SS2005 Standard (RTM && SP1 CTP1) Evaluates Sub-queries In Wrong Order
Mar 24, 2006
We are experiencing a problem in SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (on x86 & x64, RTM & SP1 CTP1). The problem is we have a view which does something like "CREATE VIEW myView;SELECT * FROM MyTable WHERE ISNumeric(MyVal)=1" when you do "SELECT * FROM myView" you see a dataset which only contains numeric values.
However it's clear that if you do "SELECT * FROM myView WHERE MyVal>5" that it is evaluating the >5 before the IsNumeric function (I assume as > is less costly than IsNumeric and thus it is more efficient this way). This didn't happen in Sql Server 2000 & 7.0.
My concern here is that how can you trust views if when you put evaluations on them they're working against a different dataset to that which you view if you do SELECT * ?
I am currently working with a workaround which is to simply put TOP in the sub-queries to force the execution order to that which I've defined. However this is nasty as I can't do TOP 100% as it gets optimised out and so instead I have to do TOP 999999999 or similar.
However my biggest concern by far is that even in "SQL Server 2000 (80)" compatibility mode the behaviour is not consistent wtih SS2000.
CREATE TABLE #Problem (idkey int IDENTITY(1,1), numinastr varchar(25))
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('1')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('10')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('25')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('40')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('>500')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('600')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('1000')
INSERT INTO #Problem (numinastr) values ('error!')
-- Note Lack of any non-numeric rows
SELECT numinastr FROM #Problem WHERE ISNUMERIC(numinastr)=1
-- This Command executes correctly
SELECT numinastr FROM #Problem WHERE ISNUMERIC(numinastr)=1 AND numinastr>15
--This one however is parsed incorrectly, with >15 being evalutated before ISNumeric
SELECT * from (
SELECT * FROM #Problem WHERE ISNUMERIC(numinastr)=1
) a where numinastr>15
-- Creating a view of SELECT * FROM #Problem WHERE ISNUMERIC(numinastr)=1 and
-- then querying that also gives the same error
DROP TABLE #Problem
I have been told (by an MVP) that you can't assume a specific execution order for queries. Do any DBA's out there really think this acceptable? I consider this a bug. If I put a query in as a sub-query or view, or if I bracket my where statement in such a way I expect it to respect what I've told it!
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Does anyone know any bug relationed with memory paging and order by clause?
I try to explain:
I have the following code inside a SP:
create table #tempA (colA char(2), colB numeric(7), colC numeric(3))
create table #tempB (colA char(2), colB numeric(7), colC numeric(3))
)
insert into #tempA
(...)
(...)
insert into #tempB (colA,colB,colC)
select colA,colB,colC
from #tempA
order by
colB,colA,colC
select * from #tempB
While using the reserved memory for the SQL Server, the last 'select' works pretty well. After the memory swapping starts, the 'select' returns data in incorrect order.
Any Ideas?
Thank you for all support than you can give me.
:confused:
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I have the follow table.
/****** Object: Table [dbo].[deletethisTempOut] Script Date: 09/10/2007 09:20:12 ******/
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
SET ANSI_PADDING ON
GO
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[deletethisTempOut](
[ThemeName] [varchar](60) NULL,
[intLocationCount] [int] NULL,
[dblRepValueA] [float] NULL,
[dblRepValueB] [float] NULL,
[dblRepValueC] [float] NULL,
[dblRepValueD] [float] NULL,
[dblTotalRepValue] [float] NULL,
[dblLimit1] [float] NULL,
[dblLimit2] [float] NULL,
[dblLimit3] [float] NULL,
[dblLimit4] [float] NULL,
[dblTotalLimit] [float] NULL,
[fltEmployeecount] [float] NULL,
[intAreaLevel1] [tinyint] NOT NULL,
[strFullName] [varchar](13) NOT NULL,
[strAreaLevel2] [varchar](20) NOT NULL,
[strAreaLevel3] [varchar](20) NOT NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
SET ANSI_PADDING OFF
If I use the following SQL:
SELECT ThemeName, intLocationCount, dblRepValueA, dblRepValueB, dblRepValueC, dblRepValueD, dblTotalRepValue, dblLimit1, dblLimit2, dblLimit3,
dblLimit4, dblTotalLimit, fltEmployeecount, intAreaLevel1, strFullName, strAreaLevel2, strAreaLevel3
FROM deletethisTempOut
ORDER BY strAreaLevel2, strAreaLevel3
GET Following correct results:
Adair
284
899989594
0
574857716
190479902
1665327212
0
0
0
0
1665327212
0
1
United States
1
1
IF I use the following SQL I get the wrong results:
SELECT ThemeName, intLocationCount, dblRepValueA, dblRepValueB, dblRepValueC, dblRepValueD, dblTotalRepValue, dblLimit1, dblLimit2, dblLimit3,
dblLimit4, dblTotalLimit, fltEmployeecount, intAreaLevel1, strFullName, strAreaLevel2, strAreaLevel3
FROM deletethisTempOut
ORDER BY ThemeName
WRONG results:
Adair
74
81733110
0
49616018
24671651
156020779
50510500
0
0
0
203870779
0
1
United States
50
1
Adair
437
1468698657
0
495479839
353202768
2317381264
12984266
0
0
0
2315676030
0
1
United States
25
1
Adair
1813
20309722045
0
6597005374
4253819645
31160547064
43636703
0
0
0
31135010742
0
1
United States
11
1
Adair
606
439581417
0
331746662
132240332
903568411
0
0
0
0
903568411
0
1
United States
45
1
Adair
236
350256381
0
524269553
504973831
1379499765
4080368
0
0
0
1380473415
0
1
United States
23
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Name DT_STR Lenght: 100
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I understand that I have to have a TOP statement to work with an ORDER BY in a subquery but I am unable to get it to work correctly...
I am using VS 2008 and it does throw a "TOP" error, but it does not go ahead and process it correctly like someone said it would in another post...
Is this possible or simply how do I accomplish the following?
Here is an example:
Code Snippet
SELECT ResultSet1.BCol2, ResultSet1.CCol2, ResultSet1.Expr1
FROM
(SELECT TableB.BCol2, TableC.CCol2, count(*) AS Expr1
FROM TableA
INNER JOIN
TableB ON TableA.ACol2 = TableB.BCol1
INNER JOIN
TableC ON TableA.ACol4 = TableC.CCol1 AND TableA.ACol5 = TableC.CCol4
WHERE (TableC.CCol2= 1)
GROUP BY TableB.BCol2, TableC.CCol2) AS ResultSet1
To...
Code Snippet
SELECT ResultSet1.BCol2, ResultSet1.CCol2, ResultSet1.Expr1
FROM
(SELECT TOP (10) TableB.BCol2, TableC.CCol2, count(*) AS Expr1
FROM TableA
INNER JOIN
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INNER JOIN
TableC ON TableA.ACol4 = TableC.CCol1 AND TableA.ACol5 = TableC.CCol4
WHERE (TableC.CCol2= 1)
ORDER BY Expr1
GROUP BY TableB.BCol2, TableC.CCol2) AS ResultSet1
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