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May 16, 2006

First let me say, I really can't believe this chain of events myself--and they are happening to me.

I am upgrading several DTS packages to SSIS on what will be my new production server. These packages create tables, export them to a flat file, and ftp them off to other locations.

What is happening (on the SSIS side) is that the OLE DB Source is reordering some of the columns on its own (moving them to the end of the table/file. Then when my pickup/load routines run, the data is out of place and they fail.

Can anyone please explain what is happening here with the mapping. I have evaluated the table and the columns are in the order that I expect. When I preview the source table in the OLE DB Source Editor the columns are in the correct order/alignment, but when them in the OLE DB Source Editor --Columns section within BIDS the order is changed arbitrarily.

I have been somewhat successful (2 out of 3) in being able to re-map the data, but this last table just doesn't want to change.

Thanks in advance for any help and/or information you can provide

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