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Hi,

I have the following scenario:
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Are there any solutions out there for that? I found that most tools like slony only mirror one master database to multiple slaves, but I want every database to be able to be the starting point.
There could also be a central sync server, like in subversion..

Greets,
Patrick

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Hi,

I have a scenario which I need to implement at my work.

I need to maintain one Central SQL Server DB and multiple non central SQL Server DBs at different locations. Here the same DB schema is maintained at Center & non Central SQL Servers. The requirement is: each non central DB has to synchronize with the central DB and has to update the Central DB with the changes made locally.

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CREATE TABLE Categories (CategoryId INT, CategoryText NVARCHAR(512))

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As
Begin
...
End

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As
Begin
...
End

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As
Begin
...
End

This procedure should the the following:

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2 .Use the function CSVTable that returns a table with all the categories contained in @ArticleCategories.

I think the easiest way is to delete all the categories from ArticleId as it is done in DeleteArticle.

Then It creates the new categories as it is done in CreateArticle.

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1 Game ended 1-1

2 Book Review

3 Book launched at sports event

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CategoryId CategoryText

1 Sports

2 Entertainment

3 Business

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ArticleId CategoryId

1 1

2 2

3 2

3 3

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ArticleId ArticleText

1 Game ended 1-1

2 Book Review

3 Book launched at sports event

Categories Table
CategoryId CategoryText

1 Sports

2 Entertainment

4 Tech

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ArticleId CategoryId

1 1

2 2

3 1

3 4


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1 Game ended 1-1

2 Book Review

Categories Table
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2 Entertainment

CategoriesInArticles Table

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2 2

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I have been trying my code, either by creating a separate procedure named SynchronizeCategories or inside the Create, Delete and Update procedure.

Until now I was not able to make this work.

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WHERE c.CategoryId IS NULL

DELETE c
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