Using SSIS Instead Of Scheduled Tasks?
Jan 22, 2008
What are peoples opinions on using SSIS as a "central repository" and replacement for all scheduled tasks. Example, we have a bunch of servers which we have installed services which we have written. Currently we have scheduled tasks on each machine to stop and start the services. One of my collegues is using SSIS to run a system which runs tasks on multiple machines by remotely running programs on other machines via scheduled tasks and then collects the data and puts it into a database.
He's now pitching the idea that we remove the scheduled tasks on each machine and start and stop our services via SSIS so that it's centralized. In addition, we can also check for holidays in our database before starting services. Since it doesn't seem like SSIS was meant for this type of use, I'm weary of using the tool to do something it wasn't intended for.
Any opinions? I'm also worried that the learnnig curve for everyone is going to be too high.
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Sep 15, 1999
If I have 2 scheduled tasks set for the same time (perhaps accidentally), will the
SQL Executive start 1 and queue the other one until the first is complete and
then run the 2nd task? Or will they both be started simultaneously?
Thanks!
Toni Eibner
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Feb 12, 1999
I have been running the following production job successfully for a long time.
It now fails, and the Task History Last Error Message displays 'No Message'.
The log file ( C:MSSQLLOGMaint_TombV50.txt) shows it ran successfully,
with a Return Code 0.
SQLMAINT.EXE -D TombV50 -RebldIdx 10
-CkDB -CkAl -CkTxtAl -CkCat
-UpdSts -Rpt C:MSSQLLOGMaint_TombV50.txt
It looks like SQL Executive burps for some reason.
Any ideas, comments, suggestions?
Thanks,
sb
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Jun 23, 1999
To all,
If I have a scheduled tasks that is owned by 'sa', how can I assign permissions to allow another user, even the database dbo, to register the SQL server and view the scheduled tasks?
Thanks in Advance,
Ed Molinari
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Mar 6, 2007
Is it possible to schedule tasks in SQL Express, for example a database backup, or to periodically execute a stored procedure?
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Feb 7, 2008
Hi,
I am using Windows 2000 and created around 15 scheduled tasks. My scheduled tasks supposed to run every morning. I have to set password to first scheduled tasks every morning; otherwise none of the scheduled tasks works. As soon as i put password in the scheduled tasks, other tasks work fine.
Any ideas how to save password to schedule task?
Thanks in advance..
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Sep 18, 2000
Hello:
1) Is there a way to call a second task 'upon completion' of the first one. Or would I need to place the code of the second task in one task?
(This is v6.5) I guess the main purpose is to avoid conflict & see if one fails, the other may succeed, etc. I generally like to keep diff tasks separate, but one is dependent upon the completion of the other.
2) I want to restore a db, upon completion of the backup of another db. They are on separate servers, but i know i can use remote sp's.
Any advice, help, code, scripts, etc, would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Mar 23, 2001
Apologies if this has already been covered, but I can't find any information.
What is the easiest way to move a batch of scheduled tasks from one server/network to another? Can you script them up somehow and then reapply the script to the new location?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Jan 19, 1999
I'm running SQL Server 6.5 and have schedules a number of tasks to run overnight. This has generally been successful; even when the tasks have failed, it's been because of a lack of data in a feeder database system.
My problem is that when I try to run the tasks manually, I get a message saying that they can't be run because SQL Executive is not running on the server. Now, this ain't true. The little gizmos show green in the server manager, and if I right click on SQL Executive, 'Start' is disabled and 'Stop' is enabled.
Am I missing something here? Does anyone have any clues or suggestions?
Thanks.
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Nov 2, 1998
Hey how are you.
I'm going crazy with EM's Sheduled Tasks.
I've setup couple of backups and weekly maintenance plans from EM.
After couple of days I viewed sheduled tasks from EM toolbar
and found that all the tasks have not executed as I have scheduled.
the task history does not show any history at all.
Clicking refresh does not do any good either.
However if i right click on the database and choose restore i see all the backups
that i have scheduled.
Is this a bug?
Can someone tell me what's wrong???
THANKS IN ADVANCE
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Nov 7, 2000
We are running SQL 6.5 sp5a. There have been a number of instances recently where some scheduled tasks don't complete. I can't even cancel them. The only way to stop them is to stop and start the Executive service.
Anyone come across this before and know what the problem is?
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Oct 15, 2001
Hi,
All the maintanance jobs scheduled for weekend are still running after 66 hours.
1. transaction log backup
2. integrity check
3. complete backup
4. optimization job
I stopped the jobs from scheduled task lists, I can still see them running through current activity window.
Is it ok to kill them? Or how I can stop them?
Thanks,
Ann
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Oct 14, 2005
Is anyone aware of a way of adding scheduled tasks to MSDE?
Obviously in SQL Server you'd use the Enterprise Manager to do that, but I don't believe it is possible to get Enterprise Manager seperately from SQL Server.
Any ideas on that would be great
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Sep 7, 2006
Hi Guys
I googled this an I got wonderful resul... no, no I didnt.
Could someone please provide a link or a step by step guide on how to schedule the running of SP's that will then send the results to an email address.
Thanks! This will be VERY useful!
~Coin
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Feb 8, 2000
I recently changed the SA password on my SQL Server 6.5 installation and discovered that this had caused the Scheduled CmdExec Tasks (defined in SQL Executive) to fail with:
"Process Exit Code 1. Microsoft (R) SQLMaint Utility, Version 6.50.240 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1995 - 1996 [Microsoft SQL-DMO] Error 4002: [SQL Server] Login failed"
Changing the password back to the original resolves the problem, but is a less than satisfactory solution.
Any advice on how I can change the SA password and allow CmdExec tasks to continue running would be gratefully appreciated.
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Jun 2, 1999
Good morning,
I have a strange problem with a scheduled task failing with the following:
"Unable to send completion notification email to operator with email name '' for task 2780, 'Scheduled Update'"
This job is the same across several servers and the job runs on the other servers. This is a bit frustrating... I cannot seem to find the difference that is causing the problem.
The funny thing is that I am not using SQLMail or anything to notify anyone regardless if the job succeeds or fails.
Any pointers?
Thanks much,
Don
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Jun 13, 2000
I have some "phantom" tasks running, specifically, DB dumps to a NULL Pipe device and they are not scheduled!!! These do not show up in the SYSTASKS table, where can I look to possibly find these un-scheduled dumps? Thank you....
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Apr 22, 1999
I schedule dbcc checkdb command in the SQL schedule task program at 3:00am. It ran successfully but since it ran as a schedule task, I don't know where to find the results. Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Wing
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Jun 14, 2006
Hi, all here,
Would please any expert here give me any guidance about what Data Mining tasks can be automated and scheduled via Integration Services Packages? Also, If we automated the tasks, can we also automatically save the results of the tasks somewhere? Like if we automate assessing the accuracy of a mining model, then we wanna know the mining model accuracy later, therefore, we need to save all these results from the automated actions. Is it possible to realize this?
Thanks a lot in advance for any guidance and help for this.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Jul 11, 2007
Run the SSIS import/export wizard.
(xls -> sql table)
Select the tasks created.
Copy.
Here is the error that occurs.
p.s. Does anyone have any needles I can borrow? I think sticking them in my eyes would be nicer than working with SSIS.
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An error occurred while objects were being copied. SSIS Designer could not serialize the SSIS runtime objects. (Microsoft Visual Studio)
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Could not copy object 'Preparation SQL Task' to the clipboard.
(Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.Design)
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For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft%u00ae+Visual+Studio%u00ae+2005&ProdVer=8.0.50727.762&EvtSrc=Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.Design.SR&EvtID=SerializeComponentsFailed&LinkId=20476
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Program Location:
at Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.Design.DtsClipboardCommandHelper.SerializeRuntimeObjects(ICollection logicalObjects)
at Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.Design.ControlFlowClipboardCommandHelper.InternalMenuCopy(MenuCommand sender, CommandHandlingArgs args)
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Invalid access to memory location. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x800703E6) (Microsoft.SqlServer.ManagedDTS)
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Program Location:
at Microsoft.SqlServer.Dts.Runtime.PersistImpl.SaveToXML(XmlDocument& doc, XmlNode node, IDTSEvents events)
at Microsoft.SqlServer.Dts.Runtime.DtsContainer.SaveToXML(XmlDocument& doc, XmlNode node, IDTSEvents events)
at Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.Design.DtsClipboardCommandHelper.SerializeRuntimeObjects(ICollection logicalObjects)
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Oct 26, 2007
Hello everybody,
I need some help :
I want to transfer a few access mdb kept in a folder to sql server. I am using foreach file enumerator. I want to perform the following actions :
1. At time of loading the file, check if the file name starts with "ED". If not, move the file to error folder.
2. Count no. of records that were there in the access db and that were transferred to the sql table.
3. I also want to run the package from command line. Even though i figured out that, i want to display only limited messages on the console. For eg: File processing begins, File currently being processed, TOtal rows transferred, File processing completed etc.
Please guide me with some examples.
thanks mint.
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Jun 21, 2006
Hi,
I need some suggesstion regarding which SSIS tasks to use regarding my job in hand. Basically what I need is to extract data from joining multiple tables and then load to a particular output database.
How I can go about it?
Thanks
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Nov 16, 2007
Hi,
Can anyone help me out on the following tasks with examples
XML Task.
Message queue Task.
Send Mail Task
Thanks in Advance.
Regards
su..........
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Dec 2, 2014
I have this procedure to remove certain characters from file names.
The SQL Task has this: exec dbo.spCleanseFileName @strFileName = ?, @strFileNameCleansed = ?
The stored procedure:
CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[spCleanseFileName](@strFileName varchar(40),@strFileNameCleansed varchar(40) output)
I have it in an SSIS package and my problem is that, after that SQL Task completes, the value for the
),@strFileNameCleansed variable is blank. I HAVE confirmed that the procedure DOES set the correct value inside the SP.
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Mar 29, 2008
Thanks in advance in reading this thread.
I have developed a big SSIS package to extract data from flat-files ( + 200 Dataflows ).
The situation is the following, inside de SSIS package, there are a lot of validations before extracting & loading the flat-files, i'm running this validations in paralell, so that when a file arrives, it enters the "validation process" and start extracting the file.
When i run the SSIS package from BIDS it works the way i have concepted it... but when i run the ssis in the server, the tables that are loaded through the process are only "available" when the SSIS PACKAGE ends, it is imperative that trough the process, when a table receives new data, it becomes ready, and don't just be available when the SSIS package finishes...
I have attached the an lousing .jpeg.
It is importart for the tables to be available, so the stored procedures(OUTSIDE SSIS PACKAGE) that are dependent of some tables, start working before the SSIS package Ends.
Thanks in Advance.
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Feb 15, 2008
Hi
I have a strange problem with SSIS packages.
(brief description - packages select some data from DBs , write them to CSV file and then CSV file is
copied and renamed to a folder made up of the date)
I have 5 packages scheduled to run, these jobs run perfectly when test scheduled during the day,
(so its not a user permissions problem).
However it seems the 1st package to run at night will fail.
The reason I say 1st is the following,
I had Package A scheduled at 11:20PM and package B at 11:30PM , Package B always succeeded
but package A always failed.
I would test A during the day and it would run fine (the jobs would run successfully aswell as just executing the package manually) .
The I changed the time with B to 11:50PM and it succeeds and A fails ! without changing the packages themselves.
This counts out a possibilty of a DB backup causing the problem (pack always succeeded at 1130, now fails at the same
time)
I was thinking maybe as the folder wasn't created when the 1st pack ran this was causing the fail, but when i test run the job
this morning it succeeds .. and todays folder doesn't exist either !
any ideas ?
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Feb 6, 2007
Hi,
I have a Flat File Source and I want to retrieve few properties of it in an Script Component. How do I?
Also, How could I make the file path of Flat File Source or Connection manager dynamic or configurable through some file ?
any input is appreciated.
Fahad
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Feb 17, 2006
I'm not exactly sure how to ask this question ... but here goes!!
I want to get an idea of how SSIS actually executes transformation tasks.
Do transformation tasks (eg a lookup) complie down to managed code or are the executed as SQL commands in a SQL server database?
Thanks.
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Feb 1, 2008
Hi
I have migrated a DTS that had some activeX transformation tasks within data pump flow tasks.
Those parts were migrated as "DTS 2000 tasks" .. so activeX transformation tasks aren't possible in SSIS ?
I know ActiveX script tasks are but for transformations ?
1. IF i leave these Encapsulated DTS 2000 tasks in the migrated SSIS package, will it run independently of the original
DTS or does it need the old DTS running to "call" that part from ? (I hope im making sense here)
is it possible to load this functionality internally into the new SSIS ?
2.
How could I (if i can't do ActiveX transformation tasks) achieve this is SSIS ?
can I achive this using the script tasks in SSIS ?
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Mar 7, 2008
HI All,
I have Uzip Files to be downloaded From ftp.companyname.com, the zip files get updated everyday thus i have to download the newly added files, the Zip file has got 13 text Files within it, the issue is:
1. how do i download it for the new zip file only, the zip files are shown below, i am trying using FTP Task, but need more info or other alternative.
2. (Optional) How do i UnZip it and and take the text files and then load them to sql server 2005, each text file has to be loaded to sql server tables.
3. How do i automate it, i mean every time i run the package (on Job based) it has to look the new file only, see the zip file below to understand what i am saying about.
02/25/2008 09:02PM 2,780,729 CompanyName_2008-02-22.zip
02/27/2008 09:04PM 1,274,557 CompanyName_2008-02-23.zip
02/25/2008 08:57PM 1,383,112 CompanyName_2008-02-24.zip
02/26/2008 04:21PM 3,327,882 CompanyName_2008-02-25.zip
02/27/2008 08:44PM 3,623,334 CompanyName_2008-02-26.zip
02/28/2008 05:27PM 3,570,243 CompanyName_2008-02-27.zip
02/29/2008 04:20PM 3,444,375 CompanyName_2008-02-28.zip
03/01/2008 04:17PM 2,655,782 CompanyName_2008-02-29.zip
03/03/2008 04:09AM 1,179,338 CompanyName_2008-03-01.zip
03/03/2008 05:21PM 1,267,777 CompanyName_2008-03-02.zip
03/04/2008 04:49PM 3,238,121 CompanyName_2008-03-03.zip
As you can see the Zip file names are the blues color, they are added at different time, when you browse the ftp.companyname.com you will get the blue color files, thus what i need is to download only the current Zip file (i mean i have to downLoad only the newly added Zip file (recent one)). Thus the SSIS Task has to go to this FTP server and look the newly added zip file. (Optional) if possible, After that i have Unzip it b/se i have 13 text files there, and then Load them to Sql Server 2005.
Please get help on this, the deadline is near by time, if possible try as soon as possible, I would like to say Thank you for every help you do and try.
Thanks,
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May 10, 2007
Hi,
I'm new to SSIS after spending a long time with DTS. I am having a difficult time getting a SSIS package to run as a scheduled job, even though the package works fine when run manually.
I read up on these problems and have completed all the neccesary instructions here:
http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/Schedule__Run__SSIS__DTS.asp
but the package still refuses to execute through SQL Agent. The only error message I get in the History Log is:
"The package execution failed. The step failed."
I am running the job as the new Proxy user that I set up but it will not execute when scheduled. Can anyone offer any advice please?
Thanks.
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Sep 14, 2006
Hello all,
I was very familiar in creating quite complex DTS packages in SQL2000. Now with 2007 that is all gone. I looked at the command line utility and it's UI counter part but these are just for executing. I keep getting references to the SSIS designer but I can't find where it is.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Jesse
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Aug 16, 2007
I'm trying to do some custom SSIS logging using event handlers, similar to the ideas provided by Jamie Thomson in the past. My problem is that when I use System:ourceID as one of the items to be logged, I can't match up the SourceID to any of the GUIDs that are displayed in the property window for the various tasks in my package.
Where is this sourceID coming from and how can I track it down?
Thanks for any insight on this.
John Woods
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