Set Primary Key When Normalizing Data?

Apr 27, 2006

Greetings all,

I have created an SSIS package that takes data from a very large table (301 columns) and puts it in a new database in smaller tables. I am using views to control what data goes to the new tables. I also specified that it drop the destination table and recreate it prior to copying the data. The reason for this is so that old data removed from the larger database will get removed from the normalized databases.

I have 2 things I am trying to figure out..

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2. I decided I wanted to sort the data as it copies. I am using the BI Visual Studio for my editing. In the Data Flow view I cannot seem to disconnect the output from the Source block so I can connect it to the Sort block and then feed that to the output block. What am I missing here?



Thanks

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I am a beginner, so please bare with me. I get very confused on how to normalize my database.

Firstly: The employees in the company I work for are in various departments and can have more then one title and work in more then one department.

Example: John Smith can work in the engineering department as a detailer and an engineer and at the same time work as a project manager for the management department.

How do I setup this table structure?


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---------------------------------------------
jsmith | John | Smith | 280

Department Title Breakdown
Department | Title
--------------------------
Engineering | Detailer
Engineering | Engineer
Management | ProjectManager

Job Description
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-------------------------
jsmith | Engineer
jsmith | Detailer
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Or should the project be broken down as well

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