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Earth [Structure]
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--- Japan [Structure]
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------- Servers [Group]
------- Laptops [Group]
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--------- Servers [Group]
--------- Laptops [Group]
----------- HP [Product]
----------- Dell [Product]
------- Home Stuff [Group]
--------- Kitchen Stuff [Group]
--------- bedroom Stuff [Group]
----- Washington [Structure]
------- Computer Stuff [Group]
--------- Desktops [Group]
--------- Servers [Group]
--------- Laptops [Group]
----------- HP [Product]
----------- Dell [Product]
----------- Acer [Product]
------- Home Stuff [Group]
--------- Kitchen Stuff [Group]
--------- bedroom Stuff [Group]
----- Chicago [Structure]
------- Computer Stuff [Group]
--------- Desktops [Group]
--------- Servers [Group]
--------- Laptops [Group]
------- Home Stuff [Group]
--------- Kitchen Stuff [Group]
--------- bedroom Stuff [Group]
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------- Computer Stuff [Group]
--------- Desktops [Group]
--------- Servers [Group]
--------- Laptops [Group]
----------- Acer [Product]
------- Home Stuff [Group]
--------- Kitchen Stuff [Group]
--------- bedroom Stuff [Group]
----- Durban [Structure]
----- Capte Town [Structure]
- Australasia [Structure]

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3. Calculate Score for [Acer] product against Group [Computer Stuff] for Johannesburg
4. Calculate Score for all products against Group [computer Stuff] for Johannesburg
5. Calculate score for [Acer] product against all root groups for Johannesburg
5.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
6. Calculate score for all products against all root groups for Johannesburg
6.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
7. Calculate score for [Acer] Product against Group Laptop for South Africa
8. Calculate Score for all products (productid = null) against Laptop for South Africa
9. Calculate Score for [Acer] product against Group [Computer Stuff] for South Africa
10. Calculate Score for all products against Group [computer Stuff] for South Africa
11. Calculate score for [Acer] product against all root groups for South Africa
11.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
12. Calculate score for all products against all root groups for South Africa
12.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
13. Calculate score for [Acer] Product against Group Laptop for Africa
14. Calculate Score for all products (productid = null) against Laptop for Africa
15. Calculate Score for [Acer] product against Group [Computer Stuff] for Africa
16. Calculate Score for all products against Group [computer Stuff] for Africa
17. Calculate score for [Acer] product against all root groups for Africa
17.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
18. Calculate score for all products against all root groups for Africa
18.1. Group [Comptuer Stuff] and [Home Stuff]
etc. etc. etc...

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Ok, so now that i've explained briefly how this scoring works, let me get to the heart of the problem. Basicly its speed (can clearly see why), though the speed issue only comes
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For this to happen i wrote a function
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( @StructureId INT,
@GroupId INT,
@ProductId INT,
@AnswerDateId INT )
RETURNS INT
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @Id INT
DECLARE @Date DATETIME

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FROM [dbo].[AnswerDate]
WHERE [Id] = ISNULL(@AnswerDateId, [Id])
ORDER BY [Date] DESC

SELECT TOP 1 @Id = ad.id--gs.[AnswerDateId]
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AND ISNULL([GroupId], -1) = ISNULL(@GroupId, -1)
AND ISNULL([ProductId], -1) = ISNULL(@ProductId, -1)
AND [Date] <= @Date
ORDER BY [Date] DESC

RETURN @Id
END

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FROM [Scoring]
WHERE AnswerDateId = GetLatestAnswerDateId([Structure], [GroupId], [ProductId], null)
AND [StructureId] = South Africa
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My Current runtime for calculating the 2500 base scores (totals 100 000+- rows) takes 15 hours. Though this is an initial calculation and is only supposed to be done once.
Also, this calculations are all correct, so my only issue itself is the speed of the entire process.

Thanks In Adance

Jonathan

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Jan 27, 2004

Right, I'm no SQL programmer. As I type this, I have roughly the third the hair I had at 5 o'clock last night. I even lost sleep over it.

I'm trying to return a list of records from a database holding organisation names. As I've built a table to hold record versions, the key fields (with sample data) from a View I created to display this is as follows:

record_id-----org_id-----live-----version
====== ===== === =====
1-------------1----------0----------1
2-------------2----------0----------1
3-------------1----------1----------2
4-------------2----------0----------2

as you can see the record id will always be unique. record 3 is a newer version of record 1, and 4 of 2. the issue is thus: i only want to return unique organisations. if a version of the organisation record is live on the system (in this case record id 3), i want to return the live version with its unique record id. i'm assuming for this i can perform a simple "SELECT WHERE live = 1" query.

however, some organisations will have no live versions (see org with id 2). i still wish to return a record for this organisation, but in this case the most recent version ie version 2 (and again - its unique record id)

in actual fact, it seems so much clearer when laid out like this. however, i feel it's not going to happen this end, and so any help would be greatly appreciated.

many thanks in advance,

phil

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