SQL Server 2005 - Transactions

Jan 24, 2007

Hello guys!

I am working with SQL Server 2005 a few months, and i need your help about transactions topic.

In first, i hope you are patient with my english, i will try to explain it the best i can ;-)) and now... my question and thanks you in advance.

I am trying to set the transaction option of a foreach loop container task in run time using the Expressions option. There, I have configured the transaction option of this task with a variable value (var type int) and this variable is informed at the beginning of my dts using a script task (values: 0 for Not Supported, 1 for Supported, 2 for Required).

The problem is the transaction option gets the variable value but... the variable value by default. After, during the dts execution, the variable gets the new value but not the transaction option.

In summary, my question is ... is it possible to set the transaction option during the run time?.

Thanks for your help!

Chris.

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Code Block
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