Size Of MASTER & MSDB
Oct 13, 1999
We're just in the process of moving to 7.0, although SQL 7 has the autogrow feature we'd prefer to size MASTER and MSDB properly in the first place to avoid disk fragmentation. Does anyone have an experience/suggestions as to appropriate sizes, particulary for MASTER?
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Mar 22, 2001
Hi All,
I am working on a third party client product which shrinks all the databases in MS SqlServer based on the rule or parameter that is set. This product will be used in production server which has MS SqlServer 7.0.
My question is: Is it advisable to shrink Master,Model and Msdb databases in an production environment? Please give the reasons.
Thanks
Sri
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Nov 10, 2005
I have a server attached to a SAN, all user db's are on the SAN, master, tempdb, and msdb are on the local machine. We will be replacing the machine (not the SAN) to a newer sql server. Our plan was to create the new server with same name, deattach current user db's,backup master and msdb, then connect new server with same name an IP to SAN. I then wanted to restore the master and msdb db's to the new machine, and attach the user db's. We are running log shipping to a stand-by server in this configuration. I was thinking I could let last tran log backup and copy occur, and then let the last restore happen on the standby. I would then shut down the agent. Should I not be able to restore the MSDB and master to the new server (as long as all file folder locations are the same) and be ready to go? Or are there issues when restoring the Master and MSDB to a new server from a different server.
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Mar 1, 1999
Hello:
I am in the process of setting up a dbcc checkdb and dbcc newalloc job for the user database in production. Do I need to include master and msdb to have checkdb and msdb run against them daily?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
David Spaisman
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Jun 29, 2007
Will I encounter any issues running DBCC CHECKDB on either msdb or master?
Thanks!
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Nov 3, 2003
When SQLserver2K was installed it placed master, model, msdb, tempdb data files in the installation location (i.e. C:Program Files....). This puts pressure on the C: drive, which also holds the page/swapfile. I want to move at least the tempdb location to the new 'Default data directory' and log directory we set after installation (i.e. E:MSSQLData).
How do I get tempdb to relocate to E: given that it gets recreated each time SQLserver starts?
TIA,
Al
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Mar 18, 2008
How to move master , model and msdb database to some other location. Can we overwrite the master, model and msdb files
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Jul 20, 2006
Hi Guys,
Since,You cannot mirror the master, msdb, tempdb, or model databases.What will happen if i create new login,change existing security profile and new jobs,change of existing job on princicpal db. how these will be mirrored to other server and in case failover, how it will treat.
Thaks
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Hi all
What is best Disaster/Recovery methode to securing the system databases.
Master database allows only Full backup
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Oct 10, 2014
On a 2008r2 server, I ran the frag utility against master and msdb and noticed they were severely fragmented.
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Aug 26, 2015
I executed the below query and getting the capacity values only for master database.All other DB shows NULL values for spaceused. I'm actually looking for a query to get all the capacity information other than using temp table and the procedures. Is there any way using SQL query ONLY.
select
db.[dbid] as 'DB ID',
db.[name] as 'Database Name',
af.[name] as 'Logical Name',
convert(decimal(12,2),round(size/128.000,2)) as FileSizeMB,Â
convert(decimal(12,2),round(fileproperty(db.name,'SpaceUsed')/128.000,2)) as SpaceUsedMB
from sys.sysdatabases db
inner join sys.sysaltfiles af
on db.dbid = af.dbid
Below is the output
DB ID Database Name
Logical Name FileSizeMB
SpaceUsedMB
1 master
master 4.00
3.44
1 master
mastlog 2.00
[Code] ....
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Nov 21, 2005
Whenever I start my SQL Express 2005 database, I get the following in the logs :
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Sep 4, 2007
I am trying to resize a database initial log file from 500M to 2M. I€™m using€?
ALTER DATABASE <DBNAME> MODIFY FILE ( NAME = <DBLOGFILENAME, SIZE = 2 ) "
And I'm getting "MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size." I tried going into the database properties and setting the log file to 2M, but it doesn€™t keep the changes.
Any help with this process?
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I got a File with sales orders and their details.
Step 1. First I am filtering the Sales Order information and inserting it in my Sales Orders table.
Step 2.Then I am filtering the details from the sales Order and inserting them in the respective table.
My Problem is that the Sales Order File does not contain the Sales Order key (ID), this is generated by the SQL Server. How can get it in order to use it in the second step? I need it because it is a foreign key in the details table.
Any Idea?
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native_error=5039, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size.
I'll try to post the full log in a new post.
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Mar 25, 2008
Hello,
I'm new to SQL and need help with a query. Not sure if this is the right place.
I have 2 tables, one MASTER and one DETAIL.
The MASTER table has a masterID, name and the DETAIL table has a detailID, masterID, and value columns.
I want to return a populated MASTER table with entries based on the DETAIL.value.
SELECT MASTER.*
FROM MASTER
WHERE DETAIL.value > 3
This is a simplified version of my problem. I can't figure out how to set the relationship between MASTER.masterID and DETAIL.masterID. If I do an INNER JOIN, the number of results are based on the number of DETAIL entries. I only want one entry per MASTER entry.
Hope this makes sense.
How can I do this?
GrkEngineer
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Mar 16, 2007
Hi folks,Can anyone enlighten me here? I'm trying to use a SPROC which, when supplied with an int, looks up the table and returns certain columns from it. I'm using a SqlCommand, here's my codebehind: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SqlCommand dataSource = new SqlCommand("retrieveData", new SqlConnection(dbConnString)); dataSource .CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure; dataSource .Parameters.AddWithValue("id", poid); dataSource .Parameters.AddWithValue("title", title).Direction = ParameterDirection.Output; dataSource .Parameters.AddWithValue("creator", creator).Direction = ParameterDirection.Output; dataSource .Parameters.AddWithValue("assignee", assignee).Direction = ParameterDirection.Output; etc, etc... And the SPROC:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------set ANSI_NULLS ONset QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ONGOALTER PROCEDURE [dbo].[retrieveData] @id int, @title varchar(50) OUTPUT, @creator varchar(50) OUTPUT, @assignee varchar(50) OUTPUT, @contact varchar(50) OUTPUT, @deliveryCost numeric(18,2) OUTPUT, @totalCost numeric(18,2) OUTPUT, @status tinyint OUTPUT, @project smallint OUTPUT, @supplier smallint OUTPUT, @creationDateTime datetime OUTPUT, @amendedDateTime datetime OUTPUT, @locked bit OUTPUT AS /**SET NOCOUNT ON; **/ SELECT [title] AS [@title], [datetime] AS [@creationDateTime], [creator] AS [@creator], [assignee] as [@assignee], [supplier] as [@supplier], [contact] AS [@contact], [delivery_cost] AS [@deliveryCost], [total_cost] AS [@totalCost], [amended_timestamp] AS [@amendedDateTime], [locked] AS [@locked] FROM purchase_orders WHERE [id] = @id; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The id being passed in is definately not null, and is set to a value of an item I know exists. The resulting error is:
Exception Details: System.InvalidOperationException: String[1]: the Size property has an invalid size of 0.Line 63: retrievePODetails.Connection.Open();Line 64: retrievePODetails.ExecuteNonQuery();[InvalidOperationException: String[1]: the Size property has an invalid size of 0.] System.Data.SqlClient.SqlParameter.Validate(Int32 index) +717091... ... Can anyone see anything I'm missing? Thanks,Ally
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Nov 14, 2007
Using C#, SQL Server 2005, ASP.NET 2, in a web app, I've tried removing the size from parameters of type NCHAR, NVARCHAR, and VARCHAR. I'd rather just send a string and let the size of the parameter in the SP truncate any extra chars if need be. I began getting the error below, and eventually realized it happened only with output parameters, as in the code snippet below.String[3]: the Size property has an invalid size of 0. par = new SqlParameter("@BusinessEntity", SqlDbType.NVarChar); par.Direction = ParameterDirection.Output; cmd.Parameters.Add(par); cmd.ExecuteNonQuery();What's the logic behind this? Is there any way around it other than either finding out what the size should be, or assigning a size larger than would ever be needed? ThanksMike Thomas
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Jul 25, 2007
I have one db test with one .mdf and .ldf file...mdf file size is 100mb and for some reson i removed all the tablesfrom that .mdf file and transfer it into new secondary file so all thetables moved into secondary file now i want to reduce the first .mdffile from 100 mb to 50mb is that possible,it's showing 90mb is free.Please reply
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Jan 24, 2006
I want to know encrypted data's size for designing database field size.
For example, cardnumber varchar(20) Encrypted by Triple_DES and PassPhrase, How match size does need to encrypted data store field.
I think the size does not depend to PassPhrase char length.
Regards,
Yoshihiro Kawabata
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Dec 11, 2007
I am getting error to run stored procedure using executenonquery method. The Stored Procedure is having OUTPUT parameter.
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Jul 23, 2005
Just wanted to know what is a general rule of thumb when determining log file space against a database's data file.We allow our data file for our database to grow 10%, unlimited. We do not allow our log file to autogrow due to a specific and poorly written process (which we are in a three month process of remove) that can balloon the log file size.Should it be 10% of the Data file, i.e. if the Date file size is 800MB the log file should be 8MB?I realize there are a myraid of factors that go against file size but a general starting point would be nice.ThanksJeff--Message posted via http://www.sqlmonster.com
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Apr 20, 2015
The Tabular model is showing 19 GB on disk, but it is acquiring around 40 GB in memory.
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Feb 15, 2000
Hi,
An MSSQL DB running SAP indicates a smaller DB size (MMC & SAP) than the actual physical size. The difference is about 8 GB.
A lot of records were deleted before this. Did they remain in the DB as NULL values or something ?
Does anyone know what the reason for this could be ? And how to clean this up ?
Thanks in advance,
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Mar 2, 2008
Hi,
i use this script that show me the size of each table and do the sum of all the table size.
SELECT
X.[name],
REPLACE(CONVERT(varchar, CONVERT(money, X.[rows]), 1), '.00', '') AS [rows],
REPLACE(CONVERT(varchar, CONVERT(money, X.[reserved]), 1), '.00', '') AS [reserved],
REPLACE(CONVERT(varchar, CONVERT(money, X.[data]), 1), '.00', '') AS [data],
REPLACE(CONVERT(varchar, CONVERT(money, X.[index_size]), 1), '.00', '') AS [index_size],
REPLACE(CONVERT(varchar, CONVERT(money, X.[unused]), 1), '.00', '') AS [unused]
FROM
(SELECT
CAST(object_name(id) AS varchar(50)) AS [name],
SUM(CASE WHEN indid < 2 THEN CONVERT(bigint, [rows]) END) AS [rows],
SUM(CONVERT(bigint, reserved)) * 8 AS reserved,
SUM(CONVERT(bigint, dpages)) * 8 AS data,
SUM(CONVERT(bigint, used) - CONVERT(bigint, dpages)) * 8 AS index_size,
SUM(CONVERT(bigint, reserved) - CONVERT(bigint, used)) * 8 AS unused
FROM sysindexes WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE sysindexes.indid IN (0, 1, 255)
AND sysindexes.id > 100
AND object_name(sysindexes.id) <> 'dtproperties'
GROUP BY sysindexes.id WITH ROLLUP) AS X
ORDER BY X.[name]
the problem is that the sum of all tables is not the same size when i make a full database backup.
example of this is when i run this query against my database i see a sum of 111,899 KB that they are 111MB,but when
i do full backup to that database the size of this full backup is 1.5GB,why is that and where this size come from?
THX
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We already integrated different client data to MDS with MS Excel plugin, now we want to push back updated or new added record to source database. is it possible do using MDS? Do we have any background sync process to which automatically sync data to and from subscriber and MDS?
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Apr 14, 2015
Here are my scenarios:
We have an application with replicated environment setup on sql server 2012 . Users will have a replica on their machines and they will replicate to the master database. It has 3 subscriptions subscribed to the publications on the master db.
1) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with no sql server on it. After the initial synchronization(used replmerge tool) the mdf file has grown to 33gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studion . Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 84 gb with little empty free space available.
2) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with sql server 2008 on it. After the initial synchronization(used replmerge tool) the mdf file has grown to 49 gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studio , Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 90 gb with 16 gb free space available.
3) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with sql server 2012 on it. We have dropped the local database and recreated the local db and did the initial synchronization using replmerge tool. The mdf file has grown to 49 gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studio , Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 90 gb with 16 gb free space available.
Why it is allocating the space differently? This is effecting our initial replica set up times.
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Jan 15, 2002
Hello
I have a very large base msdb, I do not arrive has to purify it with sp_delete_backuphistory, it is much too long, have another solution? thank you
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May 10, 2001
Hi ,
I am facing a paculiar problem.I got some jobs scheduled in MSDB.They are running fine for some time. Yesterday when i tried to open the properties of a job from EM i am getting an error 'Select Into Bulk copy option not enabled'
Can anyone got this before? I appreciate if any one can throw some thoughts on this.
thanks in advancce
MM
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Nov 6, 2000
I know that msdb is used to manage the job schedulers in sql server 7.0 ( job agent ). Does this (msdb) like other databases, where I can control its size, shrink it or expand it.
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Jun 15, 2000
Does anyone know how to fix this message?
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Thanks
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Jun 6, 2002
Hi ,
I have a job called JOBA scheduled to run every 10 min.
Is there a way in Tsql that I can find out whether the job is currently running or not.Is there any table/field in msdb database that gives me the desired info.
TIA,
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Dec 18, 2007
My MSDB is too big [about 14 GB]. When I closely looked all tables, here is what I found -
Top 3 biggest tables are -
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sysmail_mailitems - records - 14227 data - 126208 KB
I am not a DBA, so if any one can explain in simple terms how I can cleanup this maintenance plan log detail without increasing the size of tempdb? How can I stop this database growing in the future?
I have only a gig of space left on that drive.
Thanks in advance
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