SSAS Crashes - Mining Predictions For Large Data Sets
Sep 7, 2006
Hi all,
I am using SSAS 2005. The mining model works fine. But it crashes when I run the 'Mining Model Predictions' against large data sets.
I ran it against 5,000,000 records and it went fine.
But exactly same model failed for 5,100,000 records and beyound.
The message is 'Query Execution Failed' and then Visual Studio crashes.
Pl. let me know if anybody has the same experience or knows the solution.
Thanks,
Vikas
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May 17, 2007
Hi,
I've been playing around with the association mining model in SQL server 2005 and built a market-basket analysis of my data that I'm pretty happy with. The next task for me is figuring out how to run DMX queries against the data that I've just mined, so we may possibly use it in a web based application. This wouldn't necessarily be a difficult problem (and still may not be), but every example I've seen for the Mining Model Prediction Designer uses relational databases and I built my mining model off OLAP. Therefore, my predictable attribute is nested and when relating the mining model structure to the relational database that the cube was built off always gives me an error:
"Errors in the high-level relational engine. The 'CompanyName' column could not be found in the top-level clause of the SHAPE statement."
What I would like to do, and I'm not really even sure how I should structure any of my queries, is feed the model a product and have it return a listing of all the products it predicts. Currently, I've only been able to get the designer mode to process a singleton query, and even that didn't return any useful data. I know that this probably can be done pretty easily so any advice you may be able to offer would be greatly appreciated!!
So you may better understand my question, my association mining structure hierarchy looks as this..
[Model] ProductRecommend
[Case][Key]CustomerList
[Case][Attribute]CompanyName
[NestedTable]Product
[Nested][Key]PRODUCTCLASSID
[Nested][Attribute]PRODUCT
With that in mind, I'm trying to perform a query simliar to this:
SELECT
PredictProbability([ProductRecommend].[Product].[PRODUCTCLASSID]), <---- Throws Error for PredictProbability syntax no matter what I try to get to [PRODUCTCLASSID]
(SELECT [PRODUCT] FROM [ProductRecommend].[Product])
From
[ProductRecommend]
NATURAL PREDICTION JOIN
(SELECT 'test' AS [COMPANYNAME],
(SELECT '1234' AS [PRODUCTCLASSID],
'ProductA' AS [PRODUCT]) AS [Product]) AS t
Thanks again for any help!
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Could I ask how to spit the data into training and validation sets when doing data mining?
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Hello:
I would like to send data feeds to Sales Reps listing customers with their likelihood of purchasing a product from a certain Category. The data will basically contain Customer Name, Category, Likelihood Score (or Probability Score). When sorted in Descending order of Probabililty a Sales Rep can easily see the customers who are most likely to purchase at the top of the list and can call them.
I figured I would explore the use of SSAS data mining for this, and integrate it within an SSIS data flow (needed to send the data out to the sales reps).
I have not worked on Data Mining and so am clueless as to where to begin. I have been reading a book on it but most of the examples this far show me how the results can be viewed within AS, which is not what I am looking for.
Ideally I would like to run an algorithm against all our product categories for 2007 and store the results to a table. Then use that table as a lookup to get the probability score for specific categories that we are targeting in 2008.
I appreciate any advice for the experienced SSAS folks on this forum.
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Mar 15, 2008
I probably posted my question in the wrong forum so please check here:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3009605&SiteID=17
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Hi, all here,
I am wondering where can I store my mining results in data mining engine? For example, I got mining results like accuracy chart, decision trees, and other formats of results based on different mining algorithms I used for my data mining, so where can I actually store the results for reporting service use later? Is it possible to do that in SQL Server 2005?
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I followed the tutorial posted at [URL] ...
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I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks a lot.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Hoping someone will have a solution for this error
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0 0
"
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100 Bike
100 Helmet
100 Shoes
200 Helmet
200 basketball
200 Bat
300 Shoes
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I am trying to get predictions and insert them into a DB table.
Following is the code I am using , but I am getting an error saying
'
An error occurred while preparing the query
,
Pl. help.
begin
declare @v_query varchar(5000);
declare @full_query varchar(5000);
declare @v_dbquery varchar (200);
set @v_dbquery = char(39)+'SELECT
[ProspectAlternateKey],
[FirstName],
[LastName],
[MaritalStatus],
[Gender],
[YearlyIncome],
[TotalChildren],
[NumberChildrenAtHome],
[HouseOwnerFlag],
[NumberCarsOwned]
FROM
[dbo].[ProspectiveBuyer]'+char(39);
set @v_query = 'SELECT
[TM_Cluster].[Bike Buyer],
t.[ProspectAlternateKey],
PredictProbability([TM_Cluster].[Bike Buyer])
From
[TM_Cluster]
PREDICTION JOIN
OPENQUERY([Adventure Works DW],@v_dbquery) AS t
ON
[TM_Cluster].[Marital Status] = t.[MaritalStatus] AND
[TM_Cluster].[Gender] = t.[Gender] AND
[TM_Cluster].[Yearly Income] = t.[YearlyIncome] AND
[TM_Cluster].[Total Children] = t.[TotalChildren] AND
[TM_Cluster].[Number Children At Home] = t.[NumberChildrenAtHome] AND
[TM_Cluster].[House Owner Flag] = t.[HouseOwnerFlag] AND
[TM_Cluster].[Number Cars Owned] = t.[NumberCarsOwned]'
-- print @v_query
set @full_query = 'select * from openquery (DMserver,'+char(39)+ @v_query +char(39)+')' ;
print @full_query;
EXEC (@full_query);
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