Service Broker Neophyte Question: Conversation_id And Conversation Handle
Nov 29, 2005within the context of the sys.conversation_endpoints system view, there is:
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Conversation Handle Processed By An Activated Stored Procedure Service Can Not Be Invoked By A CLR Service Instance?
Dec 1, 2006I have a initiator and a target service broker peer.
Both are controlled by a C# unit test. The initiator uses the Microsoft.Samples.SqlServer class. The target service uses stored procedure activation.
Sending a message from the initiator to the target, saves the content of the message, along with its conversation handle in the target's database specific table.
The unit test needs - at a later time - to instruct the target to send a message back on the same conversation handle to the initiator service.
For this the C# unit test creates a Conversation off of the saved conversation handle:
Service client = new Service("cleintservicename", conn, tran);
Conversation dialog = null;
dialog = new Conversation(client, convHandle);
Sending the message on this dialog generates an error "Message body: <Error xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/Error"><Code>-8495</Code><Description>The conversation has already been acknowledged by another instance of this service.</Description></Error>".
Is the error due to the fact that a service - using the activated stored procedure already picked up the conversation, so that a new reference to the service can not be created through the Service class in CLR?
If so, I might need then to skip the activated stored procedure in favor or a CLR service, alltogether?
Any help - greatly appreciated.
Error Log Peppered With --&&> 'The Conversation Handle Is Missing. Specify A Conversation Handle.'
Dec 3, 2007Hi
I'm using service broker and keep getting errors in the log even though everythig is working as expected
SQL Server 2005
Two databases
Two end points - 1 in each database
Two stored procedures:
SP1 is activated when a message enters the sending queue. it insert a new row in a table
SP2 is activated when a response is sent from the receiving queue. it cleans up the sending queue.
I have a table with an update trigger
In that trigger, if the updted row meets a certain condition a dialogue is created and a message is sent to the sending queue.
I know that SP1 and SP2 are behaving properly because i get the expected result.
Sp1 is inserteding the expected data in the table
SP2 is cleaning up the sending queue.
In the Sql Server log however i'm getting errors on both of the stored procs.
error #1
The activated proc <SP 1 Name> running on queue Applications.dbo.ffreceiverQueue output the following: 'The conversation handle is missing. Specify a conversation handle.'
error #2
The activated proc <SP 2 Name> running on queue ADAPT_APP.dbo.ffsenderQueue output the following: 'The conversation handle is missing. Specify a conversation handle.'
I would appreceiate anybody's help into why i'm getting this. have i set up the stored procs in correctly?
i can provide code of the stored procs if that helps.
thanks.
Service Broker End Conversation
Jan 17, 2007Hello people
I am new to service broker and would like a little help please. I have a SP which gathers information from a collection of tables. Depending on the data gathered it may or may not begin a dialog conversation with a service broker queue. What i'm needing to know is should at the end of the SP once the required message has been sent should i end the conversation or not?
Many thanks in advance, Michael
Service Broker Sending Message To Self. Start Conversation With Self
Jan 29, 2008I've got a situation where I want to put request message on a queue. Because starting a conversation is the only way to put messages on a queue I have to start a conversation with myself. So my Begin Dialog Statement looks something like this:
DECLARE @conversation_handle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @conversation_handle
FROM SERVICE [ServiceName1]
TO SERVICE 'ServiceName1'
ON CONTRACT [ContractName1]
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF;
SELECT @conversation_handle AS ConversationHandle
I haven't noticed any problems with doing this but I wanted to know if there was anything wrong with it. Does someone know what problems this might cause?
In Service Broker Message Dialog Security Is Not Available For This Conversation...
Jul 23, 2007when ever I send my message thru Service Broker I am getting an error message like this "
"Dialog security is not available for this conversation because there is no remote service binding for the target service. Create a remote service binding, or specify ENCRYPTION = OFF in the BEGIN DIALOG statement."
This I found in sys.transmission_queue
Please reply with your comments
Conversation Handle Reuse And Conversation Handle XXX Not Found
Jan 18, 2008
We have implemented our service broker architecture using conversation handle reuse per MS/Remus's recommendations. We have all of the sudden started receiving the conversation handle not found errors in the sql log every hour or so (which makes perfect sense considering the dialog timer is set for 1 hour). My question is...is this expected behavior when you have employed conversation recycling? Should you expect to see these messages pop up every hour, but the logic in the queuing proc says to retry after deleting from your conversation handle table so the messages is enqueued as expected?
Second question...i think i know why we were not receiving these errors before and wanted to confirm this theory as well. In the queuing proc I was not initializing the variable @Counter to 0 so when it came down to the retry logic it could not add 1 to null so was never entering that part of the code...I am guessing with this set up it would actually output the error to the application calling the queueing proc and NOT into the SQL error logs...is this a correct assumption?
I have attached an example of one of the queuing procs below:
Code Block
DECLARE @conversationHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER,
@err int,
@counter int,
@DialogTimeOut int,
@Message nvarchar(max),
@SendType int,
@ConversationID uniqueidentifier
select @Counter = 0 -- THIS PART VERY IMPORTANT LOL :)
select @DialogTimeOut = Value
from dbo.tConfiguration with (nolock)
where keyvalue = 'ConversationEndpoints' and subvalue = 'DeleteAfterSec'
WHILE (1=1)
BEGIN
-- Lookup the current SPIDs handle
SELECT @conversationHandle = [handle] FROM tConversationSPID with (nolock)
WHERE spid = @@SPID and messagetype = 'TestQueueMsg';
IF @conversationHandle IS NULL
BEGIN
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
FROM SERVICE [InitiatorQueue_SER]
TO SERVICE 'ReceiveTestQueue_SER'
ON CONTRACT [TestQueueMsg_CON]
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF;
BEGIN CONVERSATION TIMER ( @conversationHandle )
TIMEOUT = @DialogTimeOut
-- insert the conversation in the association table
INSERT INTO tConversationSPID
([spid], MessageType,[handle])
VALUES
(@@SPID, 'TestQueueMsg', @conversationHandle);
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
MESSAGE TYPE [TestQueueMsg] (@Message)
END
ELSE IF @conversationHandle IS NOT NULL
BEGIN
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
MESSAGE TYPE [TestQueueMsg] (@Message)
END
SELECT @err = @@ERROR;
-- if succeeded, exit the loop now
IF (@err = 0)
BREAK;
SELECT @counter = @counter + 1;
IF @counter > 10
BEGIN
-- Refer to http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164086.aspx for severity levels
EXEC spLogMessageQueue 20002, 8, 'Failed to SEND on a conversation for more than 10 times. Error %i.'
BREAK;
END
-- We tried on the said conversation, but failed
-- remove the record from the association table, then
-- let the loop try again
DELETE FROM tConversationSPID
WHERE [spid] = @@SPID;
SELECT @conversationHandle = NULL;
END;
Closing A Conversation Later On And Microsoft Service Broker Interface (sample)
Oct 24, 2006In a messaging application, a client sends a message to the server. The server uses Service Broker Interface, and is CLR based. On the server, the message has a life cycle - going throughout multiple transitions until is final (Pending, In Transit, Delivered, TimedOut, Undeliverable). As the server receives the message, it sends back to the client a reply status message of In Transit. It does so using the same message€™s conversation. It also saves €“ along with the message €“ its conversation handle. The dialog is not closed. After a while, the server may decide that the message has gotten to a final state (Delivered or TimedOut). I would like at that time to send a reply status message (Final State) back to the client and also close the conversation. The conversation handle has been saved by both, client and server. Having the conversation handle available - how do I get back to the client later on?
Thanks,
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Sep 10, 2007How to prevent the hang on the initator service broker if the target service broker is not started?
Our case has two service brokers (two databases), sometime, the target is need to turn off. But the sitation is the initator service broker (in fact, the message is sent from triggers) become hang, I want to prevent this case and continue to operation, and the messages should queue and will continue to send to target service broker when it startup. How should I do?
Reusing A Single Conversation Handle
Aug 30, 2007Hi
I have a replicated table that has a trigger attached to the it. The trigger fires off a service broker message for inserts. Originally for every insert, I would begin a conversation, send, and end the conversation when target send an end conversation. Since replication process is only using a single spid, I would like to reuse 1 conversation. the following is what I have for the send procedure in the initiator. I check the conversation_endpoints for any open conversation, if it's null, I start a new conversation and send else just send with the existing conversation. Is there anything wrong with this code? What could cause the conversation on the initiator to be null if I never end the conversation on the initiator side? thanks
DECLARE @dialog_handle uniqueidentifier
select @dialog_handle = conversation_handle from sys.conversation_endpoints where state = 'CO'
IF @dialog_handle is NULL
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @dialog_handle
FROM SERVICE [initiator]
TO SERVICE 'target'
ON CONTRACT [portcontract];
SEND ON CONVERSATION @dialog_handle
MESSAGE TYPE [Port] (@msg)
Problem With A Server Broker Conversation Between Two Instances
Feb 1, 2007I have a problem with a server broker conversation between two instances on the same machine.
I have used Server Listning Manager to setup the communication between the instances.
When i a try to send a dialog it stops in sys.transmissin_queue and transmission_status is "The Service Broker protocol transport cannot listen on port 4022 because it is in use by another process."
Can someone help me
/ Dan Svensson
Recycling Conversations - Locking When Trying To Insert New Conversation Handle To SessionConversations Table
Feb 8, 2008
Hi,
I have implemented Remus Resanu's implementation from the Recycling Conversations article and I am experiencing locking issue when I try to insert new conversation handles to the SessionConversations table. I have copied the code in the article exactly including the activation procedure. Any ideas why I may be locking. I am thinking it is related to the HOLDLOCK hint on the table.
The sepcific line where I see locking is directly from the article:
INSERT INTO [SessionConversations] (SPID, FromService, ToService, OnContract, Handle) VALUES (...etc)
Thanks
The SQL Server Service Broker For The Current Database Is Not Enabled, And As A Result Query Notifications Are Not Supported. Please Enable The Service Broker For This Database If You Wish To Use Notifications.
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Mar 30, 2007I am trying to send a message between to SQL Server 2005 instances on two different machines. I have checked all my routes and all my objects appear to be setup correctly. However, when running Profiler on the target machine, I receive the "This message has been dropped because the TO service could not be found. Service name: "[tcp://mydomain.com/TARGET/MyService]". Message origin: "Transport". This is my activated stored procedure that is sending the message to the target service. I am using certificate security. Any help appreciated....
CREATE PROCEDURE [usp_ProcessMessage]
AS
BEGIN
SET NOCOUNT ON;
DECLARE @conversation_handle uniqueidentifier
DECLARE @message_body AS VARBINARY(MAX)
WHILE (1=1)
BEGIN
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
WAITFOR(RECEIVE TOP (1)
@conversation_handle = conversation_handle,
@message_body = message_body
FROM [tcp://mydomain.com/INITIATE/MyQueue]
), TIMEOUT 1000;
IF (@@ROWCOUNT = 0)
BEGIN
COMMIT;
BREAK;
END
END CONVERSATION @conversation_handle
IF @message_body IS NOT NULL
BEGIN
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @conversation_handle
FROM SERVICE [tcp://mydomain.com/INITIATE/MyService]
TO SERVICE '[tcp://mydomain.com/TARGET/MyService]'
ON CONTRACT [tcp://mydomain.com/INITIATE/MyMessage/v1.0]
WITH ENCRYPTION = ON, LIFETIME = 600;
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversation_handle
MESSAGE TYPE [tcp://mydomain.com/TARGET/VisitMessage]
(@message_body);
END
COMMIT;
END
END
GO
My endpoints are created like so:
CREATE ENDPOINT MyEndpoint
STATE = STARTED
AS TCP
(
LISTENER_PORT = 4022
)
FOR SERVICE_BROKER (AUTHENTICATION = CERTIFICATE MasterCertificate)
GO
GRANT CONNECT TO CertOwner
GRANT CONNECT ON ENDPOINT::MyEndpoint TO CertOwner
GO
And my routes like so:
GRANT SEND ON SERVICE::[tcp://mydomain.com/INITIATE/MyService] TO CertOwner
GO
CREATE REMOTE SERVICE BINDING [MyCertificateBinding]
TO SERVICE '[tcp://mydomain.com/TARGET/MyService]'
WITH USER = CertOwner,
ANONYMOUS=OFF
CREATE ROUTE [tcp://mydomain.com/INITIATE/MyRoute]
WITH SERVICE_NAME = '[tcp://mydomain.com/TARGET/MyService]',
BROKER_INSTANCE = N'xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx',
ADDRESS = N'TCP://xxx.xx.xx.xx:4022'
GO
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I like the concept of Activation that Service Broker provides. But, from what I am reading most of the documentation describes activation as a way to call another stored proc. I definitely dont' want to do any process intensive work on the SQL server. So here comes my question...
How would I use a windows service to listen to the activation event from the Service Broker. I could have multiple windows services watching the same queue (scalable). Would I have to handle collisions myself? If so, I think I would rather keep it simple, and just use a simple table as my queue.
Thanks for your comments in advance...
Vijay.
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Jul 3, 2007Hi all
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CREATE QUEUE SentQueue
WITH
STATUS=ON, RETENTION=OFF;
CREATE QUEUE ReceivedQueue
WITH
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CREATE SERVICE SentService ON QUEUE SentQueue
(MQContract);
CREATE SERVICE ReceivedService ON QUEUE ReceivedQueue
(MQContract);
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
CREATE TRIGGER [dbo].[insertTrigger]
ON [dbo].[tblBBB] FOR INSERT AS
BEGIN
SET NOCOUNT ON;
DECLARE @handle uniqueidentifier
DECLARE @msgBody nvarchar(500)
select @msgBody = someString from inserted
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