SQL Server 2000 : Log Shipping, Backup Plan
Dec 8, 2006
Hey all-
I am working to establish a backup plan for SQL Server 2000. We are currently doing log shipping between servers.
A full backup once a week
transaction log backup every hour
We run a bulk deletion (delete * from table where date < ninetydays) which deletes 22,000 rows approximately. We are running in Full Recovery mode.
I wonder if there was anyway to improve my backup plan, preferably minimizing logging when the deletion takes place but still backup the data with log shipping.
Let me know if any of you have ideas. Thanks
Nate
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Aug 21, 2007
Hello all,
I would like to be able to backup our databases to a network share mapped drive. Is this possible? When every I go in to setup a maintenance plan it will only allow me to select local drive as the backup location. If my server crashes its not going to do a whole lot of good if my databases are stored locally (I do also backup up to tape every niight). I backup the databases every hour to local disk and would like to send them to one of my MS Storage Servers on the network.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Jason
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Oct 13, 2003
I have had log shipping set up for a month at a remote site. Created another server to failover to here locally that utilizes 512K line. Microsoft has a tab on the maint plan to add another server to the log shipping plan. Shut down all log shipping, moved full backup back here locally and created new database. Used tab to add new server to log shipping server and setup plan using this database. When log shipping starts up for this new server it fails. Error shows it is looking for the first log file that was sent over a month ago. Am I correct in assuming that the only way you can really add another log server is to do it at the same time? If so it's kind of stupid to have the tab to add the server. My log files are pushed over every 5 minutes, and I remove them after 1 week.
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Nov 22, 2002
I have set up two Maintenance Plans to do daily backups overnight for our two DBs that are on our SQL server.
As a separate strategy we want to have a second backup done nightly that would involve
#1 detach the db(s)
#2 copy the mdf(s) and ldf(s) to L:xxx
#3 attach the db(s) again
#4 zip up the db(s)
#5 copy the files to a different server for storage.
I created #1, and #3 in query analyzer and saved the script.
I want the process to run at say 2AM and don't know how to schedule them to run - that is #1 ... #2 ... #3. Anyone have sample scripts for this kind of a backup strategy?
This seems like a very simple process especially for a restore and especially since there would not be any trasaction logs involved. This way if we had a KRASH we could take the backup from the separate server and install it on a warm SQL backup server.
Apart from the new servers name then what other steps would I need to cover to get the apps up and running in the quickest time. The app software runs as a client install - Access 97DB] I'm especially curious if I need to have more than a fresh MS2000 SQL server install.
I'm know I'm asking a lot for a first timer.
It seems we want to handle disaster recovery BEFORE we even have our first system crash.
many thanks
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Jun 24, 2007
I was once told that I was not to use the GUI to setup a maintenance plan. What the person said was that I needed to setup a different plan to do each tab of the GUI instead of going through the tabs and making sure the times do not overlap.
Has anyone ever heard of this or is this an old wise tale told by only one person?
I am using version 8 of SQL on XP machines with 8 connections to that database and need to back up the database, clean it up and everything the GUI has, so teach me the correct ways and tell me why, thanks!
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May 29, 2007
I have a 20 GB SS2005 database that I would like to be replicated to a dev server for testing purposes. I might have some issues with the firewall blocking ports. I haven't read up on the specifics of how log shipping works yet, but I assume that is the best approach. A daily transfer would suffice.
A few options I am considering:
1. use the built in stuff, but I'm not sure it will work with our security settings, and if the trans logs are large it might be strained.
2. writing a small custom app to zip up the log file then ftp them down to the dev server. This could run nightly.
3. some third party util, such as FolderShare could transfer the log files
Any comments or suggestions?
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Feb 13, 2008
I have setup Log shipping between two SQL 2005 servers, and everything seems to be working well. The files are transferring and restoring correctly.
My question is whether I need to add any backup procedures for the secondary server to prevent the secondary server's log file size from growing continuously. Should I be doing a transaction log backup on the secondary server? Or will that break the Log chain?
If it makes a difference, the secondary server is in Standby mode after applying the logs.
Any advice would be appreciated,
~ Michelle
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Dec 16, 2005
My question is two fold. First, What is the best method for mirroring to a fail-over server? Replication has limits on tables that do not have key fields, and I am finding that Log Shipping is harder to work with.
I have set it up several times, and conducted tests with test databases, but when it fails, I get no indication as to why, and I also can find no way to re-initiate it (without deleting the maintenance plan and starting over). Which leads to my second question, is there a way to manually initiate a log shipping plan already defined?
Thanks in advance!
Rollin
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Aug 21, 2006
I am using SQL server 7.0. After restoring all the databses (Exceptdistribution) Everything seems to be working fine except the backupmaintenance plan. I put following detail in the maintenance plan"General Tab:Plan Name --- DB Maintenance Plan1() All DatabasesOptimizations tab:Reorganize Data and Index PageChange free space per page percentage to 10%Remove unused space from database filesShrink Database when it grows beyond 50 MBAmount of free space to remain after shrink 10% of the data spaceSchedule: Occurs every 1 week(s) on Thursday, at 1:30:00 PM.Integrity tab:Chack database integrityInclude indexes.Attempt to repair any minor problemSchedule : Occurs every 1 week(s) on Thursday, at 1:00:00 PM.Complete Backup tab:Backup the database as part of the maintenance planVerify the integrity of the backup upon completionDisk use this directory: d:SQL BackupsBackup file extension: BAKSchedule: Occurs every 1 day(s), at 2:10:00 PM.Transaction Log Backup tab:schedule: Occurs every 1 day(s), at 2:00:00 PM.Reporting tab:Write report a text file in Directory: D:SQL BackupsLOG "Problem:My databases(mroduction as well as systems) sre not at all gettingbacked up according to above plan.Error Message in the Log Directory:"Microsoft (R) SQLMaint Utility (Unicode), Version [Microsoft SQL-DMO(ODBC SQLState: 42000)] Error 4062: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL ServerDriver][SQL Server]Cannot open user default database '<ID>'. Usingmaster database instead."In the SQL server registration properties the login through whichgetting logged into the EM for that, default database is "my productiondatabase".Is this problem because of the distribution db which I am not able torestore.Please helpDeepak Sinha
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Mar 7, 2002
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Robbie at 3/7/2002 10:13:00 AM
Great news but how??
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mmwops at 3/7/2002 9:09:32 AM
can be done
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Robbie at 3/7/2002 7:03:16 AM
Does anyone know if Log Shipping be done using SQL Server 2000 standard edition or does this have to be Enterprise??
Many Thanks
Robbie
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May 28, 2008
Hi,
I have maintanance plan for log shipping.it was working fine for last 2 months.But due to some reason I have to restart the server and after that my log shipping job was failed.When I start the job it is showing error "Executed as user: OKS-MARAdministrator. Invalid drive specification 0 File(s) copied. Process Exit Code 4. The step failed".This error is coming when I copy the bakup database file to another server.I have checked all the mapping and sharing option.Also I have nt changed anything in the two servers.But still then the error is coming.
Can you please help me out to shot out the problem?
Thanks in advance.
Sunanda
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Sep 19, 2007
hi,
i have log shipping between 2 servers on sql server 2000. the log shipping failed because of some problem with transaction log backup files. somehow the files are missing and it is not able to apply transaction log. can someone please tell me how can i restore the log shipping between 2 servers. please help asap..need to fix it in couple hours
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Mar 11, 2008
Hello, everyone:
I just heard that for restore purpose, ths full backup and transaction log backup should be from one maintenance plan. Otherwise transaction log backup files cannot be restored after restoring full backup files.
Is it true? Can anyone offer official documents?
In my system, full and transaction backups are from one maintenance plan. Restores are doing fine. I am not sure that ideal is true or not.
Thanks
ZYT
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Dec 28, 2007
Windows 2003 backup utility uses the shadow copy option that allows it to copy open files.
Therefore, can I use this utility to backup the .mdf and .ldf files for my SQL 2000 database?
I can then attach the .mdf files if I need to restore the database to another server.
Can anyone tell me if this is safe? I've tried it and it worked but I'm worried there maybe some lurking danger in using this approach.
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Dec 22, 2005
I work for a small state government department. We are about to install SQL Server 2005.
A national government department that runs on SQL Server 2000 are willing to give us a backup of their database (20 gig I think) and then log ship to us regulary. Our aim is to have a copy of the database that we can query from and that is only a day or so out-of-date.
I'm having no luck.
1. I can backup the SQL Server 2000 database.
2. I can restore the SQL Server 2000 database onto the SQL Server 2005 box no worries.
2. BUT, if I attempt to restore the 2000 database with the option 'Leave the database in read-only mode ...' selected (so that I can then restore transaction logs and it's read-only), then I get an error message. ""This backup cannot be restored using WITH STANDBY because a database upgrade is needed. Reissue the RESTORE without WITH STANDBY.". I'm doing all this using SQL Server Management Studio.
It appears we will have to use SQL Server 2000 rather than 2005 to get this working.
Q: Has anyone successfully done this from SQL 2000 to SQL 2005 please? If so, how was it achieved please?
Thanks.
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Sep 27, 2006
I currently work for a company that has had a "family business" mentality for many years. The only trouble is, it has grown into a fairly large company over the years and that mentality just doesn't cut it anymore (We have around 200 employees in 2 offices, and 25-50 remote users).
I have recently taken over the role of System Administrator, and I'm having a lot of trouble trying to get everything under wraps. There are a LOT of un-documented things happening with our database/web server, and in order to keep things safe & secure, I need to try & flesh out what those mystery settings would be. I feel that NOW is the time to get some solid documentation down, to protect my ass before some critical failure happens.
I'm wading into unknown waters here, and I'm hoping that somebody who's "been there" might have some tips to make my life a little easier.
I have an IBM Bladecenter, and a spare blade with which I can use to re-produce as close to a mirror copy of our system as possible. I have installed windows 2003 /w SQL2000 and restored a full backup of our databases and imported all database user accounts, and logins. What about Maintenance Jobs? Error Logs? Patches/Hotfixes? Service accounts? Membership roles? System databases? ODBC Sources? Services? Startup Scripts? I'm sure the list could go on & on... What are some of the crucial details I should look into?
Has anybody been in this boat before having little knowledge of what was built before you arrived, and have any insight on how to get through this without too much headache?
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Nov 29, 2001
I want to know how people are backup up their win2k system and SQL 2000 server. If you want a run backup once a night and first backup win2k file system and then run backup using sql agent will that work?
Thanks.
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Dec 18, 2007
I am in the process of migrating from Sql Server 2000 to 2005. Part of my plan is to move some database's to 2005, but use the 2000 compatibility mode for the short term. My issue is this, our DR boxes are still on SQL Server 2000, would I still be able to use our log shipping processes? Or would I be better off in starting with migrating the DR boxes to 2005 first?
Thanks in advance.
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Dec 5, 2007
Hi all,
We have log shipping set up for some our databases.
So, my question is, Can i take a FULL BACKUP of databases which are involved in log shiping at primary.
--> Please give your comments on this.
Thanks.
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Apr 9, 2008
Hello,
I have an SQL 2005 maintenance plan that backups up the t-logs of my production db every 15 minutes. I want to begin log shipping over to a warm-standby secondary server. The network share, log shipping folder is not the same folder location as my maintenance plan folder. My question is, do I need to disable the maintenance plan for tlog backups in order for log shipping to be sucessful? Or will the dual backups to seperate backup folder locations cause a failure in the secondary server restore process?
I suspect the latter but wanted a second opinion.
Thanks.
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May 29, 2008
Does anyone know if you can delete the initial backup file created (xxx_init.bak) on the secondary server after setting up Log Shipping?
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Jan 17, 2008
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to configure log shipping on a 2005 sql server. I follow the wizard's instructions (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190640.aspx) and everything looks right except for the backup job that somehow is not being created on the primary server. Secondary server contains copy, restore and alert jobs.
No errors reported on job monitor.
Any ideas?
Regards,
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Jul 14, 2007
Hi!
i have a question regarding tail log backup.
I have set up logshipping between primary and secondary servers. Now when i want to fail-over to secondary, I am planning to take the tail log backup on primary
backup log primarydb
to disk=N'..',
with norecovery
and then I will restore this tail log backup to secondary
restore log secondarydb
from disk=N'',
with recovery
Will there be any issue with this approach?
Will I be able to recovery the primarydb if i want to, in future? Taking tail log backup doesnt cause any issues? Or do i need to take the full backup of primary before I take tail log backup..in case if I can not recover the primary db after taking the log backup?
How big the tail log backup can be? Will it be of similar size of other normal transactional log backups.?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Aug 13, 2006
I am having a hard time setting up a backup plan for my sql server databases. Right now I create a copy of each database on another machine on the network once a day. Once a week I upload a MSAccess version to a remote site. Obviously there are huge amounts of potential data loss if a crash of some sort would occur locally.
My new plan is looking like this:
1) Run a complete database backup once a day
2) Run Transaction Log backups every hour
My questions are as follows:
1) What role does a "Backup Device" play in this process (I currently do everything through the Enterprise Manager interface)?
2) I am having a hard time scheduling mydatabase_complete.bak and mydatabase_trans.TRN at all. I get several errors.
3) I would like to run these backups on another network machine but am not seeing how to access "My Network Places" from the "Backup Database" utility in Enterprise Manager.
Any help in the form of answers or pointing me towards a useful resource for this process would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance~
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Feb 7, 2004
Hi all,
I am new to SQL and was given a SQL server to administer. There are lots of databases on the server and no one seems to know which one is used and which one is not. I try to do some cleanning.
1. Can I find out if there is any activity on a database so I can delete them off and how?
2. There are backup jobs that run every night which do a full backup. I am thinking of changing it to do full backup once a week and differential every night. These databases are updated daily. Some have lots of activities, some have less. Does that sound reasonable? and if I do differential backup, should I create separate back up file or should I add on to the full backup file?
Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Jan 6, 2008
I would like to implement the following backup strategy in SQL Server 2000:
full backup is done once a week
diff backup daily
tran backup every hour
How should I approach this. Should I use a backup device linked to a hard disk file? Should I create a backup device for each type of backup (full, diff, tran) and schedule it. If I use a backup device how do I distinguish each backup for old backups.
thanks
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Dec 19, 2007
We have a critical Production database on which we want to setup Log-Shipping. We have also purchased the Symantec NetBackup utility for taking Backup to Tape Drives.
We Know that there are some inherent problems with using Log-Shipping and a Backup Strategy together, and thus we were finding out various ways in which we can run both in tandem.
One of them was taking the Symantec Log backups with Copy-Only option.
The main problem with this is that the Symantec Backups becomes dependent on the Log-Shipping Backups and also most of their Log-Backups become useless. Also, we are not sure whether the utility allows Copy-Only backups
The second alternative was to disable the Backup job of Log-Shipping on the Primary Server and to use the Log-Backups done by the Symantec utility for performing the Restores on the Secondary.
Thus, if Log-Shipping is scheduled to run say every 4 hrs, and the Symantec Log-backup happens every 1 hour, then at an interval of every 4 hrs, the Restore Job on the secondary will pick up the 4 backups done by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore each one of them in sequential manner.
But, I guess it is not easy to have a manual Restore Policy in place.
I was really banking on this solution until I found that the Restore Job of the Log-Shipping setup is dependent on the Filename of the Transaction log file which the systems generates automatically, and it won€™t be easy to create a customized Restore Job on the secondary server which takes in all the Log Backups generated by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore the Secondary database.
Have any one of you ever face this issue? Would like to know what is the best way to keep both of them running together.
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Feb 1, 2008
Hi
Im planning to setup sqlserver 2005 log shipping between two servers.The size of the database is around 50GB and we are taking transaction log backup and shipping at 30mins interval.
Suppose if the backup job couldnt take the transaction log backup with in the specified interval ie 30mins,then how does the copy and restore job works. Will it give an error saying tht the transaction log could nt be copied and restored ???
How to deal with this kind of situations where the backup is taking more time than the threshold time limit and ur copy,restore fails. Is there a way to handle this kind of situation in logshipping Sqlserver 2005.
and how does it affect the Secondary database. ??
Please help me out !!
Thnkx in advance
Regards
Arvind L
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May 14, 2007
Suppose I have a 3rd party SQL backup software to backup my databases, can I also setup a stand-by server for log shipping?
I'm not sure if this is possible? If not, is SQL mirroring a choice instead of log shipping?
Thanks a lot!
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Jan 24, 2002
Are there any known issues using Maintenance Plans to backup DBs in SQL Server 7.0
Thanks
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Apr 17, 2000
I made a backup maintenace plan in sql7.0, but it doesn´t work. The message included on the event logger is:
SQLServerAgent
SQL Server Scheduled Job
'DB Backup Job for DB Maintenance Plan 'Teste''
(0x219C5CB03C11D4119D8F0020188D7311) -
Status: Failed - Invoked on: 4/17/00 3:25:00 PM - Message:
The job failed. The Job was invoked by Schedule 12 (Schedule 1).
The last step to run was step 1 (Step 1).
And before this message there is another one that can be making something goes wrong:
SQLServerProfiler
Executable: C:WINNTsystem32mmc.exe
Description: Unable_To_Set_RegKey_Val
Source: ........srceventlog.c
Line: 315
Someone can help me telling me the reason that is generating this kind of error and doesn´t work. I have do the same think in others two server and there it works ok.
Thanks in regards
Sandra Lino
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Feb 23, 2000
I am doing full backups on 25 databases nightly using the SQL maintenance plan. Recently I have started getting the backup process hung on one database, so the whole plan does not finish. The job shows as executing, but nothing is being done, and nothing has been written to disk for this database. The SQL logs show a DBCC TRACEON 208, but the process it refers to is using another database. The NT logs do not show anything going on either. Additionally the backup process will not die when it is killed. They only way to make it go away is to stop and start the SQL Server. The system is a quad Pentium 450, 2Gig of ram, and plenty of disk space. It is NT SP5, SQL7 SP1. The DB is about 8.2 Gig. There are no other jobs scheduled to run at the time the backups run. Does anyone have any ideas what would be causeing the process to hang? Also what is a trace flag 208, it is not listed in BOL. Thanks for your help.
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Feb 7, 2003
I have a maintenance plan that I use to backup some of my databases and transaction logs. I have "Check Database Integrity" checked. If the database is being used by anyone when the backups are being performed, the check issues an error because the DB cannot be put into single user mode and then skips the backup. In the Plan, I have unchecked the box for "Perform these checks before backing up the database or transaction file" and apply the change. When I go back into the plan, the option is checked again. How can I get around this problem?
Thanks,
Ken
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