SQL Server Express Edition Vs MSDE
Dec 15, 2005
I have heard that machines running applications with embedded MSDE
frequently experience conflicts between the MSDE apps and other
applications such as BackupExec. What can anyone tell me about this?
And if this is true, does/will the new SQL Server Express Edition
behave better?
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Nov 7, 2005
has anybody tried to do that yet? any experiences? how-tos?
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Sep 26, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to upgrade MSDE 2000 to MS SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 (Build 9.00.3042.0) using a silent install.
MSDE on our systems is installed as a standalone product. There is only a single default instance (MSSQLSERVER) running on the system. SQL Authentication mode is being used.
When I try and upgrade MSDE 2000 directly to MS SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2, the install fails with an error:
"SQL Server Setup Cannot Upgrade the specified instance by using SQL Server Credential. You must use Windows Authentication credential for the upgrade"
When I try to upgrade the default instance of MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 selecting Windows authentication (logging in as a domain/local administrator to the server), the install fails with an error:
"Server Setup could not connect to the database service for server configuration. The error was: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Login failed for user <mydomain><AdminID>"
However, MSDE 2000 upgrade to an earlier version of MS SQL Server 2005 Express Edition (Build 9.00.1399.6) using SA Authentication works successfully without any errors.
So I tried to upgrade our MSDE installation to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 (Build 9.00.3042.0) as a 2 step process. First by upgrading MSDE to SQL Server 2005 (Build 9.00.1399.6) using SA Authentication which works successfully as mentioned earlier.
However, when I try and upgrade SQL Server 2005 (Build 9.00.1399.6) to SQL Server 2005 SP2 (Build 9.00.3042.0) using SA Authentication, I receive the same error as before:
"SQL Server Setup Cannot Upgrade the specified instance by using SQL Server Credential. You must use Windows Authentication credential for the upgrade"
When I upgrade using Windows Authentication, the setup displays the following error:
"[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again"
The log file content for the error is:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcStatement::execute_batch
sqlstate=01000, level=0, state=1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Signing sps ...
sqlstate=42000, level=16, state=1, native_error=15119, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.
sqlstate=HY000, level=0, state=0, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client]Unspecified error occurred on SQL Server. Connection may have been terminated by the server.
sqlstate=42000, level=16, state=2, native_error=2745, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Process ID 51 has raised user error 50000, severity 20. SQL Server is terminating this process.
sqlstate=HY000, level=20, state=127, native_error=50000, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Cannot create ##MS_AgentSigningCertificate## in msdb. INSTMSDB.SQL terminating.
Error Code: 15119
MSI (s) (08!80) [10:56:13:133]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SqlUpgradeMessage property. Its value is 'SQL Server Setup has encountered the following problem: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again.'.
SQL Server Setup has encountered the following problem:
Failed to execute the Transact-SQL statement:
/**************************************************************/
/* Sign agent sps and ...
Script file: sqlagent90_msdb_upgrade.sql
The error was: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again.
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
Error Code: 0x80073b0f (15119)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: libodbc_statement.h
Compiler Timestamp: Wed Jun 14 16:28:15 2006
Function Name: OdbcStatement::execute_batch@sqlagent90_msdb_upgrade.sql@967
Source Line Number: 91
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The registry entries suggest that the version now is 9.00.3042.0. However, I am not sure if the upgrade was successful. I can connect to the database using the old SA user ID and password.
If anyone else has faced similar issues, please let me know the workaround for the same.
Thanks and Regards,
Sahil Girotra
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Sep 28, 2007
Hi,
I am planning an upgrade from MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 (Build 9.00.3042.0) for our 2000/2K3 Servers. The MSDE installation on our servers is a standalone installation (default instance) and uses Mixed Mode Authentication. When I execute the setup program for upgrade and choose SQL Server Authentication (and enter the corresponding SA user Id password), the setup program displays an error "SQL Server Setup cannot upgrade the specified instance by using SQL Server Credential. You must use Windows Authentication credential for the upgrade". However, when I select Windows Authentication for the upgrade, the setup program displays an error €œ[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again€? (Error Code 15119).
I even tried changing the Authentication mode from Mixed Mode to Windows Authentication (by changing the LoginMode registry key value to 1) and running the upgrade using Windows Authentication, but I receive the same error.
1) Is the password policy for SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 different from MSDE or SQL Server 2005 Express Edition (Initial Version), since upgrade from MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition (Initial Version) worked successfully without any issues.
2) When I am using Windows Authentication for the upgrade, the installer does not prompt me for any password. What password is the installer validating against the password filter DLL? Is there a way to find it out? Also, is it possible to find out what was the reason for the password validation to fail?
I would really appreciate if I could get some answers to all the problems I am facing.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
Sahil Girotra
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Sep 6, 2007
I have a Windows Server 2000/Windows Server 2003 Environments with MSDE installed (default instance) and SecurityMode is SQL. I want to upgrade from MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition using a silent install since the number of servers is huge.
I downloaded the latest SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 Version 9.0.3042.0 from http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/bb410792.aspx
I am having the following problems:
- When I try to upgrade the default instance of MSDE (MSSQLSERVER) to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 using the above installer and selecting SQL authentication, the install fails with an error "SQL Server Setup Cannot Upgrade the specified instance by using SQL Server Credential. You must use Windows Authentication credential for the upgrade".
- When I try to upgrade the default instance of MSDE (MSSQLSERVER) to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 using the above installer and selecting Windows authentication, the install fails with an error "Server Setup could not connect to the database service for server configuration. The error was: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Login failed for user <mydomain><AdminID>
I had earlier tested upgrading the MSDE installation to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Version 9.00.1399.6 downloaded from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=220549b5-0b07-4448-8848-dcc397514b41&displaylang=en and the upgrade worked successfully using SQL Authentication (SA User and corresponding password), but for some reason it doesn't work when I use the latest version 9.0.3042.0.
Has anyone else faced similar issues. Any tips on how I can upgrade from MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2 are welcome.
Thanks in Advance.
Sahil Girotra
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Sep 18, 2006
Hi;
In http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=71679 topic, it is stated that SQL-DMO can be used to make msde publisher for transactional replication.
But in http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=71983 topic, Rishi said that "No Express Edition cant act as Publisher".
I am not clear about the difference btw msde and express.
Why msde can be publisher for transactional replication by SQL-DMO and why express edition can not be?
Thank you so much...
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Jan 29, 2007
I need to create the script to upgrade the current named instance of sql 2000 desktop engine to sql server 2005 express edition. I am having difficulty preparing the template.ini and would appreciate help.
[Options]
INSTANCENAME=MY_INSTANCE
SQLBROWSERACCOUNT=NT AUTHORITYNETWORK SERVICE
SECURITYMODE=SQL
SAPWD=music
UPGRADE=SQL_Engine
SQLBROWSERAUTOSTART=1
RSCANINSTALLDEFAULT=0
RSCONFIGURATION=FilesOnly
RSSQLLOCAL=0
I get an error that this file is invalid..Any clues? I am trying to upgrade existing instance of msde 2k to sql express 2005 and uses sql authentication
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Sep 23, 2006
Hello!M a newbie.. I just want to know, that wots the difference b/w SQL Server Standard Edition and Express Edition.?And can I use Visual Studio 2005 (Professional Edition) with SQL Server Express Edition.?
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Dec 1, 2006
Hello..
I've installed Visual Basic 2005 express edition & tried to connect to SQL Server 2005 express edition. I noticed that VB2005 Express Edition doesn't have any OLEDB provider for SQL Server. The only OLEDB Provider is for M.Access. Is this correct? if so, what should i do if i want to connect SQL Server 2005 express edition with VB2005 express edition by using OLEDB connection type?
I really appreciate any respond from you guys.. Thank's and waiting for the good news..
Best regards,
VITRELLE
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Feb 25, 2004
I have been using MSDE and I recently got Microsoft SQL ServerTM 2000 Developer Edition as part of my MAPS pack. Can and should I replace MSDE with Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition on my development pc? Thanks in advance for any advice on pros and cons or known issues?
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Jan 29, 2008
Hello All,
I am migrating from MSDE to Sql Server Comapct Edition.I want to how will it affect the code and how large the changes will be. For example will i need to change only the connection string or if some of the methods used by MSDE or not available in the CE version. Any information and ideas reagrding this will be useful.
Thanks & Regards
Keerti Somasundaram
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May 1, 2005
its sql server 7.0 and im looking for the service network utility and service manager that it didnt come with.. where can i download it?
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Aug 9, 2004
Hello,
I recently upgraded my MSDE server to SQL Server 2000 database. After the upgrade, I see, every minute,in the logfile that the database is starting whilst in Enterprise manager the database is up and running. I would be grateful if you could bail me out of this anomaly.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Albert.
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Aug 14, 2006
Is it possible to upgrade from MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition?
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Nov 2, 2006
I recently purchased a copy of Visual Studio 2005 Professional last month and it came with SQL Server Developer Edition. However, I noticed it also installs the express edition. If I choose not to install the Developer Edition (Im quite new to SQL) can I deploy a database I develop in the express edition on a regular SQL server?
Regards and thanks,
Matt
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Jul 20, 2005
It's arriving from ebuyer tomorrow for 32 quid. I already have aninstance of MSDE running on the laptop and ideally i would like SQLserver to be installed and use the current instance and not installany other additional services. [hope i got my terminology correcthere.] Basically all i would like is to use the Enterprise Managerwith my existing MSDE database. I was wondering if there is anything ishould be doing before I install. Should i shut down the service orleave it running for instance.Thanks for any tips,AndyB
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Jun 7, 2007
Hi all,
I have installed SQL server 2005 express edition with SQL server Management studio express (SSMSE).
I have installed also SQLce and I would know how I can manage sql compact edition databases (.ldf) with sql SSMSE, if it is possible!
I would be grateful if you could explain it trought a detailed guide (I am a beginner user of sql server tools) or trought a link to useful sites.
I'm Looking forward for your reply and still trying...
Alessandro
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Jul 3, 2006
According to this http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143393(d=robot).aspx, it seems that it cannot. But is this a complete chart?
Thanks for any help,
Peter
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May 17, 2007
hii download free starter kit timetraker application( i downloaded both Visual web devaloper and sql server express from the Internet) when i tried to run it it is showing the following errorAn error has occurred while establishing a connection to
the server. When connecting to SQL Server 2005, this failure may be
caused by the fact that under the default settings SQL Server does not
allow remote connections. (provider: Shared Memory Provider, error: 40
- Could not open a connection to SQL Server)plz give me the solution above error thanks in advance vittal
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Oct 25, 2007
I have:
A server computer running SQL Server 2005 Enterprise Edition.
A industrial computer running SQL Server 2005 Express Edition.
And now also a Psion WorkAboutPro with CE 5 that should run SQL Server Compact Edition.
The industrial computer syncs its data with the server, basically saying "this has happened".
Now I want the Psion to sync with the industrial computer, but this sync must two-way.
I have tried to find a guide or something that can tell me "do this to sync" but the information i have found is sketchy at best.
If someone could point me in the right direction of a guide or something else it would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Björn
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Jan 8, 2008
Hello,
I am trying to "import" a .dbf into SQL Server Compact Edition, but I cannot find a way to do so. Can someone tell me how this is done?
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Mar 8, 2008
Hi,
I'm getting an error while trying to install SQL Server Express 2005 Express Edition. I'm attaching the log of the installation process here. Please throw some light on the same.
Error 29503. The SQL Server service failed to start. For more information, see the SQL Server Books Online topics, "How to: View SQL Server 2005 Setup Log Files" and "Starting SQL Server Manually."
The error is (3) The system cannot find the path specified.
.
<Func Name='GetCAContext'>
<EndFunc Name='GetCAContext' Return='T' GetLastError='203'>
Doing Action: Do_sqlShutDownRANUInstance
PerfTime Start: Do_sqlShutDownRANUInstance : Sat Mar 08 21:39:12 2008
<Func Name='Do_sqlShutDownRANUInstance'>
Service SQLEXPRESS with parameters '' is being started at Sat Mar 08 21:39:12 2008
Unable to start service (3)
Error Code: 0x80070003 (3)
Windows Error Text: The system cannot find the path specified.
Source File Name: sqlsetuplibservice.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Wed Jun 14 16:29:04 2006
Function Name: sqls:ervice:tart
Source Line Number: 316
---- Context -----------------------------------------------
Setting status of unmanaged components and removing unmanaged resources
Error Code: 3
MSI (s) (D0!64) [21:39:17:257]: Product: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 -- Error 29503. The SQL Server service failed to start. For more information, see the SQL Server Books Online topics, "How to: View SQL Server 2005 Setup Log Files" and "Starting SQL Server Manually."
The error is (3) The system cannot find the path specified.
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Error 29503. The SQL Server service failed to start. For more information, see the SQL Server Books Online topics, "How to: View SQL Server 2005 Setup Log Files" and "Starting SQL Server Manually."
The error is (3) The system cannot find the path specified.
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Aug 13, 2007
Hello,
I have been unable to create a replication from an SQL Server 2005 standard edition database to remote SQL Server 2005 Express Edition. The remote express edition is on a Virtual Private Server we are leasing from a hosting company. The name of the remote DB is similar to vs572.si-vs572.com. I can connect to this with SQL server authentication through Management Studio and also with SSIS. But, I have been unable to create a push subscription (I have tried a test push subscription with the same publication to a local SQL Express server here in our office and this works fine).
Here is the error message: SQL Server Replication requires the actual server name to make a connection to the server. Connections through server alias, IP address, or any other alternate name are not supported. Specify the actual server name, 'VS572SQLEXPRESS'.
The hosting company had originally installed a shared SQL server which would not support replication. They then installed SQL Express edition and I was hoping this would allow us to run a replication.
I tried to connect to VS572SQLEXPRESS with out any luck. I check the remote connections, made sure replication was installed, etc., but no luck.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,
Albert
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May 9, 2006
I am currently downloading the mega-sized files for SQL Server 2005 Express Edition and was wondering if I was going to be able to install it onto my workstation alongside the SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition? Was hoping someone could advise. I did browse for an answer, but have not come across it yet. I know I'll find out once my download is complete, but that could be awhile :)
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I posted previously about concerns of using SQL Server 2005 Express in a shared hosting environment that is running SQL Server 2000. While I've received no responses I'm beginning to assume that an .mdf file created by mssql 2005 cannot be attached to mssql 2000. So I have a few questions...How do I set Visual Studio to create the aspnetdb file using an instance of msde instead of sql server express 2005? I've already tried changing the Instance name under Tools...Options...Database Tools...Data Connections to my msde instance but when I create a new site and use the the website configuration tool a sql 2005 db is still created in the App_Data folder.Do I need to uninstall 2005 express? Manually create and place a new .mdf file in the App_Data folder?
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Jun 4, 2007
We are attempting to backup using a maintenance plan a database to a network share.
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Jan 15, 2008
I have an application that is already installed on a Win2k3 Server using SQL Express 2005. I have another application that wants to use MSDE 2000 (already tried using SQL Express 2005, but it won't install). My question is, can both of these be installed on the same server and running at the same time without any problems? Thanks!
- Adam
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Dec 3, 2007
Hi,
I am looking to using the express edition toolkit for its BI tools but noticed the that it doesn't support a Database engine.
If I am running SQL Express edition, & install the Express toolkit, will this remove the Database engine functionality of the Express edition? Will there be conflicts? Will they run as separate GUI's or is the toolkit added to the Express edition GUI?
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Oct 18, 2005
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Dec 27, 2006
Hi guys,
I'm just wondering if the MSDE & SQL Server 2005 Express can run on the same machine(winxp) without conflicts. Because I need both the reporting services & the publication functionality of replication.
Thanks in advance.
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Jul 26, 2006
I read in the installation requirements document for SQL Server 2005 Express the section on upgrading MSDE to SQL Server 2005 Express. The section indicated that if MSDE is installed via an application installation, that application will have to be uninstalled to remove MSDE. This leads to my question.
The small application I'm looking into developing will require SQL Server 2005 Express. What if a customer is using an application that installed MSDE? Can the two products coexist without problems?
Thanks!!
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Aug 6, 2007
Hello,
at the moment I have the following problem:
We have installed a version of the MSDE 2000 Sp3 with our software since 2005. Now we install SQL Server Express 2005 in order to use the latest version and to be compatible with Vista.
We have never had any problems with the MSDE, so it was no problem that we installed the german version (by mistake) because there never was any output at installation time.
When we now upgrade the existing MSDE installing the new version of our software, there are often problems and there are error messages, unfortunately in german, which cannot be read by most of our international users.
The problem is, that there seems to be no possibility to upgrade the existing (german) MSDE with the english version of SQL Server Express 2005.
My question is, if it is possible to upgrade the german MSDE to the english SQL Server 2005 to enable our international users to read the error messages at installation time in english?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Peter
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