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May 25, 2007

Hi there,



Don't know if anyone can help,



There used to be a Whitepaper on the Microsoft website comparing SQL server (2000?) against Pervasive SQL or 2000, the link was http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/sql/.

But it's not working anymore.



Does anyone have a copy of this paper, or know where it's now located? I've been looking for hours and can't find it.



Thanks in advance.



Jezza

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Table 'LabTestToReportPanel'. Scan count 476, logical reads 1524, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'LabReleasedSampleTest'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2078, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'LabSample'. Scan count 1360, logical reads 18567, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'LabTest'. Scan count 1, logical reads 23, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'LabSampleDef'. Scan count 1, logical reads 10530, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'LabArea'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'Lab'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'Location'. Scan count 1, logical reads 2, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'Item'. Scan count 1335, logical reads 32940, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'ObjectState'. Scan count 1, logical reads 10972, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'Subject'. Scan count 0, logical reads 3293, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'FormDef'. Scan count 2, logical reads 70, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'PrintedLabSampleLabel'. Scan count 0, logical reads 13144, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'StudyEvent'. Scan count 18, logical reads 40, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0, lob logical reads 0, lob physical reads 0, lob read-ahead reads 0.

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Table 'Lab'. Scan count 19031, logical reads 38062, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'LabArea'. Scan count 19031, logical reads 38062, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0.

Table 'LabSampleDef'. Scan count 24670, logical reads 49340, physical reads 0, read-ahead reads 0.

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[code]....

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