Too Many Stored Procedures Or Cached Plans?
Aug 16, 2005
I was wondering if anyone had an concrete information about if there is a problem with having too many stored procedures or plans in the cache? Obviously there is an impact on memory but if we can ignore that for the time being, does SQL perform just as well with 100 query plans as it does with 10's millions of plans?
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Apr 29, 2014
Any way to invalidate cached query plans? I would rather target a specific query instead of invalidating all of them. Also any sql server setting that will cause cached query plans to invalidate even though only one character in the queries has changed?
exec sp_executesql N'select
cast(5 as int) as DisplaySequence,
mt.Description + '' '' + ct.Description as Source,
c.FirstName + '' '' + c.LastName as Name,
cus.CustomerNumber Code,
c.companyname as "Company Name",
a.Address1,
a.Address2,
[code]....
In this query we have seen (on some databases) simply changing ‘@CustomerId int',@CustomerId=1065’ too ‘@customerId int',@customerId=1065’ fixed the a speed problem….just changed the case on the Customer bind parameter. On other servers this has no effect.the server is using an old cached query plan, but don’t know for sure.
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Apr 30, 2014
way to invalidate cached query plans? I would rather target a specific query instead of invalidating all of them.
Also do you know of any sql server setting that will cause cached query plans to invalidate even though only one character in the queries has changed?
exec sp_executesql N'select
cast(5 as int) as DisplaySequence,
mt.Description + '' '' + ct.Description as Source,
[Code].....
In this query we have seen (on some databases) simply changing ‘@CustomerId int',@CustomerId=1065’ too ‘@customerId int',@customerId=1065’ fixed the a speed problem….just changed the case on the Customer bind parameter. On other servers this has no effect. I’m thinking the server is using an old cached query plan, but don’t know for sure.
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May 31, 2007
With SQL2005 SP2, we are seeing that when auto stats run on one or more indexes of a large table (1.5M rows), then immediately the stored proc using that table starts acting as if the query plan is no longer any good. This causes a drastic slowdown in response time and a corresponding increase of table reads to get the data. E.g, the next execution of the procedure after the auto stats kick in goes from 355 reads to 755000 reads (as depicted by Profiler). Generally, there are about 25 people using the DB at any one time. They connect through a mid-tier VB component.
I tried adding WITH RECOMPILE to the stored proc in question, but that caused almost all executions to run at the higher number. I thought that the WITH RECOMPILE hint would create a new query plan for each execution of the procedure and that plan would the the latest and greatest. Perhaps it did, but most users got stuck with the higher number of reads anyway. After taking the hint out, everyone went back to getting the 335 number and quick response times.
What we are wrestling with is that when those auto stats hit, it really messes up everyone until we manually recompile the procedure. Daily we delete all records in the table that are over 45 days old, so the table stays pretty much the same size. We also set the recompile flag to cause a new plan to be generated that will reflect the smaller amount of data. Should we also run a stats update before recompiling the procedure? Profiler has been very helpful in capturing what is going on, so I think I have a good handle on that. However, I don't understand why WITH RECOMPILE produced a messed up plan for everyone. The compile itself seems to take only 1 ms when done from the query screen.
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Jan 14, 2008
Hi all,
I put "Northwind" Database in the Database Explorer of my VB 2005 Express and I have created the following stored procedure in the Database Exploror:
--User-defined stored procedure 'InsertCustomer'--
ALTER PROCEDURE dbo.InsertCustomer
(
@CustomerID nchar(5),
@CompanyName nvarchar(40),
@ContactName nvarchar(30),
@ContactTitle nvarchar(30),
@Address nvarchar(60),
@City nvarchar(15),
@Region nvarchar(15),
@PostalCode nvarchar(10),
@Country nvarchar(15),
@Phone nvarchar(24),
@Fax nvarchar(24)
)
AS
INSERT INTO Customers
(
CustomerID,
CompanyName,
ContactName,
ContactTitle,
Address,
City,
Region,
PostalCode,
Country,
Phone,
Fax
)
VALUES
(
@CustomerID,
@CompanyName,
@ContactName,
@ContactTitle,
@Address,
@City,
@Region,
@PostalCode,
@Country,
@Phone,
@Fax
)
=================================================
In my VB 2005 Express, I created a project "KimmelCallNWspWithAdoNet" that had the following code:
--Form_Kimmel.vb--
Imports System.Data
Imports System.Data.SqlClient
Imports System.Data.SqlTypes
Public Class Form_Kimmel
Public Sub InsertCustomer()
Dim connectionString As String = "Integrated Security-SSPI;Persist Security Info=False;" + _
"Initial Catalog=northwind;Data Source=NAB-WK-EN12345"
Dim connection As SqlConnection = New SqlConnection(connectionString)
connection.Open()
Try
Dim command As SqlCommand = New SqlCommand("InsertCustomer", connection)
command.CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure
command.Parameters.Add("@CustomerID", "PAULK")
command.Parameters.Add("@CompanyName", "Pauly's Bar")
command.Parameters.Add("@ContactName", "Paul Kimmel")
command.Parameters.Add("@ContactTitle", "The Fat Man")
command.Parameters.Add("@Address", "31025 La Jolla")
command.Parameters.Add("@City", "Inglewoog")
command.Parameters.Add("@Region", "CA")
command.Parameters.Add("@Counrty", "USA")
command.Parameters.Add("@PostalCode", "90425")
command.Parameters.Add("@Phone", "(415) 555-1234")
command.Parameters.Add("@Fax", "(415 555-1235")
Console.WriteLine("Row inserted: " + _
command.ExecuteNonQuery().ToString)
Catch ex As Exception
Console.WriteLine(ex.Message)
Throw
Finally
connection.Close()
End Try
End Sub
End Class
==============================================
I executed the Form_Kimmel.vb and I got no errors. But I did not get the new values insterted in the table "Custermers" of Northwind database. Please help and tell me what I did wrong and how to correct this problem.
Thanks in advance,
Scott Chang
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Nov 24, 2014
I ran the below 2 select statements and ended up seeing multiple cached instances of the same stored procedure. The majority have only one cached instance but more than a handful have multiple cached instances. When there are multiple cached instances of the same sproc, which one will sql server reuse when the sproc is called?
SELECT o.name, o.object_id,
ps.last_execution_time ,
ps.last_elapsed_time * 0.000001 as last_elapsed_timeINSeconds,
ps.min_elapsed_time * 0.000001 as min_elapsed_timeINSeconds,
ps.max_elapsed_time * 0.000001 as max_elapsed_timeINSeconds
[code]...
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Jul 23, 2005
I want to know the differences between SQL Server 2000 storedprocedures and oracle stored procedures? Do they have differentsyntax? The concept should be the same that the stored proceduresexecute in the database server with better performance?Please advise good references for Oracle stored procedures also.thanks!!
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Jul 23, 2005
I have a stored procedure that suddenly started performing horribly.The query plan didn't look right to me, so I copy/pasted the code andran it (it's a single SELECT statement). That ran pretty well and useda query plan that made sense. Now, I know what you're all thinking...stored procedures have to optimize for variable parameters, etc.Here's what I've tried to fix the issue:1. Recompiled the stored procedure2. Created a new, but identical stored procedure3. Created the stored procedure with the RECOMPILE option4. Created the stored procedure with a hard-coded value instead ofaparameter5. Changed the stored procedure to use dynamic SQLIn every case, performance did not improve and the query plan remainedthe same (I could not easily confirm this with the dynamic SQLversion, but performance was still horrible).I am currently running UPDATE STATISTICS on all of the involvedtables, but that will take awhile.Any ideas?Thanks!-Tom.
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Feb 21, 2013
I think not. Microsoft says it is possible: one for parallel and one for serial execution. Don't believe that's possible for a stored procedure to change execution plans on the fly. Have an on-going problem with timeout occurring with an application and narrowed the culprit to a stored procedure. I couldn't find any obvious issues database wise, no locks, etc. so I recompiled (altered) the sproc without making any changes and the issue cleared for a couple days.
It happened again to day, and so I recompiled (altered) the sproc and it went away again. No code changes to both application (so they say) and stored procedure. I ran the below code snippet to check for sprocs with multiple cached plans and the offending one came up on a short list. So, my question is, Is it one sproc per query plan or can there be more than one. I understand the connection issues.
Code:
SELECT db_name(st.dbid) DBName,
object_schema_name(st.objectid, dbid) SchemaName,
object_name(st.objectid, dbid) StoredProcedure,
MAX(cp.usecounts) Execution_count,
st.text [Plan_Text]
INTO #TMP
[Code] .....
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Sep 30, 2006
Hi,
This Might be a really simple thing, however we have just installed SQL server 2005 on a new server, and are having difficulties with the set up of the Store Procedures. Every time we try to modify an existing stored procedure it attempts to save it as an SQL file, unlike in 2000 where it saved it as part of the database itself.
Thank you in advance for any help on this matter
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Dec 12, 2002
We have a debate in our team about embedded SQL vs. Stored Procs.
The argument is why use SP's if you can embed the SQL in the code and SQL2K will cache it on the fly?
I can't find any definitive information on pros and cons between the two methods.
If there are no major performance issues, or gotchas, I guess it comes down to developer preference.
SP Pros:
- Great SQL support in VS.NET (dev, debug, integration)
- Seperation of database specific code from middle tier.
- Less lines of code in middle tier
- VS.NET support for .xsd dataset definitions.
- Logic closer to data for more demanding processes.
Embedded SQL Pros:
- Less artifacts for version control
- Better encapsulation of logic
Any info would be appreciated.
thanks
Kevin
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Nov 6, 2007
Using SQL 2005, SP2. All of a sudden, whenever I create any stored procedures in the master database, they get created as system stored procedures. Doesn't matter what I name them, and what they do.
For example, even this simple little guy:
CREATE PROCEDURE BOB
AS
PRINT 'BOB'
GO
Gets created as a system stored procedure.
Any ideas what would cause that and/or how to fix it?
Thanks,
Jason
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Apr 29, 2008
How do I search for and print all stored procedure names in a particular database? I can use the following query to search and print out all table names in a database. I just need to figure out how to modify the code below to search for stored procedure names. Can anyone help me out?
SELECT TABLE_SCHEMA + '.' + TABLE_NAME
FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES
WHERE TABLE_TYPE = 'BASE TABLE'
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Jun 13, 2007
Seems like I'm stealing all the threads here, : But I need to learn :) I have a StoredProcedure that needs to return values that other StoredProcedures return.Rather than have my DataAccess layer access the DB multiple times, I would like to call One stored Procedure, and have that stored procedure call the others to get the information I need. I think this way would be more efficient than accessing the DB multiple times. One of my SP is:SELECT I.ItemDetailID, I.ItemDetailStatusID, I.ItemDetailTypeID, I.Archived, I.Expired, I.ExpireDate, I.Deleted, S.Name AS 'StatusName', S.ItemDetailStatusID, S.InProgress as 'StatusInProgress', S.Color AS 'StatusColor',T.[Name] AS 'TypeName', T.Prefix, T.Name AS 'ItemDetailTypeName', T.ItemDetailTypeID FROM [Item].ItemDetails I INNER JOIN Item.ItemDetailStatus S ON I.ItemDetailStatusID = S.ItemDetailStatusID INNER JOIN [Item].ItemDetailTypes T ON I.ItemDetailTypeID = T.ItemDetailTypeID However, I already have StoredProcedures that return the exact same data from the ItemDetailStatus table and ItemDetailTypes table.Would it be better to do it above, and have more code to change when a new column/field is added, or more checks, or do something like:(This is not propper SQL) SELECT I.ItemDetailID, I.ItemDetailStatusID, I.ItemDetailTypeID, I.Archived, I.Expired, I.ExpireDate, I.Deleted, EXEC [Item].ItemDetailStatusInfo I.ItemDetailStatusID, EXEC [Item].ItemDetailTypeInfo I.ItemDetailTypeID FROM [Item].ItemDetails IOr something like that... Any thoughts?
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May 13, 2008
Greetings:
I have MSSQL 2005. On earlier versions of MSSQL saving a stored procedure wasn't a confusing action. However, every time I try to save my completed stored procedure (parsed successfully ) I'm prompted to save it as a query on the hard drive.
How do I cause the 'Save' action to add the new stored procedure to my database's list of stored procedures?
Thanks!
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Apr 7, 2006
We recently upgraded to SQL Server 2005. We had several stored procedures in the master database and, rather than completely rewriting a lot of code, we just recreated these stored procedures in the new master database.
For some reason, some of these stored procedures are getting stored as "System Stored Procedures" rather than just as "Stored Procedures". Queries to sys.Objects and sys.Procedures shows that these procs are being saved with the is_ms_shipped field set to 1, even though they obviously were not shipped with the product.
I can't update the sys.Objects or sys.Procedures views in 2005.
What effect will this flag (is_ms_shipped = 1) have on my stored procedures?
Can I move these out of "System Stored Procedures" and into "Stored Procedures"?
Thanks!
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Apr 23, 2008
Hello friends......How are you ? I want to ask you all that how can I do the following ?
I want to now that how many ways are there to do this ?
How can I call one or more stored procedures into perticular one Stored Proc ? in MS SQL Server 2000/05.
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Mar 26, 2008
Hello
I'm start to work with SSIS.
We have a lot (many hundreds) of old (SQL Server2000) procedures on SQL 2005.
Most of the Stored Procedures ends with the following commands:
SET @SQLSTRING = 'SELECT * INTO ' + @OutputTableName + ' FROM #RESULTTABLE'
EXEC @RETVAL = sp_executeSQL @SQLSTRING
How can I use SSIS to move the complete #RESULTTABLE to Excel or to a Flat File? (e.g. as a *.csv -File)
I found a way but I think i'ts only a workaround:
1. Write the #Resulttable to DB (changed Prozedure)
2. create data flow task (ole DB Source - Data Conversion - Excel Destination)
Does anyone know a better way to transfer the #RESULTTABLE to Excel or Flat file?
Thanks for an early Answer
Chaepp
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Jun 16, 2007
Hi,
Do you know how to write stored procedures inside another stored procedure in MS SQL.
Create procedure spMyProc inputData varchar(50)
AS
----- some logical
procedure spMyProc inputInsideData varchar(10)
AS
--- some logical
--- go
-------
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May 8, 2008
I am writing a set of store procedures (around 30), most of them require the same basic logic to get an ID, I was thinking to add this logic into an stored procedure.
The question is: Would calling an stored procedure from within an stored procedure affect performance? I mean, would it need to create a separate db connection? am I better off copying and pasting the logic into all the store procedures (in terms of performance)?
Thanks in advance
John
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Nov 1, 2007
Hi all - I'm trying to optimized my stored procedures to be a bit easier to maintain, and am sure this is possible, not am very unclear on the syntax to doing this correctly. For example, I have a simple stored procedure that takes a string as a parameter, and returns its resolved index that corresponds to a record in my database. ie
exec dbo.DeriveStatusID 'Created'
returns an int value as 1
(performed by "SELECT statusID FROM statusList WHERE statusName= 'Created')
but I also have a second stored procedure that needs to make reference to this procedure first, in order to resolve an id - ie:
exec dbo.AddProduct_Insert 'widget1'
which currently performs:SET @statusID = (SELECT statusID FROM statusList WHERE statusName='Created')INSERT INTO Products (productname, statusID) VALUES (''widget1', @statusID)
I want to simply the insert to perform (in one sproc):
SET @statusID = EXEC deriveStatusID ('Created')INSERT INTO Products (productname, statusID) VALUES (''widget1', @statusID)
This works fine if I call this stored procedure in code first, then pass it to the second stored procedure, but NOT if it is reference in the second stored procedure directly (I end up with an empty value for @statusID in this example).
My actual "Insert" stored procedures are far more complicated, but I am working towards lightening the business logic in my application ( it shouldn't have to pre-vet the data prior to executing a valid insert).
Hopefully this makes some sense - it doesn't seem right to me that this is impossible, and am fairly sure I'm just missing some simple syntax - can anyone assist?
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Aug 8, 2007
Hello all,
I have a report with a table and a chart. It uses dataset1 as the data source.
All works fine.
I create a new dataset called dataset2.
The queries are exactly the same. The only differences between the 2 datasets is the database server and the fact that one of the columns is a smallint (in dataset2) and an int(in Dataset1)
I change the datasetName property of both the table and the chart to use dataset2.
When I run the report I get a conversion error stating that there was an overflow of int2 while using dataset1. I have verified the report is not using dataset1 anywhere. If I delete dataset1 and run the report the error goes away. If I add it back, I get the error again. Why is the report looking at dataset1 if it is not referenced at all in the report? Does SQL RS cache the datasets and verify each when it compiles?
regards,
Bill
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Aug 1, 2007
I am using SQL server 2005. I have a VIEW that joins several tables. One of the table's column can be added dynamically by the user from a GUI interface. However, after a column is added, it does not show up in the VIEW immediately. It will take a while (I haven't figured out exactly how long) before the extra column shows up as the execution result of the VIEW.
So it seems like SQL server is caching that VIEW's schema. Is there anyway I can make this view always comes back with the latest schema?
Thanks a lot!
Penn
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Mar 11, 2008
Hi, I have a search and I want to create a hyperlinked list of the top 5 search terms below it, what's the most efficient way to go about this?
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Sep 20, 2007
I want to check the performance of m query and i just want to remove cached query results. Is there any suggestion how can i do this.
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May 28, 2008
Phil, great links, really helpful and appreciated.
I just need to verify one thing on the lookup method:
--One of the lookup methods people were discussing is non-cached lookup -- which seem to be evaluated to be the fastest. Is the non-cached the default of LookUp transformation? and when I wanted the lookup method to be cached, I need to go into the Advance tab and set it to however %, right? thanks.
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Oct 23, 2007
Hi,
I'm trying to understand the cases where it's more interesting to use snapshot and when it's more interesting to use cached instances.
If I have 100 users trying to reach a report, is it better to use snaphsot or cache instance ? In both case, the 100 users will have the same report result. And what about the performance, are they similar ?
Thanks for your time and response,
See you,
Have a nice day!
regards,
sandy
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Jun 19, 2007
Hello,
I would like to know what is the difference between a snapshot and a cached instance in SSRS?
Which one has the best performances and which one is the best for multiple users and reports containing parameters (the parameters are then passed in the where clause of the sql code; ex: WHERE IN(@param1))?
Thanks for your answers.
Zoz
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Is it possible to keep a Cached Lookup in memory when executing multiple Data Flows? Executing DFT€™s in parallel will cache and use the same LOOKUP statement. But what if I€™m executing the DFT sequentially, can I keep the LOOKUP from the first DFT in memory for the second DFT? For example, in my case, I€™m caching a lookup against the Customer dimension for invoices. The second DFT then processes credits and again does a lookup against the Customer dimension. I want to use the cached Customer records from the first DFT.
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May 27, 2005
Is there a way to programatically determine if a report should be generated from the cache or run against real-time data?
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Jul 8, 2006
Parameterized queries are only allowed on partial or none cache style lookup transforms, not 'full' ones. Is there some "trick" to parameterizing a full cache lookup, or should the join simply be done at the source, obviating the need for a full cache lookup at all (other suggestion certainly welcome)
More particularly, I'd like to use the lookup transform in a surrogate key pipeline. However, the dimension is large (900 million rows), so its would be useful to restrict the lookup transform's cache by a join to the source.
For example:
Source query is: select a,b,c from t where z=@filter (20,000 rows)
Lookup transform query: select surrogate_key,business_key from dimension (900 M rows, not tenable)
Ideal Lookup transform query:
select distinct surrogate_key
,business_key
from dimension d inner join
t on d.business_key = t.c
where t.z = @filter
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May 1, 2006
I have a procedure that generates dynamic sql and then executes via the execute(strSQL) syntax. BOL states that if I use sp_executesql with hard-typed parameters passed in variables, the query optimizer will 'probably' match the sql statement with the cached execution path, thus avoiding recompilation and speeding up the results for heavily run procedures.
Can anyone tell me if this is also true if the sql references an object on a linked sql server 2000 database? Technically, the sql is exactly the same, but I'm unsure if there is some exception due to the way linked objects are processed.
Thanks!
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Apr 11, 2008
Hello,
This is my first post, and I'm hoping you all can help.
Using Reporting Services 2005, I have several reports that use embedded images.
All images render fine when the report execution is set to:
1) Always run this report with the most recent data
1a) Do not cache temporary copies of this report
However, when I change the execution to either a Cache or a Snapshot, the images and some charts render as red "X" placeholders. This is sometimes remedied when the user clicks the page refresh button, but not always.
Of course, I could just have all the concurrent users use the uncached report that hits the OLAP server, but that would be highly inefficient, and just plain slow.
Thanks for any help on this subject.
-michael
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