Sizing An OLAP Server
Apr 16, 2008
Hi there,
We are experiencing some contention of resources between our RDBMS and our OLAP environment; both SQL2005; so we are going to put the OLAP side of life onto another seperate box. Therefore I need to work out what sort of requirements we are going to need; and this is where i have no idea.
I have had a look at the HP sizers, however this is looking primarily at normal RDBMS setups rather than specifically for OLAP. Is there any specifics that I need to consider/nail down before working this out?
To give you an idea:
We currently have 210 million rows in our main fact table, and each row is averaging about 330 bytes
The size of our current OLAP database is only 4GB
It appears as though we are currently getting anywhere between 6 and 20-30 concurrent users
Considering the above; I would have thought a dual core cpu setup (maybe x2) with 8-10GB of ram would have been the ticket?
Now I have done a server sizing exercise for a normal SQL2005 installation; considering temp db on seperate spindles to the log and database tables etc; but what sort of considerations do I need to do for a server running SSAS?
Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can offer on this front
Regards
Troy
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Mar 31, 1999
We are considering migrating our Oracle database over to SQLserver 7.0. I'd like to do some sizing estimates, but I have not been able find any methods for sizing SQL server 7.0 databases. There didn't seem to be any calculation guidlines or formulas in the manual or the online documentation. The only formulas I have found on the WEB are for version 6.5. Does anyone have (or know where I can find)formulas that are valid for sizing SQL server 7.0 databases?
Note: an archived message on this site referred to an attachment containing sizing formulas, but the attachment was not accesible.
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HI everybody,
We are designing a system using .NET/ASP.NET and SQL Server (2000 Standard as a customer requirement). The system will be hosted into 2 dedicated servers (an web/application and a db server) and we need to estimate the hardware requirements needed.
Could anyone help me on sizing this? Is there any literature on how to do this? I found some sizing web sites but I'd like to double check them. I already have some estimation on data storage size/growth based on some information I've got from the customer.
Thanks in advance!
Sergio
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Jul 20, 2005
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Jun 18, 2007
Hi there,
I've been searching the net the entire day for accurate information regarding SQL Server
database sizing estimations. I currently need to find an accurate link that will display all of
the data types supported by SQL Server 2005, the characteristics of each data type (Max
and Min Values, etc), and the physical storage size (KB and / or MB) of each data type.
The reason why I want this information is because I want to work out the current size
of each table in a Database as well as all Index sizes, and with the calculated information
predict what size the database will be in a few months and / or years.
It has been quite a mission to find the information, and when you do it isn't very clear at
all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Have a good one,
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Hello All,
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Cheers,
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Could you provide me something similar??
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New SD
------------- ----------- ---------------------------------------- --------
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800901 899-34-3482 John Smith 04/20/20
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400909 144-23-0029 John Smith 04/09/20
04/11/20
447788 445-89-9967 kjl;j;j 04/05/20
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04/15/20
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Please email reply to me at RussLewis@msn.com
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When I use this excel on my machine it works just fine. Any ideas?
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After processing the cube everything works fine.
After changing the fact-table (new rows) the only option is to
process the cube (no incremental update or refresh offered).
OK.
After processing the cube (which sometimes failes) the cube sometimes
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Sometimes during operation with the OLAP-Client(inSight from arcplan)
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Sometimes it is not possible to connect to the cube.
Did anyone have same or other or better experience ?
Keen to discuss !
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displayed:
"Cannot retrieve the repository information from the server [datamartact]."
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:eek:
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OLAP Server SP1
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The error I am getting is the following:
"Error occurred while connecting to machine2
Cannot open the following registry key on the server computer(machine2):
SOFTWAREMicrosoftOlap ServerServer
Connection Info"
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