Tempdb Data Device Expansion
Apr 9, 2002
Hi,
I have tempdb data device size default 2 MB, which has completely filled up. I am trying to expand data device to it.
I created new device tempdb_data_ext (250 MB) and tried to expand tempdb data device. But everytime I do it, it ends up adding space to tempdb log device. How can I expand tempdb data device?
It's extremely urgent.
Thanks
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Jan 26, 2004
I am using 6.5 .
Here is the error that i get
Think that tempdb is small how do i change that or what is this error about'
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AIMSMan
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Application-defined or object-defined error 40002
37000: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Can't allocate space for object '##RevByNetSALIMJUMMA' in database 'tempdb' because the 'default' segment is full. If you ran out of space in Syslogs, dump the transaction log. Otherwise, use ALTER DATABASE or sp_extendsegment to increase the size of the segment.( 1105)
ODBC
I only have data and log device how do i increase the tempdb device
let me know
SEJ
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Nov 17, 1998
I have a database in development in SQL Server 6.5 that needs to be occasionally deleted and rebuilt from a script when table structures are changed. I found that when very complex queries were performed, the 2 MB default size of tempdb filled up and returned errors, so I went to the Enterprise Manager to expand tempdb, learned that I had to first expand a device to expand tempdb into, and foolishly chose to expand tempdb into the same device space used by my application, instead of into one of the system databases. Now when I try to delete the device in preparation for its rebuild, the Enterprise Manager responds with an error message saying the device can't be deleted because it contains system tables. Is there any way to get the expanded portion of tempdb out of my application device so that the device can be deleted, without reinstalling SQL Server?
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Mar 5, 2001
I would like to free up some space on a SQL 6.5 server. My tempdb is on a second device (other than master) that is 500M. I don't need tempdb to be this large anymore. What would happen if I shut down SQL, renamed this device so that SQL Server wouldn't use it, and restarted SQL Server. Could I then create a new, much smaller device for tempdb? Would this work?
TIA!
JJ
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Apr 24, 2000
Hello:
We are supporting an mssql 6.5, sp 4 application. My associate recently
increased tempdb from 3 gb to 15 gb by adding a 12gb device on a second drive.
The original tempdb device was 3 gb on an h drive and the 12gb addition was added to the f drive limiting the disk space for the data dat file to be expanded. So now I would like to move that second tempdb device to a different drive to free up disk space on the f drive.
1) Can I move the second tempdb device?
2) Or should I try to shrink it and then expand it on a differetn drive?
3) Any other suggestions?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
THanks.
David
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Jun 18, 1999
I want to duplicate the environment of another existing server where tempdb
resides on it's own device (200mb in size). I can create the devices (data & log). What do
I have to do to physically move tempdb to the new devices I create? I've seen such
articles on Swynk.com, but today the links are not working. Thanks very much!
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Feb 15, 1999
Hi -
In order to restore a DB on another system I need to know the exact expansion history of the source DB in order to create/expand the devices on the target system the same way...
Is there a way for me to see the history of expansions I did on a DB ??
Tanx,
Paul
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The SQL2000 server has plenty of room, about 49GB, so I'm wondering if I should expand the size of the current DB, or if the auto-expand feature will be ok.
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Feb 6, 2001
hi all,
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thanx.
:-)
hemant
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Hi,
We currently have a fairly new SQL server 2000 db (currently about 18mb is size) as a backend to an application (Navision). Performance seems to be below what it should be.
The db is increasing quite rapidly in size, with a lot of data scheduled to be loaded onto the db and also more and more shops and users coming onto the system with alot more transactions going onto the db.
The initial setup of the db has the database File properties set to "Automatically grow file" by "30%" and has an unrestricted file growth.
The server that the db sits on is high spec and very large disk space.
Because the database will be expanding alot and thus reaching its maximum space allocation and then performing a 30% increase in size (which I guess affects performance quite a bit??) quite regularly.
Is it best to set the intitial size of the db to a alot bigger size in the first place as we have large disk space availiable and also set the % increase bigger also.
any advice on best performance would be much appreicated.
Regards,
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3. String columns with alpha data works as expected
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Previous thread discussion of this problem (I thought that Parameters corrected problem, but not in all cases???)
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.sqlserver.ce&mid=0cd9cd3a-f9b0-477f-b1e7-c27eb76158ae
Here is the complete code:
SqlCeConnection _conn = null;
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// DOES NOT WORK *** This statement does not return the record (it exist)
string _sql = "SELECT * FROM Product where RegDescr='0123456' ";
// works correctly
string _sql = "SELECT * FROM PRODUCT where ProdNum = 6523 ";
// works correctly *** as long as multiple records are returned
string _sql = "SELECT * FROM PRODUCT where RegDescr LIKE '01%' ";
// works correctly
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SqlCeCommand _cmd = _conn.CreateCommand();
SqlCeDataReader _rdr;
_cmd.CommandText = _sql;
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//_rdr = _cmd.ExecuteResultSet(ResultSetOptions.Scrollable | ResultSetOptions.Updatable);
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listBox1.Items.Add("In the while loop");
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Hello,
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Once tempdb is shrinked and expanded by the system (we even don´t see it at database folder!!), what can be done, (except reinstall from scrach and restore DBs) to make tempdb not vulnerable to very frequent expanding/shrinking (I guess this can be one of the root of the problem) ?
TIA
Massa/mig
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One time it was about 20MB/sec
After it was reseting and again 1MB/sec..
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I then pointed out that SQL Server best practice is to host tempdb data and log files on two separate drive to reduce contention. The architect then basically said that because this isn't spinning disk the issue of drive, r/w contention isn't an issue I don't agree with this and wanted to get some opinions from the community, I'm still advising that two separate disks should be used but someone just went and spent £80k ($150k) on SSDs and doesn't want to back down...
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Jul 10, 2007
Hi,
I have some stored procedures that create table data types for temporary tables. From everything I've read about these, they shouldn't occupy space in tempdb. However we've been having problems with our tempdb log growing quite large, so I've done some profiling on the database and found that the temporary tables are being created in tempdb, and I don't understand why.
The Stored Procedure looks like:
-- WORKING TABLES
DECLARE @t_InsertParams TABLE (ParamKey1 VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL, ParamValue VARCHAR(1024), ParamOrder INT)
/*** POPULATE PARAMS TABLES ***/
INSERT @t_InsertParams
SELECT *
FROM dbo.GetParamsOffload(@p_ParamList, @p_TargetTable)
and GetParamsOffload is a user defined function that returns a table:
CREATE FUNCTION GetParamsOffload(@p_ParamsList AS VARCHAR(8000), @p_TargetTable AS VARCHAR(50))
RETURNS @t_Params TABLE (ParamKey1 VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL, ParamValue VARCHAR(1024), ParamOrder INT)
AS
<snip>
INSERT @t_Params
SELECT @_ParamKey
,@_ParamValue
,ISNULL(@_ParamOrder, 0)
<snip>
RETURN
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My first question is why this code uses the tempdb in the first place. I've read that you can't use the table data type in a few instances (can't insert the values of a SP execute into the table data type; cannot do SELECT INTO or INSERT INTO statements). Is there an issue with inserting data into the table data type from a function? Is there something that can be changed in the way the table data type is defined/used that will not use tempdb?
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This SP is called via a CSV file parser - gets called A LOT over and over parsing files and I see these objects getting created in tempdb. I need to figure out how this process can manage the space in tempdb better.
I'm using SQL Server 2000.
Thanks for any help.
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I've been trying to make the following query more performant by breaking it up into smaller pieces.
SELECT MT.A3+MT.A4 AS A34,MT.A3
-- ,M.*
FROM
Master_TAB M
JOIN (SELECT M.A1,t3.A3,t3.A4,M.A6,M.A2,ROW_NUMBER() OVER (PARTITION BY A1,A6,A3,A4 ORDER BY A5 DESC) AS rownum
[Code] ....
I know that the Spill is caused by the Sort but I can't remove the sort (sort can't be done in front end). My master table had 1.7 million rows and almost 200 columns (bad design? I know but can't be changed as there's too much that would be affected) every row is little over 1KB
Here's my attempt...
-- MASTER_TAB has 1.7 million rows and 50 columns
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[tmp_ABC](
[A1] [varchar](13) NOT NULL,
[A2] [varchar](5) NOT NULL,
[A3] [varchar](4) NOT NULL,
[A4] [varchar](4) NOT NULL,
[A5] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
[Code] ...
This is the Query that is causing the Spill (in reality I'm supposed to bring back all 200 columns fro the master table but for debug purposes I limited the columns)
Select c.A3+c.A4 as A34, c.A3, c.A1
-- M.*
from tmp_DEF c
join MASTER_TAB M on M.A1 = c.A1 and M.A2 = c.A2
order by c.A3, C.A4
if I just run the following I get no spill:
Select c.A3+c.A4 as A34, c.A3, c.A1
from tmp_DEF c
order by c.A3, C.A4
as soon as I add the Master table as a Join I get the Spill...
I read many articles, tried many suggested things (creating indexes... clustered, non-clustered) without success. Maybe I'm totally in Left Field and should enhance the performance going another route?
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