9a0d_b5728b6a00ba_'
Because this backup is listed as the last full backup and will not restore, it is causing a problem with our disaster recovery plans as nothing will restore from this point forward to the next full backup.
Does anyone know how a backup record like this can get created, and/or how to find the source. The backups are listed in the backupsets table in msdb - are there other system tables that may hold some clues as to the source of these backups?
Any help or direction would be appreciated.
Thanks
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
In what scenario – diff and full backups have same size? My guess is excessive fragmentation, any thoughts?
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But i have one issue bothering me, it will be great if someone can help me out on this
1. I take full backup on Monday 8 pm which ends at 9.30 PM
2. Diff Backup starts at 10 PM every 2 hrs till Tuesday 7.59 PM
3. Transactional Log backup is happening every 10 min till tueday 7.59 PM
Now when i restore it in the same order i get error that Log in the set is too late to apply. I have recemmonded by team to stop log backup on the time they start full backups and take transactional log backup only after differentials are restored. Now is this a correct suggestion???
Also appendin the differential backup is a good idea or overwriting them is a better approach if Database is backedup every night and Differential occurs every 2 hrs.
I am running a full backup quarterly using "with init" to overwrite the existing file if it is still on the server. Then I run a differential back weekly using "with init". Finally I run a transaction log backup nightly using "with init".
My question is should I be using "with init" for the transaction log backup or allow it to accumulate until the next differential backup?
Hi sql server experts.
This is a beginners question.
Let's say, I run a full backup at 4:30 am it takes usually 35 minutes to finish.
I want to schedule a differential backup to run every hour.
Should I start this job at 5:10 after the full backup finishes? or it doesn't matter?
I am confused about timing.
Let's say my full back up takes 1 hour to finish, that means that when the differential backup runs the full backup will be still running, so in case I need to restore the database, can I use this differential from 5:10 or the differential from 6:10.
Same issue with the transactional, the job runs every 30 minutes, should I started after the differential is done?
I am so confused, what happens with the backups jobs that run while other backups are running?
Is this something that should never happen.
Please advise.
Thanks
Hi All,
Is there a way to suppress or re-direct the messages that result from a tran. log dump? We're running a tran. log dump every 15 minutes in prod. and the errorlog is really cumbersome to look at.
(In another RDBMS I worked with all backup messages went to a separate error/message log.)
TIA!
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
We are having full backup every day and hourly transactional log backups during the working hours in our production server which is running sql server2008 R2 as a clustered instance. For the Db's under simple recovery model we are having full backups. Now we want to implement transaction log shipping to a remote server in another site. I understand that log shipping involves the restoration of a full backup initially in the remote server and then restoring the transactional log backups which are shipped to it ,on a no recovery basis.
My question is whether we can continue taking the full backups every day in the production sever which is given for offsite storage. Will the full backups taken in the primary server, after the log shipping has been implemented, affect the log backups which are restored into the remote server. Will the chain of log backups which are restored into the secondary server be affected in any manner if a full backup is taken in the primary?
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
Regarding backups.
The first available time to do a full backup is at 11:00pm which also applies to diff. backups.
How often does the trans. logs need a back up?