Solution Explorer And SQL Server

Dec 12, 2005

I am a Visual Studio .net developer and understand Solutions and Projects in VS.net.  Nevertheless, it appears that the paradigm of using Solutions Explorer in SQL Server is not exactly the same.  That is, in Visual Studio you can't get anything done without creating a solution first.  In SQL Server, it is entirely possible to get a lot done without a solution and the ability to create and make use of a solution seems almost an after thought or an add-on.
I am particularly interested in using a solution in SQL Server to allow me to make use of SourceSafe.  In the past, we jumped through all kinds of hoops to keep a running trail of changes we had made to (for example) stored procedures.  It appears now that this can be managed more efficiently with the use of a Solution and SourceSafe and saving scripts or .sql files.  I guess it is not possible to save a pristine copy of a stored procedure directly in SourceSafe, but you can save the code that makes up the stored procedure as a .SQL file which I suppose is about as good.
Anyway, what I would like to know is whether there is a good white paper (or chapter in a book) on the philosophy behind Solutions and projects in SQL Server and how MS intends us to use them; perhaps something other than the cold facts from the documentation.  I would appreciate something more that gives me the big picture on just how MS sees them being used in SQL Server so I can get the most out of them.  I have the feeling that if I "get the vision", they are meant to be an integral part of SQL Server now and in the future.
Woody

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Getting caught out on this issue for the 10th time!
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I've tried it and it doesn't work for me.

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If you have a step-by-step procedure that can be reproduced this properly please PM me.

I would like to test its validity then update this exact post as a solution rather than just another dicussion thread.

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NOTE 2: DO NOT hand copy the database to a folder/directory in your project.

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NOW add some quick junk data that you WILL intentionally loose.

*** DO NOT *** press the save icon.

Just Exit the app.

3) Again, Run the app.

Verify that the first record is still there.

Verify that the Second record is NOT there.
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Proving that YOU MUST CLICK THE SAVE ICON to save the data you just entered.

Also proving you must add your own code to catch the changes
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Whewh!

I hope this saves me some time the next time I want to start a new database project.

Oh, and uh, for anyone else reading this post.

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