SSIS Package (Data Flow) Validation Time Going Exponential
Jul 25, 2007
I am using SSIS to populate a star schema.
The issue is in the data flow for loading and setting the Fact table dimension keys (the dimensions are all loaded fine). After 16 rather pedestrian Lookup Transformations, I have an escalating problem adding additional Lookup transforms to the Data Flow. The problem is not in execution; the problem is adding more transforms in design mode.
Lookup # Fields in Data Flow Time to validate that lookup
<17 47 Sub-second
17 48 2 sec
18 49 4 sec
19 50 8 sec
20 51 16 sec
21 52 32 sec
22 53 64 sec
While I€™m intrigued by the mathematical progression that is forming here, the issue is that I have at least 6 more Lookups to perform. I hope you can see my dilemma.
I have gone to where it takes a little over 4 minutes each to validate the lookup transform and its associated Derived Column transform and Union transform (Total 12 Minutes). Not only does this add up to many idle minutes to each design step, BUT it breaks the debugger as it pre-validates the ENTIRE data flow before it ever switches into debugging mode.
Some notes:
1. It doesn€™t matter what order the Lookup transforms occur in, the timings are exactly the same.
2. I tried many Data Flow execution optimizations, but they don€™t improve the validation times (or even get a chance to improve the execution times!)
I realize this may be somewhat of a unique problem.
Thanks for any help you are able to lend.
-Dave
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Apr 19, 2006
I have SSIS Projects taking a long time to open with packages with a large number of data flows. Is there a way to turn off validation of metadata when a package opens? Turn off validation during execution on SSIS Service (after previously validated in dev)? Or be able to control when validation takes place in general?
In my one package (1 of 5) I have 43 data flows (with a single source to target mapping) in 4 sequence containers, and it takes approximately 2-3 seconds per source to target mapping and sequence container to validate which will translate to 1 ˝ to 2 ˝ minutes to open. When the project with all 100+ tables for the data warehouse goes through validation, I can make coffee in the time it takes to open the project. I have to delete *.suo file (or verify all packages are closed in the designer and save the project file), and when I open the project, I have to jump immediately to SSISĂ Work Offline to set it to not validate the metadata to be able to work in a timely fashion. DelayValidation=TRUE does not help much.
Running in debug mode, has an effect of causing packages that were not open and validated to go through validation though I am not running those packages. Validate once during design and run forever.
Even if I re-open a package that I just closed from designer and had gone through validation, it will go through the validation process again.
It would be great if there could be an on-demand option off the menu bar to allow one to control when validation can take place for a project, or a more granular validation option for a specific data flow or container.
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Jul 26, 2006
Hi all...
I'm creating a SSIS in the designer view of SQL Server BI Dev. Studio (SQL Server 2005)
I need to import a whole table from MS Access into my local SQL Server.(this task will be performed weekly, so once working I'll schedule a job for it)
I've created a 'FILE' connection to MS Access in the 'Connection Managers'.
When I'm on the 'Data Flow' tab I can't find a Data Flow Item to use as a MS Access connection.
(available on the 'Data Flow Sources' are only: DataReader, Excel, Flat File, OLE DB, Raw File and XML Sources)
What am I doing wrong/missing?
Thanks for your help.
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Jul 14, 2006
Hello.
I am using the "SSIS Log Provider for SQL Server" to log events to a table for "OnError" and "OnPostExecute" events of a package. This works as expected and provides a nice clean output on the execution steps of the package.
I am curious as to why I do not see any detail for any/all tasks that fall under the "Data Flow" section of the package though. For instance, on my "Control Flow" tab, I added a "Data Flow" task that simply loads a few tables from a target to destination server. However, there is nothing shown in the logging output. Just that a Data Flow task was initiated. And when I'm configuring this logging under "SSIS-->Logging" in the checkbox area on the left, you cannot "drill into" data flow steps.
Is there a reason why there is no detailed logging for Data Flow tasks? Would getting to that require me to create a custom log provider?
Thanks for the help.
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We're experiencing a problem where intermittently our SSIS packages will hang. There are no log errors or events in the event viewer. It will happen whether the package is executed from the SQL Job Agent or run from BIDs. When running from BIDs it appears to hang inside one of the data flows (several parallel pipes with sorts, merge joins etc...). It appears to hang in multiple pipes within the data flow component. The problem is reproducable, we just kill it and re-run, and it appears to hang in the same places.
Now here's the odd thing: as we simply open and close some of the components in the pipe line after the place it hangs, a subsequent run will go further in the pipeline before hanging. If we open and close all the components after the point it initially hung, the data flow will run fine, from there on out. When I say "open and close" I mean no changes are made, we simply double-click the component, like a merge join, then click 'close.'
To me this does not seem like a memory problem but likely something is wrong with the metadata, where opening a component and closing it somehow alters the metadata to "right it".
This seems to occur intermittently after we make modifications to the package. It's like if you make any mod, even unrelated to the data flow, you then have to go through and open and close every component in your package to ensure it will work. Again, no errors or warnings are fired.
Has anyone seen this type of problem?
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Nov 8, 2007
Dear all,
I am trying to executed a packege so that it loads data from from the excel file to the SQL Server Server database.
When I execute it, it prompts the following error message and 1 warning
The excel file has three colums, Week, Item and Value
Error 4 Validation error. Data Flow Task: OLE DB Source [94]: SSIS Error Code DTS_E_OLEDBERROR. An OLE DB error has occurred. Error code: 0x80040E14. An OLE DB record is available. Source: "Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Oracle" Hresult: 0x80040E37 Description: "ORA-00942: table or view does not exist ". Test - GET NW PERF 1.dtsx 0 0
Warning
Warning 1 Validation warning. Data Flow Task: OLE DB Destination [36]: The external metadata column collection is out of synchronization with the data source columns. The column "DAY" needs to be added to the external metadata column collection. The column "TCH_AVAIL" needs to be added to the external metadata column collection. The column "PDROP" needs to be added to the external metadata column collection. The column "P_HR" needs to be added to the external metadata column collection. The column "SFAIL" needs to be added to the external metadata column collection. The "external metadata column "VALUE" (90)" needs to be removed from the external metadata column collection. The "external metadata column "ITEM" (89)" needs to be removed from the external metadata column collection. Not in use - GET NW STATS.dtsx 0 0
Could someone give me a hand here.
Regards,
Ronald
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I have an SSIS package authored in SSDT for VS 2013 that cancels itself immediately after validation completes and execution commences. This behavior occurs when executed either in VS 2013 or from within SQL Server. No error messages are thrown in either the debug window or the log output (log is capturing everything). The only thing that occurs differently on this package as compared to another package I am able to execute successfully is that a command line window briefly flashes when the package cancels itself—but it is gone so fast I cannot read it. The last several lines of the debug output are as follows:
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Information: 0x40043006 at Merge Info, SSIS.Pipeline: Prepare for Execute phase is beginning.
Information: 0x40043007 at Merge Info, SSIS.Pipeline: Pre-Execute phase is beginning.
Information: 0x402090DC at Merge Info, All Users CSV [2]: The processing of file "C:...AllUsers.csv" has started.
Information: 0x400490F4 at Merge Info, Lookup Org [47]: Lookup Org has cached 957 rows.
Information: 0x400490F5 at Merge Info, Lookup Org [47]: Lookup Org has cached a total of 26719 rows.
[Code] ....
What circumstances an SSIS package would cancel itself without throwing any errors?
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Does anyone see this problem before?
Here is my error message:
OnError,PC6071,SLCNTFJ3845,Get Address Parcel Route,{948E2EC3-4B1D-4465-B5B9-2DD95F91B1B3},{35E95EAA-0C59-4D79-A07E-6E876D603253},7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,-1071611876,0x,The AcquireConnection method call to the connection manager "GEODB" failed with error code 0xC0202009.
OnError,PC6071,SLCNTFJ3845,Get Address Parcel Route,{948E2EC3-4B1D-4465-B5B9-2DD95F91B1B3},{35E95EAA-0C59-4D79-A07E-6E876D603253},7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,-1073450985,0x,component "get parcel from Sub Struct" (75) failed validation and returned error code 0xC020801C.
OnError,PC6071,SLCNTFJ3845,Get Address Parcel Route,{948E2EC3-4B1D-4465-B5B9-2DD95F91B1B3},{35E95EAA-0C59-4D79-A07E-6E876D603253},7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,-1073450996,0x,One or more component failed validation.
OnError,PC6071,SLCNTFJ3845,Get Address Parcel Route,{948E2EC3-4B1D-4465-B5B9-2DD95F91B1B3},{35E95EAA-0C59-4D79-A07E-6E876D603253},7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,7/20/2007 9:54:27 AM,-1073594105,0x,There were errors during task validation.
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