Trans Log Confusion

Nov 5, 2002

:confused:

Here's my situation (SQL2K)

We have a testing database we're using to convert large amounts of data from 1 system to another. We might process 5-6 million records, but don't care about being able to recover point-in-time.

I set recovery mode to simple, do a full backup every night. I keep getting large transaction logs. I manually run Shrink Database when I realize the logs are big

What can I do to prevent the logs from getting big in the first place ?? Can I prevent logging from happening ?

I keep reading various books and BOL, but I guess I don't quite "get it" yet ......

Any plain spoken, detailed suggestions would be very appreciated .... thanks in advance.

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