SQL Express Or Workgroup? How Do I Tell What Is Installed And Where?
Apr 5, 2007
Hi guys,
I am a Systems Engineer and was sent on a job to a site that has a newly created SBS 2003 R2 Premium box which was OEM pre-installed from Dell. The SBS install was evidently finished off by the I.T. guys at the site. Now along comes some software house to install their propritery application. During this install process, the software guy was unable to find an instance of SQL running and installs SQL 2005 Express and the Express Studio management console. He installs his application and before he leaves says to the I.T. guys "Oh and by the way, there is a 4GB limit per database on SQL Express. You will have to change that to workgroup edition before the data grows too big. Have a nice day byeee!!!".
The I.T. guys go "Huh? Lets call James." So now I have to get this database off the SQL Express instance and onto a workgroup instance. I understand about detaching a database and re-attaching it. No prob there. What is confusing me is when I look at the default instance which should be a Workgroup instance, all I see is an Express instance.
What I am planning to do is rip out all the SQL 2005 stuff, leaving behind only Sharepoint, SBSmonitoring and WSUS stuff. The, using the SBS Premium cd's, install SQL 2005 again and updating the service packs for it again. Then mount the databases under it and get the software guys back in to reconfigure their application if need be.
Thing is, I have no idea how to sort it all out other than "Add remove programs" in control panel and remove the SQL 2005 stuff. What scares me however, is the thought of also removing the Sharepoint, WSUS and SBSMonitoring databases too.
Can someone help me with a procedure for sorting it out? How can I tell what I should uninstall and what I shouldn't? How do I tell if workgroup is already there and why did express steal the default instance?
Cheers
James
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Jan 26, 2006
Hi Friends,
I have a question. At my home computer i downloaded and installed VWD. As usual it also installed Sqlexpress as part of the installation(i checked the option). Later on i downloaded Management studio separately so i am fine with my home computer as every thing is free.
But at work we decided to develop application using VS 2005 and Sqlserver 2005. So we bought and installed VS2005 professional edition at work and it also installed Sqlexpress during the installation as a defualt desktop engine. I am fine with that too. But i am not understing where do i get the Management studio? Is it some thing i could get it off the web for free or what? I am not sure we would have an option while installing the VS 2005 professional that also does install management studio and we need to check that option. I am not sure if we could get the management studion off the web for free and and evelop applications.
Please advise. Thanks -L
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Apr 26, 2007
Hello,
I am currently hosting my ecommerce site on a dedicated server with dual AMD processors and 2 gigs of ram. I have on average 20 people on the site at one time.
on this server i have sql express, from which i understand, only utilizes one of the processors and 1gig of ram. I have the choice to pay an extra 150 a month to have my host put sql workgroup on my system.
My question is, will i notice any kind of real performace boost by upgrading. Or at the level that i am at, there wont be much difference?
Any help would be very useful.
Thanks
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Aug 8, 2007
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to connect to a sql express on a workgroup PC through sql server 2005 standard edition remotely but i can't.
I have checked and make sure that tcp/ip and other protocals are allowed. There is no firewall on both PCs and the sql browser service is running as well.
Somehow i can connect using the IP address but not the name?
Any idea why?
TA
Gemma
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Sep 27, 2005
Hello -- Please excuse my extreme newbieness -- trying to get up to speed fast on SQL Server Express for work. I've been able to set up the software, create a database, and access it with no problems on my local computer, but I need to make the database available to other computers in my workgroup. I followed instructions -- enabled TCP/IP and Named Pipes and turned on SQL Server Browser, and I was actually able to manipulate one system database (the "master" database) from another computer but not any other databases, not even the other system databases. I can connect to any of the databases with the SQLCMD commands, but if I try to do any SELECT commands (other than in "master") I get an error: "SELECT permission denied on object '[MyTable]', database '[MyDatabase]', schema 'dbo'". I was only able to get into "master" after adding "guest" as a user, but adding this user to the other databases has no effect. One interesting thing: When I used the sp_table_privileges command on each database, all but "master" showed all privileges being granted to and from "dbo", but "master" didn't show anything being granted to or from anybody. Does anyone know what could be going on here? Am I missing something obvious? Thanks for any and all help!
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Feb 19, 2007
Hi all,
In the past if we wanted to provide an application with simple (multi-user) database facilities, we would use an Access mdb database which we could basically xcopy deploy to the client. Share the folder across the network and apart from the limitations of mdb databases it would work !!!
With all the advancements in databases ! we have moved on to SQL Express - touted as the thing to use and the replacement for MSDE and MDB databases. But hang on a minute !! It doesn't work like that ! You can't deploy Express like we used to with MDB databases - the default Express database doesn't allow multi-access ?? and if you can't xcopy deploy the Express database. The 'user Instance' thing is useless - basically every user gets their own copy of the database !!! How many developers asked Microsoft for that one!! It's crazy!!
We just need to copy our exe files and the mdf file share across a workgroup and bingo network version of our software - it's not brain surgery - Is it! We don't need mountains of security - we need (FIRST OF ALL) easy deployment.
Please tell me I've got it wrong and you can deploy a SQL Express based application without jumping thru hoops ????
Regards
Steve
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Jun 6, 2006
hello,
i have no idea what i am doing here and could use some help from someone who knows what they are doing.
i have a proliant ml350 g3 server running windows 2003 server with sql express 2005 software.
all the databases are running in compatibility sql 7 mode.
I would like them to be in sql 2005 mode if possible. Is there a way to upgrade the databases in the process?
here's a plan I came up with:
take sql workgroup 2005 edition evaluation, install it on a machine.
Mount all databases on the machine.
Wipe out the sql express 2005 machine, reinstall workgroup edition on the new server.
but here is my question
is there a way to migrate the data from the workgroup edition over to the new server through a DTS copy process, and if so, will it create a new version of the databases with the proper collation or the proper english?
please let me know. if this works, i will be thrilled!
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Feb 1, 2007
Hello,
when I try to upgrade SQL Server 2005 using this command line:
setup.exe /qb SKUUPGRADE=1 UPGRADE=SQL_Engine INSTANCENAME=Z1 SQLACCOUNT=NT-AUTORITÄTSYSTEM SECURITYMODE=SQL SAPWD=XXXXXX
I get error 28092 (administrator rights needed).
It seems like the upgrade tries to use Windows authentification although I've told it to use SQL Server authentification. Or did I miss a parameter in my command line?
If I do the upgrade manually it works without needing Windows authentification.
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Aug 8, 2006
How do SQL 2000 service packs play a role in upgrading? That is, can SQL 2000 Standard with no Service Packs(SP) be upgraded to SQL 2005 Standard, or does SQL 2000 Standard have to have a certain service pack(SP).
What about re-applying SQL 2005 service packs when upgrading Express SP1 to Workgroup, etc.?
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Jun 15, 2005
In MSDE sql server 2000 dtsrun was available to execute the dts packages but now with sql server 2005 express edition integration service is not part of express/workgroup edition and the dtsexec run time is also not available.
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May 18, 2006
Hi-
I had previously had VS2005 Beta installed from my MSDN discs. When it expired, I uninstalled it and downloaded VWD Express to install. VWD installed fine, but the SQL Server Express will not install. The VWD install package doesn't give me any feedback, just says it failed. I tried dowloading and installing SQL Express separately, and it tells me that I have to uninstall all components from other versions. I have done that, but still wont install. If I use the uninstall utility on the website, it tells me it can't find any components, and all of the components listed in the manual uninstall instructions are missing, so I can't find anything further to uninstall. (FYI: I'm running XP Pro SP2).
I'm wondering if a registry setting or something didn't get updated on uninstall. I see a registry folder for "Microsoft SQL Server" but I do not know if this could be getting in the way.
Any help would be appreciated.
-Moz
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Dec 29, 2006
my system meets the requirements and I have installed .net framework 2.0,
why can't i run sql express?
I tried running it from command prompt but nothing happens?
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Jul 24, 2006
This may be a stupid question, but I've installed SQL Express and I don't know what to do next. I went to my program files/Microsft SQL... and the only folder present is a configuration folder.
Next I went to my control panel/admin tools/ODBC and succussfully created a user data source. (With the help of the forum!)
Obviously, I've never used SQL before, but I've read a couple of books and other stuff online, and I want to teach myself. So I decided to install this. Basically, I'm looking for answers on how to access the database. I know it's installed, it's in the Add/Remove programs list. I just don't know how to connect/access it.
Sorry for the dumb question.
Stacey
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May 22, 2007
Hi All,
I had Visual web express and SQL 2005 express installed. Then I uninstalled SQL 2005 for a period of time. In that time, I installed Office 2007 with Business Contact Manager which uses a SQL 2005 database for it's contact DB. I beleive it's a SQL express 2005 version, I'm not sure. Anyway, now I install SQL 2005 express again. I install it as the default instance. The problem is, it's no longer COMPUTERSQLEXPRESS, it's now COMPUTERMSSQLSERVER.
I've found in the Machine.Config where the provider is located for ASP configuration and I changed it from .SQLEXPRESS to nothing and that did the trick, the ASP.Net Web configuration tool works fine now.
The problem is now Visual Web Express doesn't think SQL Express 2005 is installed. If I try to create a database, I get a warning to install SQL Express. I can't find the setting where I can tell VWD that SQL is installed and it's called MSSQLSERVER instead of SQLEXPRESS.
Thanks
Tony
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Jan 13, 2007
Hi
I've succesfully installed Visual C# and I've made a couple of example projects. I now want to try and create a database and see if I can make a C# application that talks to it.
So I've installed SQL Server Express. I was hoping I could open it up and get started with creating tables etc. Instead, my Start menu shows:
Microsoft SQL Server 2005
>>>Configuration Tools
>>>>>>SQL Server Configuration Manager
>>>>>>SQL Server Error and Usage Reporting
>>>>>>SQL Server Surface Area Configuration
Where do I go now? Is there some configuring to do before I can start making tables and storing data? Or, have I misunderstood what SQL Server is about?
Thanks
Rich
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Sep 4, 2007
using windows xp with visual studio
once installed, how can you tell wh ichis installed:
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition (SQLEXPR32.EXE)
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services (SQLEXPR_ADV.exe)
I have checked all the obvious.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Bob
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Jul 17, 2006
Hi everyone,
I believe I have installed SQL server 2005 (SQLServer2005_SSMSEE.msi) and I can run "Mircosoft SQL server Management Studio Express"
I can see the "Connect to Database Engine dialog", however I am unable to connect to a server (I know I need to create a server or instance but don't know how ;-( ):
Server Type: Database Engine
Server name:
Authenitication: Window Authentication
User Name: myIDmyID
Password:
Now, how do I create a server name (instance?)? Do I need to download other software to create an instance so I can try the SQL Server locally?
Please help ,I am lost ;-(
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Jul 12, 2007
so ... now what do I do?
When I launch the app I am asked for server type: DATABASE ENGINE or SQL SERVER COMPACT EDITION.
the server name is blank. Im stuck here. some one please help?
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Jan 26, 2007
I have done all I can to resolve this on my own and would really appreciate any help anyone can give me. I have run uninstall utilities, followed a few MSDN reinstall methods, but all roads lead back to this vicious cycle:
The install hangs trying to install the prereq Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Setup Support Files with Error 1612. So I try to uninstall the Support files using Add/Remove..but the Windows Installer looks for "Microsoft SQL Server Native Client" disk, which of course I don't have because I install from downloads from Microsoft.
That's the very short version. I've got a ton of hours reading help groups, MSDN, trying everything.
I have posted the error log file below. Thanks in advance.
=== Verbose logging started: 1/25/2007 21:01:41 Build type: SHIP UNICODE 3.01.4000.2435 Calling process: c:6b4bf5519a6c349936f69599setup.exe ===
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:265]: Resetting cached policy values
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:265]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 0
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:265]: ******* RunEngine:
******* Product: {53F5C3EE-05ED-4830-994B-50B2F0D50FCE}
******* Action:
******* CommandLine: **********
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:265]: Client-side and UI is none or basic: Running entire install on the server.
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:265]: Grabbed execution mutex.
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:281]: Cloaking enabled.
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:281]: Attempting to enable all disabled priveleges before calling Install on Server
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:281]: Incrementing counter to disable shutdown. Counter after increment: 0
MSI (s) (98:90) [21:01:41:296]: Grabbed execution mutex.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Resetting cached policy values
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 0
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: ******* RunEngine:
******* Product: {53F5C3EE-05ED-4830-994B-50B2F0D50FCE}
******* Action:
******* CommandLine: **********
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Machine policy value 'DisableUserInstalls' is 0
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: User policy value 'SearchOrder' is 'nmu'
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: User policy value 'DisableMedia' is 0
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Machine policy value 'AllowLockdownMedia' is 0
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Media enabled only if package is safe.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Looking for sourcelist for product {53F5C3EE-05ED-4830-994B-50B2F0D50FCE}
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Adding {53F5C3EE-05ED-4830-994B-50B2F0D50FCE}; to potential sourcelist list (pcode;disk;relpath).
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Now checking product {53F5C3EE-05ED-4830-994B-50B2F0D50FCE}
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Media is enabled for product.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Attempting to use LastUsedSource from source list.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Source with value name '1' is blank
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Note: 1: 1706 2: -2147483647 3: SqlSupport.msi
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Processing net source list.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: Note: 1: 1706 2: -2147483647 3: SqlSupport.msi
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:296]: SOURCEMGMT: Processing media source list.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: Note: 1: 2203 2: 3: -2147287037
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: SOURCEMGMT: Source is invalid due to missing/inaccessible package.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: Note: 1: 1706 2: -2147483647 3: SqlSupport.msi
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: SOURCEMGMT: Processing URL source list.
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: Note: 1: 1402 2: UNKNOWNURL 3: 2
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: Note: 1: 1706 2: -2147483647 3: SqlSupport.msi
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: Note: 1: 1706 2: 3: SqlSupport.msi
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: SOURCEMGMT: Failed to resolve source
MSI (s) (98:E4) [21:01:41:312]: MainEngineThread is returning 1612
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:312]: Decrementing counter to disable shutdown. If counter >= 0, shutdown will be denied. Counter after decrement: -1
MSI (c) (2C:64) [21:01:41:312]: MainEngineThread is returning 1612
=== Verbose logging stopped: 1/25/2007 21:01:41 ===
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Apr 23, 2006
setup support flie error.
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Oct 8, 2006
I am attempting to install SQL Express 2005 on a laptop that already has MS Sql Server installed.
I downloaded the SQLEXPR_TOOLKIT.EXE from Microsoft's website and let it go through its installation routine accepting all the default answers.
When I open SQL Server Management Studio Express, I can only connect to the SQL 2000 instance. I have issued the 'SELECT @@VERSION' command, and When I try to connect to the instance COMPUTERNAMESQLEXPRESS, the following error message is displayed:
Cannot connect to YOUR-F8A010A9D0SQLEXPRESS.
An error has occurred while establishing a connection to the server. When connecting to SQL Server 2005, this failure my be caused by the fact that under the default settings SQL Server does not allow remote connections. (provider: SQL Network Interfaces, error: 26 - Error locating Server/Instance Specified) (Microsoft SQL Server)
When I go to remove SQL Express 2005 using the add/remove programs, there is a check box that says
"Remove SQL Server 2005 instance components"
and in the box underneath where it lists all the instances it says: "No instances have been installed"
How do I create an instance for SQL Server 2005?
Thank you
Susan
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Mar 6, 2006
Does anyone have a experience or links to resources for implimenting SQL Server 2005 Express in a Windows peer-to-peer workgroup?
Thanks.
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Mar 21, 2006
I created a mdf file but couldnt for the life of me install it into SQL Sever Express [and when I say install i mean attach]. When I used SQL Server Ent, I had no issues. The only warning I got was that my mdf file was used by another process when I tried to attach with VS 2005 [ which is correct because ent had it]. I think mdf files are pretty touchy. Does anyone have any good articles on best practices? It seems you cant have a db with the same name as your attachment [ which would make sense] or have mdf files in the Data directory of your SQL Server instance you are trying to attach to. You will get the unc share error if you do. I think I need to start using user Instances but I could be wrong. You cant use them in ent but maybe i will solve my issue with attaching db files to express. I noticed that by default express doesnt install in mix auth mode and there might be some issues with access. How does everyone else normally install their mdf files for quick deployment [ say you want to deploy your db with your app so that users can quickly get started] ?
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Apr 30, 2007
I have downloaded Sql-Server Express Edition along with Visual Studio and Microsoft.Net software. However I cannot see it in my start programs what have I done incorrectly? JT.
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Nov 7, 2006
I'm new to SQL Express and from the SQL Express DOWNLOAD page you need to install .NET Framework 2 then install SQL Express. After installing .NET Framework 2.0 I then attempt to install SQL Express and I get a message that SQL Server 2005 Setup has detected incompatible components from beta versions of Visual Studio, .NET Framework or SQL Server 2005. I used the Visual Studio removal tool and it took out .NET Framwork. I re-installed this and did a reboot and get the SAME ISSUE! CAN ANYONE GET ME OUT OF THIS MS loop nightmare.
Thanks! Jeff
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Jul 26, 2006
I am aware that instances of both can exist on the same machine.
But I assume that is when a different instance of SQL Server Express is installed with an existing instance of MSDE2000
Many moons ago, when the various flavours and betas of SQL Express became available, I upgraded from MSDE2000 - didn't think I would need it again.
I now have an application, Sony Vegas 6, which uses MSDE2000 for it's Media Manager. According to their support it won't install to SQL Server Express 2005.
When I try to install MSDE2000, it always fails with "Setup failerd to configure server..." and rolls back.
In the event log, there is an entry
The description for Event ID ( 19011 ) in Source ( MSSQL$SONY_MEDIAMGR )
cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this
description; see Help and Support for details. The following
information is part of the event: (SpnRegister) : Error 1355.
I have down all the usual things like uninstalling SQL Server Express 2005 (using control panel and msiexec /x {GUID}), patching the registry etc etc
The result is always the same.
The Sony Media Manager is not important and I probably won't use it but it's annoying the hell out of me - I've always claimed, over a good few years, that there was no computer problem that I couldn't finally solve, but presently this has got me beat and I feel undone!!!!!!! :-)
regards
Stuart
www.mckears.com
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Jan 7, 2008
We are needing to script to find out if our servers have a full version of SQL Server installed or if it is just SQL Express that is used by one of our backup software vendors. How can we do this? Currently, we are having to go into each server and look at the SQL console. Anything that someone can suggest would be greatly appreciated as we have hundreds of servers to go through.
Thanks much in advance.
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Nov 24, 2006
A couple of weeks ago I installed SQL Express on a system that also has VS 2005, Front Page and other applications. Now the Front Page application can no longer connect to the web server and I keep getting a message:
Server error: Error 2 opening registry key "SOFTWAREMicrosoftShared ToolsWeb Server ExtensionsPortsPort 80".
Has anyone else seen this error? Any suggestions on resolving this.
I did try a reinstall of Front Page and the error is still there.
John
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Feb 21, 2007
Hi All! I'm a newbie to SQL & have a question about Reporting Services. I have already installed SQL Express & now want to install Reporting Services. Is there a way to install just this feature or do I need to do a complete re-install? Thanks!
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May 16, 2007
I installed SQL Server Express trail for 3 times each with new instance. Now I came to know that I need to have a default instance. I un-installed the SQL Server Express and tried to install it again. It still says I have installed instances and if I select default instance the option buttons are un-checked and disabled. I tried to delete all the folders related to the SQL Server installationa dn tried but still I see the same thing. Please help me in istalling the default instance.
Thank you.
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Nov 2, 2006
We have serveral app groups that have installed SQL 2005 Express, but each group have installed different components. How can I determine, specifically if the following components were previously installed.
ADDLOCAL=SQL_Engine
ADDLOCAL=SQL_FullText
ADDLOCAL=RS_Server
And if not installed re-install with the missing component??
Thanks
Tony Z
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Apr 11, 2008
Hi,
A simple question. I installed successfully Visual Studio 2008 Standard edition on my VISTA Ultimate 32bits machine. During install process, I also checked SQL Server Express 2005 item.
Which version of SQL Server Express 2005 did it install? Are we talking about SP2? If so, can I install without problem a more complete SP2 package using following links
SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP2 http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=65109
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Toolkit http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=65111
without screwing the now existing SQL Server Express setup VS2008 installed?
Thanks in advance,
Stéphane
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Can we upgrade from Express 2005 to Standard/Workgroup 2005??If possible with what complexities can it be done??
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