TLog Backup Then Start Log Shipping
Apr 9, 2008
Hello,
I have an SQL 2005 maintenance plan that backups up the t-logs of my production db every 15 minutes. I want to begin log shipping over to a warm-standby secondary server. The network share, log shipping folder is not the same folder location as my maintenance plan folder. My question is, do I need to disable the maintenance plan for tlog backups in order for log shipping to be sucessful? Or will the dual backups to seperate backup folder locations cause a failure in the secondary server restore process?
I suspect the latter but wanted a second opinion.
Thanks.
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Mar 15, 2007
If I create an adhoc db backup that takes, say 30 miuntes to complete, should I suspend the tran log backups that run every 10 minutes, until the full backup is complete?
Drew
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Mar 21, 2007
I am considering some disaster recovery scenarios.
Lets assume my MDF is gone - the disks are dead.
The LDF is on a different disk channel. Lets assume its fine.
Can I make a "final" TLog backup from the "good" LDF file?
Maybe copy some-earlier-MDF file into place, would that enable a TLog backup from the LDF file?
'Coz if I can then I could use that as a route to getting a zero-loss recovery - make a final TLog backup, and then restore the whole lot from last FULL + All TLog backups thereafter.
Kristen
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Feb 25, 2015
I have a SQL Server 2012 DB in Full recovery mode that has never had a TLOG backup. the log is huge 200+GB.
I tried doing a transaction log backup but there is not enough space on the Disk.
How can I reclaim this log space in SQL Server 2012?
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Dec 5, 2007
Hi all,
We have log shipping set up for some our databases.
So, my question is, Can i take a FULL BACKUP of databases which are involved in log shiping at primary.
--> Please give your comments on this.
Thanks.
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May 29, 2008
Does anyone know if you can delete the initial backup file created (xxx_init.bak) on the secondary server after setting up Log Shipping?
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Jan 17, 2008
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to configure log shipping on a 2005 sql server. I follow the wizard's instructions (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190640.aspx) and everything looks right except for the backup job that somehow is not being created on the primary server. Secondary server contains copy, restore and alert jobs.
No errors reported on job monitor.
Any ideas?
Regards,
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Jul 14, 2007
Hi!
i have a question regarding tail log backup.
I have set up logshipping between primary and secondary servers. Now when i want to fail-over to secondary, I am planning to take the tail log backup on primary
backup log primarydb
to disk=N'..',
with norecovery
and then I will restore this tail log backup to secondary
restore log secondarydb
from disk=N'',
with recovery
Will there be any issue with this approach?
Will I be able to recovery the primarydb if i want to, in future? Taking tail log backup doesnt cause any issues? Or do i need to take the full backup of primary before I take tail log backup..in case if I can not recover the primary db after taking the log backup?
How big the tail log backup can be? Will it be of similar size of other normal transactional log backups.?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Dec 8, 2006
Hey all-
I am working to establish a backup plan for SQL Server 2000. We are currently doing log shipping between servers.
A full backup once a week
transaction log backup every hour
We run a bulk deletion (delete * from table where date < ninetydays) which deletes 22,000 rows approximately. We are running in Full Recovery mode.
I wonder if there was anyway to improve my backup plan, preferably minimizing logging when the deletion takes place but still backup the data with log shipping.
Let me know if any of you have ideas. Thanks
Nate
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Dec 19, 2007
We have a critical Production database on which we want to setup Log-Shipping. We have also purchased the Symantec NetBackup utility for taking Backup to Tape Drives.
We Know that there are some inherent problems with using Log-Shipping and a Backup Strategy together, and thus we were finding out various ways in which we can run both in tandem.
One of them was taking the Symantec Log backups with Copy-Only option.
The main problem with this is that the Symantec Backups becomes dependent on the Log-Shipping Backups and also most of their Log-Backups become useless. Also, we are not sure whether the utility allows Copy-Only backups
The second alternative was to disable the Backup job of Log-Shipping on the Primary Server and to use the Log-Backups done by the Symantec utility for performing the Restores on the Secondary.
Thus, if Log-Shipping is scheduled to run say every 4 hrs, and the Symantec Log-backup happens every 1 hour, then at an interval of every 4 hrs, the Restore Job on the secondary will pick up the 4 backups done by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore each one of them in sequential manner.
But, I guess it is not easy to have a manual Restore Policy in place.
I was really banking on this solution until I found that the Restore Job of the Log-Shipping setup is dependent on the Filename of the Transaction log file which the systems generates automatically, and it won€™t be easy to create a customized Restore Job on the secondary server which takes in all the Log Backups generated by the Symantec Backup utility and Restore the Secondary database.
Have any one of you ever face this issue? Would like to know what is the best way to keep both of them running together.
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Feb 1, 2008
Hi
Im planning to setup sqlserver 2005 log shipping between two servers.The size of the database is around 50GB and we are taking transaction log backup and shipping at 30mins interval.
Suppose if the backup job couldnt take the transaction log backup with in the specified interval ie 30mins,then how does the copy and restore job works. Will it give an error saying tht the transaction log could nt be copied and restored ???
How to deal with this kind of situations where the backup is taking more time than the threshold time limit and ur copy,restore fails. Is there a way to handle this kind of situation in logshipping Sqlserver 2005.
and how does it affect the Secondary database. ??
Please help me out !!
Thnkx in advance
Regards
Arvind L
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May 29, 2007
I have a 20 GB SS2005 database that I would like to be replicated to a dev server for testing purposes. I might have some issues with the firewall blocking ports. I haven't read up on the specifics of how log shipping works yet, but I assume that is the best approach. A daily transfer would suffice.
A few options I am considering:
1. use the built in stuff, but I'm not sure it will work with our security settings, and if the trans logs are large it might be strained.
2. writing a small custom app to zip up the log file then ftp them down to the dev server. This could run nightly.
3. some third party util, such as FolderShare could transfer the log files
Any comments or suggestions?
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Feb 13, 2008
I have setup Log shipping between two SQL 2005 servers, and everything seems to be working well. The files are transferring and restoring correctly.
My question is whether I need to add any backup procedures for the secondary server to prevent the secondary server's log file size from growing continuously. Should I be doing a transaction log backup on the secondary server? Or will that break the Log chain?
If it makes a difference, the secondary server is in Standby mode after applying the logs.
Any advice would be appreciated,
~ Michelle
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May 14, 2007
Suppose I have a 3rd party SQL backup software to backup my databases, can I also setup a stand-by server for log shipping?
I'm not sure if this is possible? If not, is SQL mirroring a choice instead of log shipping?
Thanks a lot!
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Jun 23, 2007
I'm experiencing a weird problem with log shipping in SQL 2005.
I've setup Log Shipping for a production database between two sites. The standby database is being updated correctly and everything seems to be working as expected but for one detail: the name of the transaction log backups are generated with an UTC timestamp instead of my local timezone.
The the data below extracted from the backup history:
2007-06-23 17:30:00.000 D:BackupDatabasesmydbmydb_20070623073000.trn
2007-06-23 17:15:00.000 D:BackupDatabasesmydbmydb_20070623071500.trn
2007-06-23 17:00:00.000 D:BackupDatabasesmydbmydb_20070623070000.trn
2007-06-23 16:45:00.000 D:BackupDatabasesmydbmydb_20070623064500.trn
My timezone here is GMT+10.
Although it's not affecting Log Shipping, it's very confusing as the full backups have a timestamp in the local timezone!
Has anyone seen experienced something similar to this? Please see below my SQL details:
1 ProductName NULL Microsoft SQL Server
2 ProductVersion 589824 9.00.3042.00
3 Language 1033 English (United States)
4 Platform NULL NT AMD64
5 Comments NULL NT AMD64
6 CompanyName NULL Microsoft Corporation
7 FileDescription NULL SQL Server Windows NT - 64 Bit
8 FileVersion NULL 2005.090.3042.00
9 InternalName NULL SQLSERVR
10 LegalCopyright NULL © Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved.
11 LegalTrademarks NULL Microsoft® is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Windows(TM) is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation
12 OriginalFilename NULL SQLSERVR.EXE
13 PrivateBuild NULL NULL
14 SpecialBuild 199360512 NULL
15 WindowsVersion 248381957 5.2 (3790)
16 ProcessorCount 4 4
17 ProcessorActiveMask 4 f
18 ProcessorType 8664 NULL
19 PhysicalMemory 4095 4095 (4294037504)
20 Product ID NULL NULL
Thanks,
André
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Sep 25, 2015
I want to redirect the logshipping primary backup folder to another drive, how to change the configurations steps to move the primary logship folder to another location within the same server!
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Sep 24, 2007
Hi!
Maybe this question should be somevere else?
I need to start a backup SP once every 15 min, is there a good way to do that?
Task sceduler or similar?
I am developing in sql-server 2005 but the applications will be used under SQL-server 2000. Maybe there has been changes since that version?
Someone know how to start a SP every 15 min in a easy and trust full way?
Regards
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Oct 2, 2014
I have a scenario where a customer is going to be using Log Shipping to the DR site; however, we need to maintain the normal backup strategy on the current system. (i.e. Nightly Full, Every 6 Hour Differential and Hourly Transaction Log backup)I know how to setup Transaction Log Shipping and Fail-over to DR and backup but now the local backup strategy is going to be an issue. I use the [URL] .... maintenance solution currently.
Is it even possible to do regular backups locally keeping data integrity for your backup strategy with Transaction Log Shipping enabled?
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Apr 22, 2006
Hi nice forum you have here.
Please point me to a link on this forum if I’ve missed something but I could not find an answer to this question yet.
I am new to sql and am looking at running random backups of an sql database. Regular backups are running nightly using maintenance jobs in enterprise manager. These random backups would be started at a point in time just before a specific procedure was run. There will be a user assigned the task of running these backups who has no privilege to log onto the sql server machine (nor will he ever get this privilege).
I would be interested to know if there is a way to script this so that this user could simply start a backup from his workstation. The backup could be a repeat of the scheduled nightly backup storing to the same place or a new backup. The db in question is only 150 +/- MB so time involved in completing this job is minimal (the scheduled backup of this db completes in under a minute).
System is SQL 2000 sp4 on a Win 2003 server with XPpro sp2 clients.
Thanks for any tips, hints or detailed descriptions.
Regards
HT
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Jul 9, 2002
I am getting periodic failures of my Transaction log. SQL
Server 7.0 Service Pack 3 on NT 4.0. IT is not occurring
in a set pattern. I have attached the error. I am unable
to find anything on the Internet or n TechNet can someone
help me out.
Thanks;
Message is as follows:
Microsoft (R) SQLMaint Utility (Unicode),
Version [Microsoft SQL-DMO (ODBC SQLState: HYT00)]
Error 0: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Timeout expired
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Dec 15, 2000
Hi,
My Transaction log has 0% Log Space available. I have performed a dump transaction with no_log but to no effect. I have also extended the log size from
100MB to 200MB and this has not made any inmpression either after several dump database statements also.
The Data Device was 500MB and I extended it to 800MB and again performed a backup. Has anyone any idea how to recover from this situation ?
I can make queries on the data fine but the several backups(and Truncate log) I have made are still not creating any space for my Transaction log.
Please help !
Thanks in advance,
Alan
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Jul 26, 2007
Hi all
Is there anyway to find out using TSQL for the used space VS what is available for TLOG file? Cause the GUI won't allow me [Database] > Report > Disk Usage. It said that Unable to display the report becuase the database has a compatibility level of 80 ?!?!
Thanks
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Jun 3, 2015
Here's my statement below. What I'm trying to get is joining the name column in master.sys.databases with a sub query for the database name, file location and backup start date from the MSDB database. The reason for this, if a new database has never been backed up, It should be returning as a NULL value, which is my goal. However, I'm getting multiple results for the backups.
select CONVERT(CHAR(100), SERVERPROPERTY('Servername')) AS Server,a.name,File_Location=b.physical_device_name,backup_start_date=max(backup_start_date)
from master.sys.databases a
left join(select c.database_name,backup_start_date=max(backup_start_date),b.physical_device_name
from msdb.dbo.backupmediafamily b join msdb.dbo.backupset c on c.media_set_id=c.backup_set_id
where c.type='D'
[Code] .....
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Aug 22, 2003
recently i noticed that my trans Log size is not increasing(it is constant) , but the databse size is increasing at high speed.
why is it so? earlier the reverse used to happen i.e databse size increased only after a certain period. and log size increased at const. rate.
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Jun 3, 2007
With Migrating from SQL 2000 to SQL 2005 I realise that there are a few options available.
A SQL 2000 backup is able to be restored into 2005 and is workable however there are some issues with internals that have changed. I have identified some DDL which would need to be modified to work correctly.
If the Backup is restored and left in a recoverable state does 2005 allow for 2000 TLog backups to be restored as well ? I am assuming that as you can restore a full db backup that this is allowed.
I am asking the question as i have a very short and fixed deadline of moving from 2000 to 2005. A new datacentre is being moved to and the old DC is being turned off. all new hardware is being placed in the new DC so i need to move from the old to the new with very little downtime to the DB or app.
My approach is as follows
1. Full DB Backup (2000) copied across to 2005 server and loaded being left in a recoverable state.
2. Tlog backups copied across on scheduled basis and loaded to a point in time.
3. Test new 2005 DB with app/web frontend
4. Bring both in sync again and then perform 1 final Tlog backup, copy and load bringing app online again with very little downtime.
Has anybody tried this approach ? does anybody see any issues with my approach ? all comments welcome on this.
Thx
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Apr 30, 2008
i have a very big database and number of people are working on it.. it's log file size is increaseing very day too much.. i am taking log back every 30mint...
i dont' know that wethare i need to truncate the log file after taking the log file backup or not.. i am taking differentail backup every day and full backup every week...
Please tell me do i need to trucate the log file to reduce the file size or i hv to leave as it....
Thanks..
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Nov 18, 2014
I am in the process of formulating recommendations with respect to the purchase of additional storage for our current SQL 2012 SharePoint (2013) instance. My recommendation is to purchase separate storage (i.e, 15k disks) for the TempDB and Tlogs respectively (two sets of raid 10 disks). Currently, this server is hosting several instances, including SP, using two arrays (one for database and the other for Tlogs).
I am attempting to find information/recommendations on how to go about projecting the amount of storage for each of these while factoring in for growth.
Additional Details:
how to best formulate a reasonable estimate. Our largest content database belongs to IT and is currently ~80GB. That said, this is currently an outlier. The remaining content databases are less than 10GB (most are less than 2-3 GB). However, SharePoint will be used for digital document imaging in addition to, eventually, replacing file shares as our primary document storage medium once we roll it out.
Our current tempDB is ~400MB, but the instance was recently started a few days ago, as we had to failover to our backup server for hardware maintenance. I do not have any historical data on TempDB growth at this time. Also, I don't know how useful this would be given we have not fully deployed yet.
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May 13, 2007
Hi
I could not able to find Forums in regards to 'Log Shipping' thats why posting this question in here. Appriciate if someone can provide me answers depends on their experience.
Can we switch database recovery model when log shipping is turned on ?
We want to switch from Full Recovery to Bulk Logged Recovery to make sure Bulk Insert operations during the after hours load process will have some performance gain.
Is there any possibility of loosing data ?
Thanks
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Nov 8, 2015
I have a vendor database that has a stored procedure that runs a long time.Eventually, the database runs out of log space.
Setting the database to FULL and doing frequent log backups does not work.
The log does not get truncated during this log backups.
The stored procedure in question has SET XACT_ABORT ON statement at the beginning.
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Nov 21, 2014
I've already shrunk the tlog from 350 GB to 313.My DB Server (2008 R2 Sp2) cannot be restarted and the db cannot go offline or detach due to company policy.My DB after changing from full to simple mode still has 313GB tlog file and when I run DBCC OPENTRAN I get Transaction information for database 'DB'.
Replicated Transaction Information:
Oldest distributed LSN : (0:0:0)
Oldest non-distributed LSN : (2882:26:1)
DBCC execution completed. If DBCC printed error messages, contact your system administrator.
Which means this DB is participating in a High Availability process like replication, mirroring or log shipping.
So I run EXEC sp_repldone @xactid = NULL, @xact_segno = NULL, @numtrans = 0, @time = 0, @reset = 1.
This is useful when there are replicated transactions in the transaction log that are no longer valid and you want to truncate the log.
But I get an error:
Msg 18757, Level 16, State 1, Procedure sp_repldone, Line 1
Unable to execute procedure. The database is not published. Execute the procedure in a database that is published for replication.
There are currently 9 connections and all are sleeping.What else can i try in order to shrink the tlog file?
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Jan 3, 2008
I have a 14GB database whose data content is legacy and is described as static. The log file is significantly large and continues to change size mostly increasing by 2-5GB a day (~60GB now) I have observed over the past two days; it shrank once unexpectly by a few GB. The instance is hosting other databases such as: EnterpriseVaultDirectory, EnterpriseVaultMonitoring, EnterpriseVaultStore, and NetPerfMon - might these seemingly unrelated data sources be involved?
I am trying to a trace to find traffic against the tables, no such luck.
Web applications are playing against it for queries but there should be no UPDATEs beign applied. I can only suspect that other unknown applications are performing operations but have yet to find unexplained connections.
Are there any other reasons why this type of log file activity would happen merely due to queries or stored procedure calls?
Lets also state, "mirroring, indexing, replication" are not at play. I know logging "Full" is not necessary as "Simple" should suffice but I am still hunting down why UPDATEs might be getting through. I realize I might adjust the migrated SQL 2000 security model to deny updates to find what breaks but would rather not take that iniative yet.
The installation is a fresh SQL 2005 Standard setup with SP2 applied; the databases were upgraded.
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Jan 14, 2008
Hello
We have set up Log shipping between Primary and Secondary DB. The secondary DB is right now option: Standby/Read-Only. I can not take Backup of Secondary DB now.
Shall we disable Log shipping and change the DB Option to Multi-user mode and take backup? or any different method, without disabling log shipping?
please advice. Thanks in advance.
Jay
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Jun 8, 2006
Hi,
I 'm sure I am missing something obvious, hopefully someone could point it out. After a failover log shipping, I want to fail back to my inital Primary server database; however, my database is marked as loading. How can I mark it as normal?
I did the failover as follow:
I did a failover log shipping from the 2 server Sv1 (Primary) and Sv2 (Secondary) by doing the following
1) Stop the primary database by using sp_change_primary_role (Sv1)
2) Change the 2nd server to primary server by running sp_change_secondary_role (Sv2)
3) Change the monitor role by running sp-change_monitor_role (Sv2)
4) Resolve the log ins - (Sv2)
5) Now I want to fail back - I copy the TRN files to Sv1 - use SQL Ent to restore the database at point in time. The task is done; however, the database is still mark as loading. I could not use sp_dboption.
I appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks in advance
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