SQL Express Or MS Access ?

Jan 11, 2007

Hello,
I need local database for my winforms application . In database will be stored c. 2000 records in 15 tables .
Is better use MS Access file or Sql Expres or something esle ?
Is working with Sql Expres faster then MS Acess (with c. 2000 records)?

Ondra.

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