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I'm curious what are considerations for choosing a good transaction retention time? The default SQL uses is 0 to 72 hours. With this setting I found that cleanup was taking upwards of 30 minutes (for a process that defaults to run every 10 minutes). I've read that lowering it can improve performance, and that also you don't want this running too long because of deadlock issues between this and the log reader. So how short is too short? Optimally, since the system this runs on is under heavy use I'd like to optimize this as much as possible, which makes me think that the smaller the retention the better, but is something like 1 or 2 hours too short? What are possible consequences of such a short period of time?

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Version: 08.00.0760
user name: dbo
API conformance: 2
SQL conformance: 1
transaction capable: 2
read only: N
identifier quote char: "
non_nullable_columns: 1
owner usage: 31
max table name len: 128
max column name len: 128
need long data len: Y
max columns in table: 1024
max columns in index: 16
max char literal len: 524288
max statement len: 524288
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Percent Complete: 3
Retrieving publication information
Percent Complete: 4
Retrieving subscription information
Percent Complete: 4
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Percent Complete: 4
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Percent Complete: 0
The merge process could not perform retention-based meta data cleanup in database 'ICASData'.
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Category:NULL
Source: Merge Replication Provider
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Category:COMMAND
Source: Failed Command
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Category:SQLSERVER
Source: EASTSRV3
Number: 11
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