SQL Server 2005 Log Shipping And 3rd Party Tape Backups
May 27, 2008
Hello,
I would like to know if anyone has a recommended method for having backups to tape while running log shipping. For example, is it possible to copy the transaction log backups used for log shipping to tape and apply them to a Full Database Restore from a 3rd Party Backup tool such as Veritas?
My goal is to be able to do a point-in-time restore from tape and still be able to use SQL Server 2005 Log Shipping.
Thanks,
Erik
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Dec 4, 2007
Afternoon,
I have a few Log Shipped DBs that are working great.
Currently they are set to fire off every 15 minutes 24/7.
My question is this ... I need to get FULL backups of the source DBs in order to restore them on certain Dev boxes.
If I were to execute the full backup on one of these Log Shipped DBs ... how would it affect the log shipping process?
Is there a special method to accomplish this?
As a side note, what would be some concerns/issues if in being able to create the FULL backups and not interupt log shipping, I were to create the backup using a 3rd party tool like Quest LiteSpeed?
I sure wish we were on Enterprise, then I could create a mirror and then snapshot off it to create my backups BUT ... that is not the case as we stand today.
Thanks
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My tape backups have started failing, due to time out errors.
I noticed that if I try restore headeronly from the tape drive I also receive a backup error.
I'm thinking that it could be the tape drive HP DAT 72 but thought I'd ask if anyone had any other suggestions.
This is the command I'm running: RESTORE HEADERONLY FROM TAPE = '\.Tape0' WITH NOUNLOAD
I am greeted with this result:
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Msg 4027, Level 16, State 1, Line 4
Mount tape for RESTORE HEADERONLY of database '' on tape drive '\.Tape0'.
Msg 3229, Level 16, State 1, Line 4
Request for device '\.Tape0' timed out.
Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 4
RESTORE HEADERONLY is terminating abnormally.
**************************************
It doesn't happen all the time, but roughly half the time the backups fail.
If I go to the Computer Manager then Storage--> Libraries --> Hewlett Packard DAT 72 (my tape drive) it shows the Red X over the drive.
It lists it as an off-line library.
Any thoughts on this?
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I have some questions on backups and log shipping.
Before I get to them, though, the goal:
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Back up its transaction log hourly.
Maintain a warm backup DB server using log shipping.
Here is what I have done so far, which has led to my questions:
I have stopped using maintenance plans for backups, feeling that
then the process would be less 'black boxy'
I first created two jobs to perform the daily db and hourly tlog backups
that saved the backups in files using the naming formats
<name>_db_<yymmdd>.bak and <name>_tlog_<yymmddnnss>.bak.
Issue 1: doing backups this way means that it's a little difficult for the
log shipping jobs to figure out the filenames (esp. the tlog ones), if log
shipping is going to use the files generated by the backup jobs.
Issue 2: I thought maybe I'd have log shipping generate its OWN backup
files, but would that cause problems with the transaction log? Say the
normal tlog backup fires, then fifteen minutes later the shipping tlog
backup fires. Would the shipping tlog backup file be missing the transactions
that were backed up during the normal log backup?
Issue 3: To try to help with the naming issue, I tried switching the backups from
creating new files each time to file devices whose names would be constant.
This worked, but since my database is about 5GB in size, that meant
that, with expiring backups after 7 days, the database backup device
would settle in at about 25GB (I skip weekends) and I'd have to copy
or cab-copy-uncab that file over to my warm server every day. That
seemed a little inefficient. Does anybody have alternative ideas?
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Where does SQL Server keep the information on the backups that exist?
Whether I was using individual files or file devices, I was able to go to
Database-All Tasks-Restore Database... in Enterprise Manager and it
would show me the backups that existed. I imagine these must be
stored in a system table somewhere, but I did not see any obvious place
to look (no 'sysbackups' table, etc.).
Many thanks in advance for your input!
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