SQL Server On Chared Hosting With Client Connections
Jul 23, 2005
www.shanje.com
does sql server hosting, on shared servers, at a reasonable price. It seems.
They also allow client connections. Just playing around I've managed to
connect an Access Data Project to a SQL Server database, and to access the
database from Enterprise Manager (running locally).
First of all - what does anybody think of that as a general idea - local
client, connecting to MS SQL Server running on a shared host, connecting
over the internet (ADSL here). Speed looket OK ish, but of course I haven't
done any real stress testing.
Second. In enterprise manager I could see ALL the database, though I could
only access mine. What's the security implications of this approach?
Third. Anybody got any experience of Shanje? Service/uptime/value etc. Or is
there anybody else offering a similar service?
Cheers, Jo
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Jul 23, 2005
I'd like to do this:Have a SQL Server database hosted on a public facing web server.I want it to be held at an ISP/Web hosting company. Though I have ADSL hereI don't want to manage a server.I want some ASP pages accessing the database.I would also like for a very small number (probably 2) of users to accessthe database from a richer client. Perhaps Access/VB.I've tried using www.shanje.com, as a test. It seems to work, though thereare worries about security.I want to keep cost down!On 'normal' shared MS hosting, would it be possible to connect to the dbfrom a client like Access. The way most web hosts talk it doesn't look likeit.Is there any way of providing a richer client interface than plain webpages? I want things like autocomplete (beyond the first character) for dropdowns, keyboard shortcuts etc.This would be low volume. Essentially a private database held on theinternet.Yours, Jo
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Oct 25, 2005
I am running SQL Server 2000 on windows XP pro. I have configured (enabled) TCP/IP protocol and left the default port 1433, but SQL server still does does not listen for client connections.
Can anyone tell me what might stop SQL server from listening???
With the server running, here is what I see (nothing on 1433...):
Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:1025 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:1030 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:1031 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:1098 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:6401 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:10002 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1034 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1037 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 192.168.0.104:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 192.168.0.104:1138 38.119.97.5:119 ESTABLISHED
UDP 0.0.0.0:445 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:500 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:1027 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:3456 *:*
UDP 0.0.0.0:4500 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:123 *:*
UDP 127.0.0.1:1900 *:*
UDP 192.168.0.104:123 *:*
UDP 192.168.0.104:137 *:*
UDP 192.168.0.104:138 *:*
UDP 192.168.0.104:1900 *:*
and here is the server log:
2005-10-25 23:23:24.31 server Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.194 (Intel X86)
Aug 6 2000 00:57:48
Copyright (c) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation
Personal Edition on Windows NT 5.1 (Build 2600: Service Pack 2)
2005-10-25 23:23:24.31 server Copyright (C) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.31 server All rights reserved.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.31 server Server Process ID is 3792.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.31 server Logging SQL Server messages in file 'c:MS SQL ServerMSSQLlogERRORLOG'.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.34 server SQL Server is starting at priority class 'normal'(2 CPUs detected).
2005-10-25 23:23:24.71 server SQL Server configured for thread mode processing.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.71 server Using dynamic lock allocation. [500] Lock Blocks, [1000] Lock Owner Blocks.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.74 spid3 Starting up database 'master'.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.92 server Using 'SSNETLIB.DLL' version '8.0.194'.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.92 spid5 Starting up database 'model'.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.96 spid3 Server name is 'GS-DELL'.
2005-10-25 23:23:24.96 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 4
2005-10-25 23:23:24.96 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 5
2005-10-25 23:23:24.96 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 6
2005-10-25 23:23:24.96 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 7
2005-10-25 23:23:25.10 spid5 Clearing tempdb database.
2005-10-25 23:23:25.28 server SQL server listening on Shared Memory, Named Pipes, Rpc.
2005-10-25 23:23:25.28 server SQL Server is ready for client connections
2005-10-25 23:23:25.59 spid5 Starting up database 'tempdb'.
2005-10-25 23:23:25.71 spid3 Recovery complete.
2005-10-25 23:23:40.37 spid51 Using 'xpstar.dll' version '2000.80.194' to execute extended stored procedure 'xp_MSADEnabled'.
2005-10-25 23:23:40.71 spid51 Error: 15457, Severity: 0, State: 1
2005-10-25 23:23:40.71 spid51 Configuration option 'show advanced options' changed from 1 to 1. Run the RECONFIGURE statement to install..
2005-10-25 23:23:40.89 spid51 Using 'xplog70.dll' version '2000.80.194' to execute extended stored procedure 'xp_msver'.
2005-10-25 23:23:40.93 spid51 Starting up database 'msdb'.
2005-10-25 23:24:54.20 spid51 Starting up database 'gpldb'.
2005-10-25 23:24:54.26 spid51 Analysis of database 'gpldb' (7) is 100% complete (approximately 0 more seconds)
2005-10-25 23:24:54.46 spid51 Starting up database 'Northwind'.
2005-10-25 23:24:54.60 spid51 Starting up database 'pubs'.
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SQL Server is cutting off client connections intermittently and I'm having a hard time figuring out why. Restarting the SQL server service fixes the issue for a few days but then it happens again. It's SQL Server 2005 on Windows SBS 2003 with XP and Win2000 clients connecting. Clients connect via a DSN file--they run an Access database. I run daily backups and all maintenance tasks on the databases and these happen without any errors.
Here are some of the error messages I get from the SQL Log:
Login failed for user 'NT AUTHORITYNETWORK SERVICE'. [CLIENT: 192.168.1.16]
Error: 18056, Severity: 20, State: 23.
The client was unable to reuse a session with SPID 72, which had been reset for conection pooling. This error may have been caused by an earlier operation failing. Check the error logs for failed operations immediately before this error message.
The SQL Network Interface library could not deregister the Service Principal Name (SPN) for the SQL Server service. Error: 0x862. Administrator should deregister this SPN manually to avoid client authentication errors.
And a recurring error in the SQL Agent Log:
[165] ODBC Error: 0, Driver's SQLAllocHandle on SQL_HANDLE_ENV failed [SQLSTATE IM004]
any clues into how i can further troubleshoot would be appreciated. I can't reproduce the error on command but it is bound to happen "randomly" during business hours and i really need it to stop. any insight appreciated.
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k
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Apr 18, 2007
I cannot understand how this was allowed to happen, but I can recreate the situation all day long. Someone, please tell me that I have missed an obvious solution to this;
With a fresh install of SQL 2005 Express (SP2) I have 4 databases installed and two service-based applications running. One of the service applications uses/requires three of the four databases and the second service application uses/requires the fourth database.
On boot, with the above described services set to depend on SQL Server service startup I get repeated failures on initial database access. Looking at the event log reveals why (in sequence):
SQL Server Startup...
Event: Server local connection provider is ready to accept connection on...
Event: Server named pipe provider is ready to accept connection on...
Event: Server is listening on [ 'any' <ipv4> 1911]
Application Service Startup...
Event: SQL Server is not ready to accept new client connections. Wait a few minutes before trying again. If you have access to the error log, look for the informational message that indicates that SQL Server is ready before trying to connect again
Moments Later:
Event: SQL Server is now ready for client connections. This is an informational message; no user action is required.
Now, its clear that the SQL service has started, and that this opens the floodgates for dependant services to start, each of which is told - essentially - to go away and come back once the SQL server has **really** started. With the accompanying suggestion to 'look for the informational message that indicates that SQL Server is ready' in the event log.
Am I reading the situation right so far?
In response to this, with my developer way of thinking, I could probably script the startup of application services rather than have them start automatically at boot or some such insane idea. But its not really the way that I had planned to spend the next few hours of my life, and it seems to me that I should not have to do such a thing.
Our in house service application (one of the two described) is in fact robust enough (just enough) to survive and to try the connection periodically, accomplishing a successful startup even with no database available.
The second of the two services is external and is unfortunately unable to start with no database available (Business Objects XI CMS). The normal means of making this service robust against database outages is the service restart procedure setting. But since the service doesnt ever start successfully, this doesnt work (learn something new every day - the restart is literal. It does not provide an initial startup retry and the service must have been started and fail for the retry to kick in)
Now, im not trying to bash anyone over this situation and regardless of the inflexible nature of the external service application and the general sillyness of the SQL server startup sequence - i mean c'mon... we are started but not ready? How about dont report startup until after you are ready? - the end result is that I need to come up with a solution to this problem.
I cant imagine that this is the first time that this behaviour has been questioned and I have to believe that there will be a simple, reliable workaround. I will keep looking for myself, but if any of this sounds familiar and you have a suggestion, your response will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi guys,
You know when restoring a database in SQL Server, exclusive access is required. With sp_who I can see the clients. But I don't know how to terminate the client connections easily. Usually I have to stop the server and restart it. I DO think it's too troublesome. Do you have any ideas? Is there any sp or command, or tool that may help? How do you deal with this issue?
Thanks!
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If I look under SQL native client configuration | Client protocols, I have no entries and no ability to look at the properties of SQL Native client Configuration. Something is missing which I think is related to an error when connecting to my local server.
sqlcmd -E -S .devmain, 1064
I get error :
Encryption not support
sqlcmd: Error: microsoft SQL native Client : Client unable to establish connection
An error has occurred while establish a connection to the server. When connecting to SQL Server 2005, this failure may be caused by the fact that under the default settings SQL Server does not allow remote connections..
In comparison to other machines here at work, it appears my remote connections are configured. But I have no Client Protocols under sql native client configuration, how can I get them in there?
Thanks, in advance.
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Right now the method employed (pre database mirroring and basically employing log shipping on SQL 2000) is to have a DNS alias for the ODBC connection so that if the server were to change in a failover situation the DNS record would have to be altered, so that all the client connections would not have to be reconfigured.
Regards,
Dominic Baines
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I have raised a point with the main programmer that we need to investigate more into how the application is managingot managing its ADO .NET connections to SQL.
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