SQL Server 2005 Clustering/Replication/Mirroring
Sep 28, 2007
I am developing an enterprise class solution using SQL Server 2005 and MS .NET v2 and am tying determine if SQL Server 2005 (which edition and if so how) would be adequate for my proposed solution. Any feedback, tips, comments would be greatly appreciated.
As a background the solution I am developing will be web services based and used by multiple offices around the globe by over 500 users. I have already developed a prototype using a single SQL Server 2005 instance but as this solution is going to be used by offices around the world I want to have an IIS Server and SQL Server 2005 server instance in each office with "links" back to the primary SQL Server 2005 cluster in Australia.
One of my thoughts was to set up replication between the offices that would happen at midnight remote office local time and then set up triggers to update the primary cluster when assoociated data was changed on the remote sites or on the primary cluster. Does anyone know or can anyone suggest alternatives to this strategy?
I effectively need some sort of inter site caching functionality with store and foreward capabilities ...
Thanks
Andrew
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Aug 8, 2006
Up to now we have gotten by without having any local DR copies of servers (if a sql server goes down we are usually able to get it back in less than 3 hours). But I want more now. I want to trim the "down" window to no more than 5 or 10 minutes. (Immedate failover would be nice but is not an essential requirement. The essential requirement is to loose no data!)
I have a spec of knowledge in these areas:
SQL 2005 Clustering (requires approved hardware, quorum disk, etc. involved)
SQL 2005 Replicaiton
SQL 2005 Log Shipping.
SQL 2005 Database mirroring. ( needs three servers)
Which approach do you think is the most straightforward, sparing of hardware, yet reliable way to get us back up and running after a sql server failure.
TIA,
barkingdog
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Dec 21, 2007
Guys, I really need a help . I have one database (1TB) on two servers in different location( About 1200 miles distance). SO which options will be good:
Clustering or Database Mirroring
I am totally confused . As i read from SQl-server- performance , Clustering doesn't protect data. It is server level.
Can any expert throw a light on me?
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Sep 11, 2006
Hi
I know there was a previous thread on setting up DB Mirroring and Clustering where DB Mirroring would failover first because its faster than clustering. But is there a way to set up servers to allow clustering to failover first and then use DB Mirroring failover if the cluster node fails.
thanks
P
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Nov 8, 2007
clustering sounds expensive and arcane. Is it ever a better choice than mirroring for high availability? Perhaps when the size of the db copy is too prohibitive under the mirroring option?
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Jun 14, 2007
Hello.
I am confuse and cant decide on how to setup high availability on our SQL 2005. Here's what on my mind and on resources list:
I plan to have mirroring on my SQL1 to SQL2 with the help of SQL3 as witness. So this would be automatic failover. My idea on mirroring is when SQL1 goes down, SQL3 would tell SQL2 to run and be the primary. It will automatically failover to SQL2. Right? My questions are:
1) How can I revert back to SQL1 once it is ready?
2) I read in one of the post that it is impossible to write in a mirrored DB, is this true? I mean, what's the use of failing over to the next node when it's not possible to write and update data/records?
3) If number 2 is false (i hope so), how would the data be synchronize from SQL2 back to SQL1. Those transaction that were made while SQL1 is down.
4) How about the connection string from the web applications? Would it be automatically point to SQL2? We have load balancing setup in place, would this help web application connection to automatically point to SQL2?
Another setup:
We have SAN in place (not yet used, but is planning to use for this SQL thing), EMC to be specific. My question would be:
1) For SAN setup, the data storage would be centralize. So would that mean that SQL1 and SQL2 services will use the same data and log file from the SAN storage?
2) How would you call this setup then? Can this be clustering type of high availability? Will clustering work under load balancing setup? I believe mirroring is not possible here? Right?
3) How can I setup my 3 SQL servers with the same theory in mind: when SQL1 goes down, SQL2 will take over. Data will be synchronize when SQL1 is up and running again. With automatic failover and reverting back to primary.
I read so much topics about this, but the more I research, the more I get confuse.
Any suggestions, comments, advice is greatly appreciated!
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Sep 24, 2015
I'm looking at a setup where they have server1 and server2 in a mirroring relationship with automatic failover.
Server1 is the principalThey are using transactional replication to replicate asingle databse to server3 is AWS.Distribution database is on Server1All Agents (log reader, snapshot, distributor) run on Server1Server2 has not been set up for replication...My understanding is that in this set up you would normallly place the distribution database on a separate server and enable publication on the mirror, Server2.
What happens if they failover? Replication would stop, and presumably records added while the mirror is the active database would not be marked for replication?How would they recover? Failback and reinintialize
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Aug 24, 2006
Hi,
Would anyone give me some directions on where I could get good information on Windows 2003 and SQL 2005 clustering??
Thanks in advance.
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Aug 6, 2007
Hi,
Please tell me that,
What is Clustering in SQL SERVER 2005 Database?
What is the main reason of Clustering in SQL SERVER 2005 Database?
What are the advantages of Clustering in SQL SERVER 2005 Database?
How can I implement Clustering in SQL SERVER 2005 Database?
waiting for your reply with thanks
T C
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Jun 9, 2008
Friends -
I am going to install sql server 2005 clustering on windows 2003 o/s.
i am using active/passive clustering.
On node : 1 i created a shared disk, quorum, volume1, volume 2 under disk management.
my doubt is do i need to do the same thing again on node :2 like (create shared disk, quorum, volume1, volume 2 same as node:1
Please advise on this.
Cheers:)
vsh
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Jul 11, 2006
Hi,
Pl clarify how to use SQL server 2005 clustering Algorythm , I want to use the case and nested table concept. Pl let me know what is key column , Input and product with an example
I have table in the following structure
Cust_id
Age
Product
Location
Income
the above mentioned columns are in my tableand i want to perdict which product is mostly likely to sold with other based on age , location and income
Pl clarify and mail me on rajesh.ladda@lntinfotech.com
Thanks in advance
Rajesh Ladda
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Jan 18, 2007
I am getting ready to have a SQL Server failover cluster setup. I have used SQL 2000 for years, mostly for DTS and related database activities, but NOT in a cluster. I have used SQL 2005 for about one year but not intensively, and NOT in a cluster.
We need to set up a cluster. We are setting up a DELL EMC solution. I am going to hire a consultant to set it up, including the SQL part. My questions are should I use SQL 2000 or 2005? (I don't know if one is better than the other for clustering. Both are supported by our vendor for the application we are running.) How hard is it to maintain a cluster if one hasn't had experience in that area before? How should I prepare?
Any opinions or experiences that you would like to share would be helpful.
Thank you.
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Jan 10, 2007
Hi,
We have SQL 2005 2 node active-active clustering with 2 instances on each node.(total 4 instances).
Is it possible to apply Service packs to just 1 instance or does it impact all 4 instances on both nodes ?
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Oct 24, 2007
Hello all,
I have tried to install SQL Server 2005 Standard edition with CLUSTERING. I faced a problem and everything rolls back.
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Setup
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SQL Server Setup was unable add user domain1xyz to local group domain1IT Security Admin-Group.
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkID=20476&ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=9.00.1399.06&EvtSrc=setup.rll&EvtID=29512&EvtType=sqlca%5csqlsecurityca.cpp%40Do_sqlGroupMember%40Do_sqlGroupMember%40x6ba
I have refered to PostI=1659185 posted by Fly and it still won't be able to fix my problem.
I have added LOCAL SERVICE into the local group (SQLServer2005MSFTEUser$AAA$MSSQLSERVER), but it still can't work.
Please can someone help me on this. Thank a lot....
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Nov 2, 2006
We want to use sql 2005 failover clustering feature, so that upgrade sql 2000 is necessary. But some of the stored procedures built in 2000 are not working directly in 2005, set the compatibility level to 80 could make them work. In this case, can somebody here tell me if down grade the database level will affect failover clustering running properly? e.g. will data still be synchronized properly? Thanks in advance.
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Jul 20, 2007
I am working on a proof of concept to take to our Technical Board.
This POC is concearned with SQL server 2005 Mirroring for High Availability and Failover in a Highly Critical business sector.
The problem is that we use custom web pages to give the Operations Center an overview of the status of the system and that there are so many metrics available (not may are well documented). I have looked at the following
sys.database_mirroring_witnesses
is_suspended to show the state of the Sync
database_name to return the name of the mirrored database
safety_level_desc to show that the Safety level is at Full
Principal_server_name to show the name of the Principal server
Mirror_server_name to Show the Name of the Mirror Server.
I am at a loss as to what is the best approach as I do not want to display too much Information and confuse.
The Servers are locked down to remove any permissions not required so I have to create a SQL account with only acces to the required sys views. one issue is that the following SQL only works on the Principal
Code SnippetSelect * from sys.database_mirroring where mirroring_guid is not null
The Principal returns
Code Snippet
7 267CF8D3-8066-44EA-84BD-B7EA25C3F779 4 SYNCHRONIZED 2 MIRROR 20 2 FULL 1 TCP://DNGLHRSQL051.XX.XX.XXX:5022 DNGLHRSQL051 TCP://LHRSQL029.XX.XXX.XXX:5023 1 CONNECTED 40000000010300001 10 NULL UNLIMITED
where the Mirror will return nothing..
The configuration of the User is identical on both Principal and Mirror and is as follows
Master Public
MSDB Public, dbm_monitor
I have read that the User also requires "view any Database" but on the Mirror this database is not available on the Mirror as it is in Sync.
Is this an undocumented Feature?
Any help greatly appreciated
Regards
Andy
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Aug 16, 2006
I am trying to set up a SQL mirroring senario - I have some questions
Do I need to purchase an extra SQL Server license for the SQL server instance on the Mirror? what about the Witness does that also need a separate license/
Can the witness be a virtual server on the Mirror box itself? Do I still require a license if the witness is on a virtual server?
Thanks
jawahar
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Mar 16, 2007
Hi, im trying to mirror a database with SQL server 2005. I have completed all the setup for this, including attacthing a copy of the principal database and all the other settings. When I completed the Mirroring wizard, it prompted me to start mirroring and when I accepted, it gave to me the following error:
TITLE: Database Properties
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An error occurred while starting mirroring.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Alter failed for Database 'CTM'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=9.00.3042.00&EvtSrc=Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.Smo.ExceptionTemplates.FailedOperationExceptionText&EvtID=Alter+Database&LinkId=20476
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An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
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The server network address "TCP://DBNAME.domain1.local:5022" can not be reached or does not exist. Check the network address name and that the ports for the local and remote endpoints are operational. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 1418)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=09.00.3042&EvtSrc=MSSQLServer&EvtID=1418&LinkId=20476
Can anyone help me withthe problem.
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May 10, 2006
Hi....
I have sql server 2005 evaluation edition. And This version doesn't provides Mirroring option.Even after installation of service Pack1. Is there any other edition (Freeware or Evaluation) which provides the Database Mirroring.
waiting for the prompt reply.
Thanks
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Mar 8, 2007
Hello, My question is simply: according to BOL, a DB snapshot taken from a Mirror is read-only. Say I wanted a temporary (disposable) read-write DB created from the snapshot. Is there a way to generate a writable temp DB (that's not tempdb) from the snapshot? Thanks,AK
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Sep 27, 2006
Hi All,
I get a general question about the feacture "Database Mirroring". Is it support by SQL Server Standard. Edition without SP1?? Of i still need to upgrade the server from SQL Server 2005 to SQL Server 2005 with SP1?
Another question: are there any problem if the one machine(server) has installed SQL server 2005 Standard edition and the other with "Developer Editon".
I hope some one can answer my question. Thanks anyway!
Regards,
Pat
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Mar 27, 2008
Hi,
we have setup synchronous mirroring with witness server.We ran into problem when we stoped the SQLService of Primary Server. Failover Occured and Witness Server made Mirror Server Primary.
The User assosciated with the Database become Orphaned and no one is able to connect to the Database .
We recove login failed error for all login for mirrored database.
We have to manually run the below comand and reset the password for each login.
1.To Detect Orphaned Users
sp_change_users_login @Action='Report';
2.To Resolve an Orphaned User
sp_change_users_login @Action='update_one', @UserNamePattern='<database_user>', @LoginName='<login_name>';
GO
Please let me know why sql server mirroring show such strange behavior. If we manually failove every thing work fine.
Regards
Sufian
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Oct 2, 2007
We have a sql server 2000 sp3 server on a win2k3 server standardedition. This is on dell hardware with a dell scsi dasd enclosuredirectly attached. We want to duplicate the hardware and replicate ormirror the database to the backup server and do a manual or automaticfailover in case of outage(more than likely manual). Wondering rightnow if replication - with say software like doubletake - is preferredover sql database mirroring or vice versa. Thanks
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May 22, 2007
I am setting up transactional replication on a database A with read only subscriber database B (for reporting purpose). I have also setup mirror on database A. I tried to manually failover to mirror...mirroring works fine but transactional replication is interrupted.
I have followed the steps as in article
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms151799.aspx
I have also used PublisherFailoverPartner parameter...but replication still complains that it cannot connect to publishing database.
Any ideas or direction is greatly appreciated.
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Nov 24, 2006
Hi MSSQL friend,
We have a SQL2005 server which contains some replicated databases. We use merge replication and the publications are all local.
In order to make the server failsafe we need some kind of mirroring. Is this possible with replication?
Any ideas how to accomplish a failsafe scenario with replication?
Sincerely Edward
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Aug 28, 2007
Does anyone have an opinion on which is more efficient?
Currently have a cluster setup and I'd like to setup mirroring or transactional replication on top of that to replicate/mirror the data to an offsite building that is still on the local LAN as a DR solution to a SAN failure.
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Jan 14, 2007
I'm using replication and want to mirror my publisher to get high availability. As I understand the documentation the principal and the mirror must both use the same distributor instance. So if the distributor fails the replication fails. This seem like a big weakness. Maybe I'm missing some thing. Is there a way to set it up so that replication continues if a distributor fails -- some mechanism that will switch in a "back-up" distributor? I'm looking for a configuration that will continue to run in the event of any single failure. This means that both the publisher and the distributor must be covered by mechanisms that keeps them going in the event of a failure. Mirroring covers the failure of the publisher but I don't see a mechanism that will conver the failure of the distributor.
My application is developed in .net / c#. Data is accessed through .net sql server data provider etc.
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May 3, 2008
Server A = primary SQL DBs (mirroring origination)
Server B = failover SQL DBs (mirroring destination)
For database mirroring a witness is required.
Can the witness live in another instance of SQL on server B?
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May 30, 2006
I am trying to enable database mirroring for 100 database.
It goes error free till 59 databases (some times 60 databases) with the
status (principal, synchronized) on principal. on the 60th or 61st database
it gave the status (principal, disconnected). Also mirror starts acting
abnormal. connection to mirror starts to give connection timeout and it is
not enabling database mirroring on any more databases. I have SQL SERVER
2005 Enterprise with SP1 on the servers. witness is not included yet.
this are my test servers... i have more than 500 databases on my production
servers.
principal and mirror both are using port 5022 for ENDPOINT communication.
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Jul 17, 2007
Dear All,
I have a download "SQL Server 2005 Evalution Copy". I installed it to 3 machine, 1 - XP Professional (Witness) and 2 - Windows Server 2000 (Principle and Mirror) . And I want to try Database mirroring.
However, after restore the Log into mirror server I try to execute the following statement in Principle Server:
ALTER DATABASE TestDB
SET PARTNER=N'TCP://[10.0.200.2]:5022'
GO
The above 10.0.200.2 is the mirror server IP address.
it show error message as:
Msg 1416, Level 16, State 31, Line 1
Database "SCMPGroup" is not configured for database mirroring.
In Miorror Server
I execute the statement :
ALTER DATABASE TestDB
SET PARTNER=N'TCP://[10.0.200.1]:5022'
The above 10.0.200.1 is the principle server IP address.
It shows sucess
ALTER DATABASE TestDB
SET WITNESS=N'TCP://[10.0.15.146]:5022'
it show error message as:
Msg 1416, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Database "SCMPGroup" is not configured for database mirroring.
Please help me! I down't know if NT4 domain or evalution copy problem in there.
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Jun 1, 2006
I am trying to enable database mirroring for 100 database.
It goes error free till 59 databases (some times 60 databases) with the
status (principal, synchronized) on principal. on the 60th or 61st database
it gave the status (principal, disconnected). Also mirror starts acting
abnormal. connection to mirror starts to give connection timeout and it is
not enabling database mirroring on any more databases. I have SQL SERVER
2005 Enterprise with SP1 on the servers. witness is not included yet.
these are my test servers... i have more than 500 databases on my production
servers.
principal and mirror both are using port 5022 for ENDPOINT communication.
All of the databases are critical and all must be included in the Database Mirroring.
so, after that I tried to implement database mirroring again......
System has 3 GB of RAM, SQL SERVER (Mirror) using 85 MB of RAM but still
giving this error while trying to enable database mirroring for 37th
Database.....
"There is insufficient system Memory to run this query"
WHY?
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Jan 3, 2007
I tried to set up mirroring on my laptop.
I have got two instances of SQL Server 2005 SP2 on my laptop (the first one is the default instance).
Checked configuration running the following scripts
SELECT type_desc, port FROM sys.tcp_endpoints;
GO
SELECT state_desc FROM sys.database_mirroring_endpoints
go
SELECT role FROM sys.database_mirroring_endpoints;
GO
SELECT 'Metadata Check';
SELECT EP.name, SP.STATE,
CONVERT(nvarchar(38), suser_name(SP.grantor_principal_id))
AS GRANTOR,
SP.TYPE AS PERMISSION,
CONVERT(nvarchar(46),suser_name(SP.grantee_principal_id))
AS GRANTEE
FROM sys.server_permissions SP , sys.endpoints EP
WHERE SP.major_id = EP.endpoint_id
ORDER BY Permission,grantor, grantee;
GO
Everything is OK on both instances. Tried to start mirroring and I have got this error message:
TITLE: Database Properties
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An error occurred while starting mirroring.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Alter failed for Database 'Northwind'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
The server network address "TCP://kookaburra.sydney.ssw.com.au:5022" can not be reached or does not exist. Check the network address name and that the ports for the local and remote endpoints are operational. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 1418)
I could connect to both instances:
C:Documents and SettingsSergeiTchernykh.SSW2000>sqlcmd -U sa -P <password> -S k
ookaburra,5022
1> exit
C:Documents and SettingsSergeiTchernykh.SSW2000>sqlcmd -U sa -P <password> -S k
ookaburrasydney2005,5023
1> exit
I could ping my laptop
C:Documents and SettingsSergeiTchernykh.SSW2000>ping -a kookaburra
Pinging kookaburra.sydney.ssw.com.au [10.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 10.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 10.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Ping statistics for 10.0.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
Thank you.
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Jan 16, 2007
HI,
Does SQL server 2005 Express Edition or
Does SQL server 2005 Express Edition Sp1 supports Data base Mirroring?
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