SQL Rows In Pages Exceeding 8060 Bytes
Jan 14, 2008
This is a question that I have not had an opportunity to test. Was wanting to know if anyone in the SQl world knows the answer. In SQL 2K and 2005 your rolls are limited to 8060 bytes without using varchar(MAX). My question is do you have to specify varchar(max) before your roll can exceed 8060 or does SQL 2005 exceed without specifing varchar(Max). Also does SQL 2005 expand it across multiple pages automatically. Please assist if you can.
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Apr 23, 2008
Hi,
Im trying to create a VERY wide table, with 1,000 columns of type varchar(MAX), nullable.
The CREATE TABLE statement (both in SQL 2005 & 2008), gives the following warning:
Warning: The table "WIDE_TABLE" has been created, but its maximum row size exceeds the allowed maximum of 8060 bytes. INSERT or UPDATE to this table will fail if the resulting row exceeds the size limit.
When I insert data into the table, filling all columns with small, 10-byte string values, I get the following error:
Msg 50000, Level 16, State 1, Procedure sp_pivot, Line 118
Cannot create a row of size 15034 which is greater than the allowable maximum of 8060.
Id like to verify this observation: each row is created with 2000 bytes of offset data (2 byte * 1000 columns), 125 bytes for null bitmap (1000 columns / 8 bits) and some more wasted? row information. This leaves less than 6K for the data itself. But since not all columns can fit within the page, forwarding pointers in the row need to be created, 24 byte per column, which very quickly add up to more than 8K, thus the error. So the 8K limit is met for much less columns than the max 1024 column restriction.
Furthermore, in SQL 2008, SPARSE columns will not solve the problem (maybe save some metadata? space in case the columns are null, but if not, Im with the same problem again, or even worse, since now each value takes more storage space. The max 30,000 columns in 2008 is only for cases where the column values are really sparse¦
Is this the right observation? if so, is there a workaround besides splitting to multiple tables?
Thanks,
Aviv.
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Hi All,I have created a table in sql server 2000 where at the time of creatingit, the row size excced 8K. I understand why I get the warning below:The table 'tbl_detail' has been created but its maximum row size(12367) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060). INSERT orUPDATE of a row in this table will fail if the resulting row lengthexceeds 8060 bytes.However, when I call a stored procedure from my ASP Code, which returnsme this warning, my ASP page displays the warning and does not move tothe next line.What can I do not to get this warning? How do I turn off warningmessages? I tried to wrap my stored procedure call code within SETNOCOUNT ON and SET NOCOUNT OFF but that didn't help.Any help would be really appreciated,Thanks,Boris
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I thought I understand the notion in the Title until I ran the query below. This query inserts aĀ 5000 byte value into two columns in the same record and sql (2008) doesn't complain.Ā
-- drop table table_1
create table table_1(
[mychar1] [varchar](8000) NULL,
[mychar2] [varchar](8000) NULL
)
insert into table_1 ( mychar1, mychar2)
values (replicate('a', 5000) , replicate('b', 5000))
select * from table_1
-- truncate table table_1
I just noticed that usingĀ Ā Replicate ('a', 50000) doesn't cause an issue either. I'll be reviewing the replicate documentation too.
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I have some code I build 2 weeks ago which Iāve been running daily but itās suddenly stopped working with the following error.
āThe table "tbl_Intraday_Tmp" has been created, but its maximum row size exceeds the allowed maximum of 8060 bytes. INSERT or UPDATE to this table will fail if the resulting row exceeds the size limitā When I google this there seems to be a related to tables with vast numbers of columns.
My table tbl_Intraday_tmp is relatively small. It has 7 columns. 1 of varchar(5), 3 of decimal(9,3) and 2 of decimal(18,0). The bit Iām puzzled with is it was working and stopped.
I donāt recall changing anything but I wouldnāt rule that out. I āve inspected the source files and I donāt believe they have changed either.
DECLARE Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā
@FileName varchar(50),
@Path varchar(50),
@SqlCmd varchar(1000)
= '',
@ASXCode varchar(5),
@Offset decimal(18,0),
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I am using MS SQL server 2008, and i have a table with 350 columns and when i m trying to create one more column its giving error with below message -
Warning: The table XXX has been created, but its maximum row size exceeds the allowed maximum of 8060 bytes.
INSERT or UPDATE to this table will fail if the resulting row exceeds the size limit.
how can i resolve this?
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Hi everyone,
I have a simple question about Rows in Pages for you.
In my opinion, rows are the storage of the data in databases.
I would like to ask that there are any important properties of Rows which I am not aware.
Thanks
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Hello
I am getting following error during executing a insert query.
Error Message : Cannot create a worktable row larger than allowable maximum.
Resubmit your query with the ROBUST PLAN hint.
1. The max rowsize for a table in SQL Server 2000 is 8060 characters.
2. The query was working fine for data below the limit, it failed
for the data above the limit.
3. I had tested the UPDATE query with option (ROBUST PLAN ), but it didnt work.
if any one have clue to solve this problem plzz reply soon.
-thanks in advance
--dharmendra singh
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Hello,
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go
CREATE TABLE [RowSizeError](
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Ā [F2] [nvarchar](50) NULL,
Ā [F3] [nvarchar](50) NULL,
Ā
[code]....
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Please help me ..
Thanks in anticipation
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Server: Msg 823, Level 24, State 6, Line 1
I/O error 38(Reached the end of the file.) detected during read at offset 0000000000000000 in file 'D:EorderdatabasePritamdbeorderpritamdb_Data.mdf'.
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