Tempdb Initial Size
Mar 3, 2000
We had a runaway query which built the size of tempdb to 24000mb. Then someone changed the unrestricted file growth property to restricted growth while the size was 24000mb. Now I can not reduce the initial size. I have set the property back to unrestricted file growth. I have shrunk the tempdb and available space is almost 24000mb. I have stopped sqlserver. I even deleted the existing tempdb.mdf & tempdb.ldf files. But when SQL server is restarted, the initial size is set to 24000mb. It will not let me reduce the size. Is there anything short of manipulating the system tables to reduce the size back to 500mb?
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Sep 12, 2011
We have installed SQL Server 2008 R2 SP1 instance and it's having Share Point 2010 databases.
We have 2 dedicated drives for Tempdb on SAN with 50 GB space. Both tempdb data & log files are created with default size. I would like to presize them.
What are the best values to start with?
U ->Tempdbdata having tempdb.mdf file
V->Tempdblog having templog.ldf file
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Sep 4, 2007
I am trying to resize a database initial log file from 500M to 2M. I€™m using€?
ALTER DATABASE <DBNAME> MODIFY FILE ( NAME = <DBLOGFILENAME, SIZE = 2 ) "
And I'm getting "MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size." I tried going into the database properties and setting the log file to 2M, but it doesn€™t keep the changes.
Any help with this process?
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Nov 6, 2015
SQL 2008R2Â
Added four new equally sized .mdf files to a production tempdb last night and restarted the instance.  I was hoping to remove the initial file as it's not required and does not match the size+growth of the others.  The option to 'remove' it is greyed out in the files tab of the GUI so I'm assuming that ALTER DATABASE [tempdb]  REMOVE FILE [tempdev] will also fail. Â
Do I need to migrate any data in this particular .mdf before it can be dropped? Â Or would the simplest approach be to change the size of this file to match the others and drop tempdev3?Â
This is the output from sp_helpfile
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Mar 18, 2015
I have an instance with 4 datafiles for tempdb each set at initial size of 4G and growth rate of 100MB. After some time the initial file sizes seem to have changed automatically. They now read 3962,100,3688 and 2847 respectively. Is this something done by SQL Server itself? I cannot imagine that it was done manually.
I don't think there was a restart after the initial sizes of 4G were set, could this be related to the problem?
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Dec 26, 2006
Hi All,
I need to create a brand new db in prod and I was wondering if anybody has any recomendations for initial .mdf, .ndf, and .ldf file sizes.
Thanks.
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Dec 5, 2007
I would like to increase the initial size of a SQL 2005 DB from 150 to 250 GB to prevent automatic autogrowth; would this have any impact in production if you do it on the fly?
Thanks,
Carlos
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Jan 27, 2007
Folks:
Is there a way to decrease the initial size of a database/log file? I've noticed you can increase it, but if you decrease it, after you confirm the change and go checking again, you will see nothing happened.
Is there a way? Am I missing anything?!
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Jul 23, 2007
Hi,
Currently my db size is only 6 GB but the transaction log file initial size was set to 20 GB and has grown much way beyond the db size with the autogrowth feature turn on. The database was originally a test/development DB and was migrated to a production server including the log file. This probably caused the accumulation of transactions on the log.
We run backup everyday and tried to shrinkfile and file size did not change.
Can I change the "initial size" setting of the transaction log without causing any problems? Do I need to stop the service before I made the change assuming I made the change after the backup run? Or can I change it on the fly?
Thanks in advance.
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Feb 12, 2008
Hi, I wish resize the allocated space of my DB.
It's 245GB, but the DB is 50GB.
I tryed this query:
use master
GO
ALTER DATABASE mydb
MODIFY FILE
(NAME = 'mydb_data',SIZE= 50000)
GO
but I receive an error:
Msg 5039, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size.
Can you help me?
Thanks
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Mar 11, 2008
Via t-sql, how can I query for a file's initial size?
I want the same thing one finds by :
Start SQL Server Management Studio, view, object explorer, right click [dbname], properties, files, Database files: Initial Size (MB).
Many thanks.
Anything will give up its secrets if you love it enough. -- George Washington Carver
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Dec 5, 2007
I would like to increase the initial size of a SQL 2005 DB from 150 to 250 GB to prevent automatic autogrowth; would this have any impact in production if you do it on the fly?
Thanks,
Carlos
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Dec 16, 2004
Hi all,
I've worked with informix for a very long time and this is my first aproach to sql server. I have an extremely simple design for a "small" database and at this moment I'm creating the tables, in informix I can assign a first extent and next extent size to the creation of the table so if your volume and growth analisys is good you can basically be sure that you will allways have contigous space on disk for your table. I'm readin BOL to see if I have that feature here but can't seem to find anything similar. Does that mean that my table data will be "fragmented" all over the primary and secondary files every time I load into them? Would it be a good practice to simulate the extents by creating a secondary file for each table with the size I require?
Any coments will be greatly appreciated :)
Luis Torres
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Apr 9, 2013
How to get the initial size of the database file using T-SQL.
sys.master_files, sys.database_files, sysfiles, sysaltfiles --> gives only the current size and not the initial size.
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Jul 8, 2015
give me the best autogrowth & initial size setting for database
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Oct 23, 2015
I have a database I need to copy from a Prod server to a Dev server. There is not enough space on the Dev server. In looking at the size of the files on the Prod server, the Initial Size property for the transaction log on the Prod server is set to 100,000 MB though the log is using nowhere near that.
This is a mirrored database so the recovery model is "full". I know that to change the initial log size, I have to put the database in 'simple" recovery model. Is this possible? Can I just:
1. Pause the mirror
2. Switch recovery model to simple
3. Change the initial size property to something smaller.
4. Shrink the transaction log
5. Change the recovery model back to full and resume the mirror?
I honestly don't know if the transaction log is needed on the Dev server. Meaning I may just be able to restore the transaction log to a different location on the server and delete it so that new one is created.
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Aug 25, 2004
Hi,
We currently have a fairly new SQL server 2000 db (currently about 18mb is size) as a backend to an application (Navision). Performance seems to be below what it should be.
The db is increasing quite rapidly in size, with a lot of data scheduled to be loaded onto the db and also more and more shops and users coming onto the system with alot more transactions going onto the db.
The initial setup of the db has the database File properties set to "Automatically grow file" by "30%" and has an unrestricted file growth.
The server that the db sits on is high spec and very large disk space.
Because the database will be expanding alot and thus reaching its maximum space allocation and then performing a 30% increase in size (which I guess affects performance quite a bit??) quite regularly.
Is it best to set the intitial size of the db to a alot bigger size in the first place as we have large disk space availiable and also set the % increase bigger also.
any advice on best performance would be much appreicated.
Regards,
David
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May 31, 2000
Hi,
What should be the size of TEMPDB should i set ,if my production databse is 500 mb to 1 gb.
Thanks
Nil.
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Jul 21, 1999
I have an SQL server that has probably 20 or so people connected at a time. In addition to these people, there are five people that run Crystal reports with some voluminous data, usually coming from views.
About every week and a half, one of the report writers get a message that the master device is full and must be expanded, because tempdb is full. When I expand temdb, it fixes the problem.
My question is, the tempdb is now 800 Megs. The sum total of memory allocated to all of the other(besides master)devices is 650. Should this be a flag that something is wrong? It just keeps growing and growing. Tempdb is not on it's own device-it is still on master.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Jane Davis
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Jun 11, 2007
when I restart SQL server my tempdb database is 1.9Gb. I thought it was deleted and replaced with a copy of the model database. Is this not so?
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Apr 9, 1999
I have read that MS suggests you tempdb be atleast 25% of your largest database. Is there any way to monitor your tempdb to determine if it is filling up or being 100% utilized and needs to be expanded?
Thanks,
David
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Dec 2, 1998
I have a server with 2.5GB of RAM. I am allocation 1GB to SQL Server and am attempting to put 500MB tempdb in RAM. It would appear as though I am hitting some sort of max threshhold that I am unaware of as I can set tempdb in RAM up to 320MB. Anything beyond that and I get the following errors on start up and SQL Server will not start.
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 Clearing temp db
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 kernel udactivate(IN_RAM): Operating system error 8(Not enough storage is available to process this command.) encountered
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 Device activation error. The physical filename 'IN_RAM' may be incorrect
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 crdb_tempdb: Unable to move tempdb into RAM; RAM device doesn't exist, cannot be created, or doesn't have enough space for tempdb
I am certain that I am not hitting a Physical RAM limit and the memory checks out and is visible to NT. Please Advise. Thanks
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Sep 9, 2001
What should be size of tempdb.
I am daily getting tempdb translog is full error.
Then i need to dump the transaction with dump traan.... with no log.
After this only server working fine.
Any solution please...
Thanks in Advance.
Selvam
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May 3, 2000
Hello Everyone!
Is there any way by which I can determine whether the tempdb size for the SQL Server is enough or not? (I ean are there any symptoms like excessive paging etc. that can identify this bottleneck?).
Thanks!
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Jan 17, 2001
We currently have a hard-drive size of 3.89MB and 3.3MB is being used by tempdb. I have tried shrinking the database truncateonly but this is not working. The problem is that the tempdb file is as large as my C: drive size. In addition can this be moved to another directory. For example can I move the tempdb.mdf and ldf from C: to E:. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Apr 29, 2008
Hi All,
On my server C drive is of 34GB. Right now tempdb size is 22GB which is causing C drive to be full. How I can I reduce it? I dont want to move tempdb to any other drive, and I am only looking a way to reduce its size.
Please help quickly....
Thanks,
Zee
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Aug 26, 2007
I have the classic "tempdb-out-of-space" problem. Unfortunately, my server fails to reboot properly as tempdb is located on the C: drive which is now completely full. While I understand the changes required to prevent this from happening again, I want to know if it will even reboot if I delete tempdb.mdf and tempdb.ldf. I've read conflicting information on MSDN about default tempdb file size:
- files are built to the default size (I will be fine)
- files are built to the same size as before (problem)
Which is true for SQL 2005?
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Feb 11, 2002
I have a tempdb that was created at 1Gig. I don't know why but I want to shrink it below the original creation size. Is there a way to shrink this file or create a new file and delete the old?
I have tried shinkfile and shrink database with no luck.
Thanks Jeff
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Mar 20, 2007
Against my better judgement, we are using fixed allocations of tempdb on some of our servers. This is to deal with specific limitations of our applicaitons and hardware configuration that I'm not allowed to discuss in much detail.
The problem that I have is that the present plan is to configure the data file at around 18 Gb and the log file at around 2 Gb. This seems just plain wrong to me, but I haven't been able to find a formal recommendation that gives any relative sizing. I would expect to have about twice as much log as data space, especially for tempdb.
Does anyone know of a formal citation (preferably from Microsoft) that discusses this?
-PatP
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Aug 10, 2007
We have a problem with the size of the tempdb.mdf file. The tempdb had grown to 25Gb and consumed all the available disk space. SQL server was restarted and the tempdb was reset back to the default size. The following day the tempdb suddenly increased in size from 200mb to 25GB within a very short space of time. There were a couple of event log entries from sqlservger regarding the lack of disk. Since then the server is running without any problems but the level of free space is virtually zero on the drive with tempdb.mdf file.
What would cause the tempdb to grow suddenly and to this size?
Can I control the size the tempdb can grow to?
SQL 2005 (x64) sp1
W2K3 R2 SP1
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Nov 17, 2015
I am considering turning on RCSI to prevent blocking, how do I estimate the size of tempdb?
I am monitoring current tempdb usage of space for
UserObjectsUsageKB,
InternalObjectsKB,
VersionStoreKB,
FreeSpaceKB. Â
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Apr 18, 2000
I have got SQLv6.5 SP5a with SMS1.2 SP4 on seperate Alpha boxes. I have automated the backups so they are scheduled for after hours. SMS gets backed up first and TEMPDB shortly afterwards. However, since a back log in SMS MIFS has happened, the TEMPDB backup displays of 100,000pages backed up. When you back it up on its own, it only shows 170+ pages.
The SMS DB is 600MB in size, the Log is 210MB, Open objects is 5000, and TEMPDB is set 210MB on its own device.
Any ideas
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