SQL Server: Execution Plans + Statistics

Jan 13, 2004

In using ADO to connect to SQL Server, I'm trying to retrieve multiple datasets AND statistics that are usually returned via the OnInfoMessage event. For those that are familiar with SQL Server, I need the results returned by the SET STATISTICS IO ON and SET STATISTICS PROFILE ON options. Anyone had any luck doing this before?

Thanks in advance.

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I'm looking for assistance on a problem with SQL Server. We have adatabase where a particular query returns about 3000 rows. This querytakes about 2 minutes on most machines, which is fine in thissituation. But on another machine (just one machine), it can run forover 30 minutes and not return. I ran it in Query Analyzer and it wasreturning about 70 rows every 45-90 seconds, which is completelyunacceptable.(I'm a developer, not a DBA, so bear with me here.)I ran an estimated execution plan for this database on each machine,and the "good" one contains lots of parallelism stuff, in particularthe third box in from the left. The "bad" one contains a "Nested Loop"at that position, and NO parallelism.We don't know exactly when this started happening, but we DO know thatsome security updates have been installed on this machine (it's at theclient location), and also SP1 for Office 2003.So it looks like parallelism has been turned off by one of these fixes.Where do we look for how to turn it back on? This is on SQL Server2000 SP3.Thanks for any help you might have for me!Christine Wolak -- SPL WorldGroup --Join Bytes!

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Gurus,

I'm trying to get an application finished that works like Query Analizer in
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Problem the co-author is having:

>In using ADO to connect to SQL Server, I'm trying to retrieve multiple
>datasets AND statistics that are usually returned via the OnInfoMessage
>event. For those that are familiar with SQL Server, I need the results
>returned by the SET STATISTICS IO ON and SET STATISTICS PROFILE ON options.
>Anyone had any luck doing this before?

Can anyone shed any light on this please?

Thanks.

BTW if anyone wants to take a look at the tool so far - to see what I'm
delving into:
http://81.130.213.94/myforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=78&PN=1


Much Appreciated!!

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