SQL Licenses In Multi-server ETL Environment
Jan 6, 2004
My company uses a quad processor server connected to a SAN to load and summarize detail sales information from 2000 stores on a nightly basis. We poll and load around 5,000,000 rows of data each night. THis information is summarized up to various levels, then replicated to one or more secondary datamart servers for end user access via web reporting, BI tools like Proclarity/Analysis Services etc...
The initial data polling server is only touched by the development staff supporting the process (1-5 programmers) and is licensed for SQL server Enterprise using a CAL model. Each datamart server is licensed with MS SQL server processor licenses.
The question: We were told that the quad processor polling machine, which has no end user access allowed, must be licensed with processor licenses since it touchs the data ultimately consumed by end users. This makes no sense to me.
The Microsoft white papers discussing multi_tier environments don't seem to address this type of issue. They focus on applications that ultimately pass thru a data request to the SQL server machine. In this situation, user requests are handled by the datamart servers, which are licensed with processor SQL licenses.
Can anyone clarify?
Thanks, Mike
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Sep 23, 2014
Disaster Recovery Options based on the following criteria.
--Currently running SQL 2012 standard edition
--We have 18000 databases (same schema across databases)- majority of databases are less than 2gb-- across 64 instances approximately
--Recovery needs to happen within 1 hour (Not sure that this is realistic
-- We are building a new data center and building dr from the ground up.
What I have looked into is:
1. Transactional Replication: Too Much Data Not viable
2. AlwaysOn Availability Groups (Need enterprise) Again too many databases and would have to upgrade all instances
3. Log Shipping is a viable option and the only one I can come up with that would work right now. Might be a management nightmare but with this many databases probably all options with be a nightmare.
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Oct 1, 2007
We are currently managing about 75 SQL Server instances. Each instance contains jobs (backups, index work, admin, etc) which report back to a central instance for monitoring. This is working well, but each time I need to change one of the jobs, I am having to log into each instance to do so.
I have recently played with Multi-server Environment, using a master and target, to see if this might help. There is relatively little written about Multi-server in books-online, and I am left with a question.
All jobs appear to be exact duplicates. But I don't want exact duplicates. For example, on the various target servers, I would like for the backup jobs to run at different times, and write to different directories. How are the rest of you working around this situation, if you are using Multi-server Environment?
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Jan 20, 2007
I was wondering if you guys might give me some advice on how best to handle a particular scenario i'm struggling with.
I have a client that basically wants web-based-update access to their sql server database. Specifically, for a group of users to be able to access a page where they select a record for editing. the caveat is that no two users should be able to pull up the same record at the same time. Originally I would have thought there was some easier record-locking-mechanism I could exploit within sql server or ado.net itself, but I haven't been able to come up with anything.. so this is my current approach:
The page they use starts-out with basically a blank form. there are custom-built paging controls at the bottom of the screen. they click page-forward to begin and a stored procedure is ran to select a record and update a field on that record to indicate "in-process". when they finish editing the record - or page on to the next record without updating - another stored procedure is ran - updating/resetting the status field on the record appropriately.
The entire page is encapsulated within an ajax.net updatepanel.
The entire page has caching disabled. This works well in conjunction with the first page being blank. if they get out of the app and try to get back in by clicking the back button - all they can do is get to the first (blank) page.
A piece of javascript window.onunload clicks a button on the page that releases the record they currently have selected in the event of a re-direct, clicking back, etc.. it appears to work with everything except a window close. in that case, i have a stored procedure running periodically on the server that checks how long a record has been selected - and if it exceeds the time indicated - resets the record as to allow it to be re-selected later.
In the event of session timeout, they are redirected to another page that tells them their session has timed-out (and since the window.onunload fires - it takes care of releasing the record if they have one on the screen).
The concept seemed to be working well until I started multi-user testing. Now it seems as if two users time it perfectly - they are actually able to both select the same record. it happens pretty rarely, but it does seem to happen. I'm guessing this has to do with how my stored procedure is structured - possibly allowing a tiny-enough window between the record being selected for editing - and the update running to actually status the record as in-process (2 separate sql statements within the one stored procedure).
I believe I also have a found a second quirk in my approach where something is causing the window.onunload event to fire twice in some strange situations.. but that's more annoying/confusing from a logging standpoint than anything..
I've read where people say to ensure you dont update a record that's already been updated - that you should compare the fields before you actually perform the update and ensure they haven't changed since you selected it.. but to me that doesn't solve anything.. if two people select the same record and both spend time working on it - the person that tries to update last has just wasted their time.
I've also toyed with the idea of maintaining a separate table in the database to hold the keys to the currently selected records and use that to keep multiple people from selecting the same record - but honestly i dont know if that approach is any better than what i'm doing now.
anyway, I was just curious if you guys had any advice in regards to how you'd handle a request like this.. or if you see any obvious problems/fixes with my current approach..
I would greatly appreciate any info you could provide-
thanks-
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Aug 17, 2015
I am setting up sharepoint and sql server integration environment. I am considering the following topology: PowerPivot for SharePoint 2013 and Reporting Services in SharePoint mode Two Server Deployment
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I am looking to follow the topology example by the letter, which involves installing PowerPivot for SharePoint (aka SSAS in SharePoint mode) in the same server as my SQL, and installing SSRS in SharePoint (SP) integrated mode in the same server as SharePoint.
I understand, however, that if I wanted to install SSRS in SP mode in the same server as SQL, I could but only if the server contains the SP Object Model.
My first question is, what would involve having the SP Object Model in the SQL Server?
Would only installing SP binaries be enough; or Do I need to do a minimal install of SP in the SQL server enough for it to joing the SP farm? And most importantly, what would be the licensing implications for SP in case I want proceed down this route and have SSRS in SharePoint mode installed in the same server as the SQL?
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Nov 27, 2006
I am currently working on a project in which I am using SqlTransaction objects with their IsolationLevel set to Serializable. I am wondering what would be the effect if multiple threads were to call this code at the same time? Would the second transaction (created by the second thread on the same connection), for example, be queued until the first one (created by the first thread on the same connection) finishes? Or would an exception be thrown for the second transaction? In case an exception is thrown, would using the synchronization (locks) around critical sections solve the issue?
I guess it is easier to understand the scope of transactions in terms of multiple users, but it is confusing (for me) when I start thinking in terms of multiple threads. The underlying data is held in a single table and the scope of the transaction spans multiple SELECTs and an UPDATE or an INSERT.
I have been trying to find a feasible answer, and haven't found anything credible yet. Help!
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Mar 27, 2007
My product is growing rapidly and currently I have a db for each client with identical schema. Of course maintenance is pretty hard. I was thinking of using a shared db but having a schema for each client (sql 2005) - I have almost 100 tables in the schema which means with just 10 clients the db would pass 1000 tables. My gut is telling me this ain't going to fly!any ideas? and if it does work ... any thoughts on updating the internal schemas for each client?thanks-c
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Feb 6, 2004
Hi,
I am developing reporting application (access project) which will be used in multi user environment.
Here is what I have:
1 SQLServer database for many users
Each report will be based on:
stored procedure which creates a table filtered for specific dates predefined views will use the newly generated table to show results to the client. However, if more than 1 person runs reports results will not be accurate if each person specified different dates because they will look at the same table and results will match only for a user who called the stored procedure last.
what can you recommend - how to report in multi user environment?
Many thanks
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Apr 19, 2007
Hi!
In my database I have all business logic in stored procedures. For example there are procedures: ReadBike and UpdateBike. Bike is business object stored in 4 tables.
On my system work 100 employees and we have one problem with this. The stroy is;
1. User A reads data about Bike1
2. User B reads data about Bike1
3. User A updates data about Bike1 (user B have old data)
4. User B updates data about Bike1
So user B don't know about chnages made by user A. How to solve that ptroblem?
It's probably solved in ADO, but I want use business login in procedures.
Regards,
Walter
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Oct 19, 2006
Hello--
Is it possible to install/configure SQL-Server 2005 on a multi-processor machine so that the relational DB utilizes a given subset of processors while Analysis Services utilizes another subset?
Thanks,
- Paul
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May 16, 2006
Dear All
I have developed a system which has SQL server as a backend... Reading Microsofts Licensing required i m a bit puzzled if a CAL license is required for each user that is created on my system. i.e. If my system has 5 users, do i need 5 CAL licences.. however, in order to present the required data to these users i log to SQL server with the same single account.
Regards
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Mar 8, 2000
I need to install some SQL Licenses but the Control Panel applet is non-functional (It states that I have an NFR version of NT). Is there another way to activate licenses?
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Jul 20, 2005
Hello everybodyI've got a small system (~20 client machines) connected to one SQL Server2000. Two of these machines refuse to connect to the database. As I don'tknow how the license system is supposed to work, I haven't investigatedtoo much yet.My question is therefore:Will SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition refuse to accept any newconnections when all licenses are used?Is such case, what tool do I use to add more licenses?thanks in advance--Johnny Ljunggren
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Jul 23, 2006
hi all,
our company is using SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition as a backend for inventory and sales data storage.
The top management of our company has decided to web enable all the data for sales and inventory so that any authorized user can have access to the data from anywhere in the world.
now my question is that how many SQL Server licenses will we require if we are going to use it for the web?
We currently hold 20 licenses.
Thanx in advance.
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Apr 23, 2007
Hello,This is hopefully just a quick question. I'm looking to re-jig our in-house development infrastructure and part of that will be some sort of SQL Server product, and I'm hoping it will be the Developer edition.My question is, how many copies of the Developer edition would I need to purchase, if I have one Windows 2003 server (which will server the databases) and two client machines which will use it.My initial thought is 2 copies, one for each user (as the license states). But what about the server? Do I just install one of the two copies onto the server and the license covers the two client connections?This might seem a silly question with an obvious answer to you guys. However, am I right? I just need to get this clear in my head.Thanks in advance..
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Nov 16, 2005
I have finished a change request from our client. I need to update clients' database with the one in developments.Here is the changes i made to database:Added/Changed some tablesAdded/Changed some stored proceduresAdded data to some dictionary tableThe data in clients' current database MUST be kept. So how can I merge the changed information to clients' database?
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Mar 27, 2007
I am new to Reporting Services and hope that what I am looking to do is within capabilities :-)
I have many identical schema databases residing on a number of data servers. These support individual clients accessing them via a web interface. What I need to be able to do is run reports across all of the databases. So the layout is:
Dataserver A
Database A1
Database A2
Database A3
Dataserver B
Database B1
Database B2
Dataserver C
Database C1
Database C2
Database C3
I would like to run a report that pulls table data from A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, C1, C2, C3
Now the actual number of servers is 7 and the number of databases is close to 1000. All servers are running SQL2005.
Is this something that Reporting Services is able to handle or do I need to look at some other solution?
Thanks,
Michael
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Aug 1, 2000
hello!
i am getting the following error in the windows NT event viewer daily atleast twice or thrice...
"The product Microsoft SQL Server 7.0 is out of licenses. Use License Manager from the Administrative Tools folder for more information on which users are out of compliance and how many licenses should be purchased. "
we have recently got an open license agreement also for sql server from microsoft.till now we were using a temporary license.how to apply the details in the certificate so that i don't get the error?
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Jul 20, 2005
Can you change your license setup if it was initially done by seat andyou want to change it to by processor? The server is already up andrunning in a production environment. If so how?
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Oct 17, 2007
As I understand it, if I have a 4 CPU box and I buy 4 processor licenses for SQL Server 2005 Standard, I can run 16 instances of SQL Server on that box.
Now given a cluster set up for active/passive I understand that if I license the same way I can have 16 instances on one of the nodes of the cluster. In the event of a failure, the instances can fail over to the "passive" node and the licenses move with them.
So heres the question. Given my two node cluster, each node has 4 CPUs, if I have some of the resources on node 1, and others on node 2, so instances are running on node 1 and node 2, am I on the hook for 8 processor licenses?
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Mar 20, 2007
I've just installed Workgroup Edition for the first time. I have copies on each of two servers, each ordered with five CALs.
My problem is that I don't know how to assign the licenses. I can't find anything in the documentation about it, nothing in the tools menus, and no reference to SQL Server in the Licensing application. The latter really looks like the right place, so if I had to guess, I'd think I've installed something incorrectly. Shouldn't SQL Server appear there as a product?
Of course, I'd also think this would be documented somewhere, but then it's probably one of those things that any idiot would know, so there's no need to explain it.
Once I get past that problem, I'll be setting up eight workstations. I understand from Microsoft Sales that since I've purchased a total of ten CALs, then all eight workstations will be able to access either server. Do I have to do anything special to make that work? Currently, there's no domain. The servers are just members of a workgroup.
Thanks,
Dick
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May 22, 2007
Hi all,
I hope I am on a suitable thread. Sorry if I'm not. I just need to know if I need a license in order to write a commercial application using Visual Studio 2005. And, if so, is this license necessary to me as a developer or to my customer that will purchase the application at the end?
And something more. ASP.NET runs on IIS, which is shipped with Windows Server, correct? So, once my customer purchases Windows, he doesn't anything more in order to run a ASP.NET application (which will finally access the SQL Server DBMS). Is this correct?
Thanks in advance
Lambros
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Apr 19, 2000
I would like to know does it exist a relation between number of licenses (per server) entered when installing SQL Server and the maximum of connections obtained by @@MAX_CONNECTIONS ? how can i get the information about the number of licenses after the installation ? Thanks.
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Apr 19, 2000
I was told that there is no relationship between max_connections and number of licences. So how can i know when the number of user connections exceeds the number of licenses per server (with the error 18458 - the maximum simultaneous user count of %d licenses for this server has been exceeded)? Because I did some tests by openning a number of connections greater than my number of licenses and i didn't get any error.
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Jul 20, 2005
How do you find the number of licenses that are installed on a SQL Server2000?
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Mar 14, 2008
I've purchased and installed SQL Server 2005 along with some licenses and I now have a 'Microsoft Open License Confirmation Letter' in my inbox.
How do I add these licenses to SQL Server and get them active?
How do I check to see how many licenses SQL Server contains?
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Jul 31, 2006
We are
looking for a solution for a client that we will make software for. We are a ISV. After
completion of the software, our client then wants to sell this software to their
partners, people in that business, etc. We do not want to add any additional cost, by means of them(client(s)) purchasing
a server, server software or licensing. Is there any solution
that will make this work? A runtime or embedded database solution? If there is a
license we need to purchase, what would that be? SQL Express Edition work?
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Oct 19, 2007
I have got a licensed copy of MS SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition. I am wondering how I can go about telling how many Processore Liscenses or Client Licenses I have with it. I have just the disk set and product key, no box. Any clues?
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May 4, 2007
we have a sql express - that comes standard with servers.I just wanted to know.....Is there any addition Client access licenses needed for this sql express or not.
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Sep 17, 2007
Hello our organization has never had any problems getting users to connect to our SQL servers but we have grown a lot over the past year or two. Does SQL Server actually block connections if they go over the license limit? I don't have access to the servers to see the model used but I have been asked to look into this. I couldn't find any information on this so I decided to ask you guys. Thanks in advance.
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Dec 5, 2006
Hi,
I need to connect to a SQL server thats running in say abc.trident.com and also sits in a shared environment..
I have couple of questions
1) That SQL server is accessible from my network, yet when I swtich on my enterprise manager I am unable to view that in the list of running SQL servers in the populated list.
Is it because its sitting in a shared environment I am unable to view that?
2) What is the connection striing I should use to connect to the server..When I try to configure a SQL server registrations it normally asks for SQL Server name along with the user authentication
Should I mention fill the Server: field as
abc.trident.com
or
// abc.trident.com/abc.trident.com
to connect to the clustered server.
Can some one tell me the proper connection string if both aforementioned ones are incorrect?
Thanks in Advance
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Aug 18, 2005
I'd like to allow students in a lab to use the Express Manager and T-SQL to create their own databases. I think I've figured out just about everything - but the last step. Here's my thinking on how to do this:
1. Students are power users, not local admin
2. Created a login for the builtinpower users group as follows:
create login [BUILTINPower Users] from windows with default_database=[master]
go
exec master..sp_addsrvrolemember @loginame = N'BUILTINPower Users', @rolename = N'dbcreator'
go
3. Now students can start the Express Manager and connect to:
localhostsqlexpress using Windows Authentication
4. After they do, they can open and run a script creating a database and populating it with tables and records.
5. All good up to here... but when trying to access the new database using VB Express (file based, not a remote connection) access is denied.
The problem is in the NTFS file permissions being assigned to the new database mdf and ldf files. Local administrators and the builtin Network Service accounts have permissions, but the student who created the database gets nothing... So the student is denied access to the mdf and ldf files when trying to make a connection to them using VB Express.
I can go in with a different account having admin privileges are assign privileges to power users for the mdf/ldf files after they're created but this isn't what I need (students need to work whenever they want without waiting for an admin to fix the file permissions).
Maybe I'm going about this all wrong? If I have to I can insist on students always using VS 2005 instead of VB Express and use connections to a remote database (no problems doing this), but I'm still hoping for an express solution.
I'm new to this forum, so apologies if this is a dumb question (but even if it is - can anyone point me in the right direction?)
Thanks
Mike Morrison
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Jan 18, 2008
Hi,
We currently have a SQL 2000 server setup with the data and log files (including those for the system) placed on a SAN. Our current server is old and starting to have problems so we are transitioning to a new server. I just wanted to see if anyone has done this before or if my plan makes sense.
1) Hook the new server into the the SAN Arrays holding the data and log files.
2) Take the old Server off-line, and bring the new one up.
3) Point the Master db to the location of its data and log files.
4) Restart the server.
In theroy, since the master "knows" where all of the other databases are located when the it starts the recovery process it should bring up all of the other databases on that server. Does this make sense or am I missing something?
Thanks in advance for any help!
~Jeff
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