Using Transactions With @@identity
Sep 11, 2000
I have a simple statement which is used to insert a record into a table with an identity column and another field which will be updated later. These two fields will then be utilized later. I have seen some concern on the forums about the @@identity returning the correct value and locks. If I start the insert with a begin trans,get my value and then commit am I gaining anything or causing more problems? Were are looking at about 20-30000 records a year. Any experience or thoughts would be helpful Thanks
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May 14, 2004
Hi,
I noticed that tables containing IDENTITY columns skip IDENTITY values when a transaction is rolled back. Is there any way to avoid this? By "avoid" I mean make the table continue generating IDENTITY values from where the last COMMITTED insert took place.
Example:
CREATE TABLE ATable (A INT IDENTITY, B INT);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (39);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (51);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (62);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (93);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (10);
ATable will now contain the following values:
A___B___
1___39__
2___51__
3___62__
4___93__
5___10__
Now let's say I do this:
BEGIN TRAN MyTranName;
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES(44);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES(32);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES(11);
ROLLBACK TRAN MyTranName;
The three new rows won't (obviously) be in the table as my TRANSACTION was rolled back.
However, if I do this :
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (28);
INSERT INTO ATable (B) VALUES (52);
...My table will now contain the following values:
A___B___
1___39__
2___51__
3___62__
4___93__
5___10__
<I>NEW ENTRIES</I>
9___28__
10__52__
Is there a way to have SQL-Server continue from where it left off (IDENTITY VALUES 6, 7, 8) without having to generate the numbers manually or occasionnally turning on IDENTITY_INSERT on the relevant table(s)?
Thanks.
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May 22, 2005
Hi there,
I have decided to move all my transaction handling from asp.net to stored procedures in a SQL Server 2000 database. I know the database is capable of rolling back the transactions just like myTransaction.Rollback() in asp.net. But what about exceptions? In asp.net, I am used to doing the following:
<code>Try 'execute commands myTransaction.Commit()Catch ex As Exception Response.Write(ex.Message) myTransaction.Rollback()End Try</code>Will the database inform me of any exceptions (and their messages)? Do I need to put anything explicit in my stored procedure other than rollback transaction?
Any help is greatly appreciated
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Jul 9, 2006
While I have learned a lot from this thread I am still basically confused about the issues involved.
.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.
To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.
1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.
2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!
3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jun 30, 2006
I want to insert a new record into a table with an Identity field and return the new Identify field value back to the data stream (for later insertion as a foreign key in another table).
What is the most direct way to do this in SSIS?
TIA,
barkingdog
P.S. Or should I pass the identity value back in a variable and not make it part of the data stream?
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Sep 19, 2005
Ok,I just need to know how to get the last record inserted by the highestIDENTITY number. Even if the computer was rebooted and it was twoweeks ago. (Does not have to do with the session).Any help is appreciated.Thanks,Trint
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Hi,
I am having problem in bulk update of a sql server table haning identity column from a datatable( has no identity column) using sqlbulkcopy. I tried several approaches, but it does not show any error nor is the table getting updated. But the identity value seems to getting increased every time.
thanks.
varun
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I'm working with a third-party database (SQL Server 2005) and the problem here is the following:
- There are a bunch of ETL processes that needs to insert rows on a table (let's call this table T) and at the same time, an ERP (owner of T) is up and running (reading, updating and inserting on T).
- The PK of T is an Integer.
Today all ETL processes uses (select max(ID) + 1 from T) to insert new rows, so just picture the scenario. It is a mess! Everyday they get duplicate key error when 2 or more concurrent processes are trying to insert a row (with the max) at the same time.
Considering that I can't change the PK, what is the best approach to solve this problem?
To sum up:
* I need to have processes in parallel inserting on T
* I can't change anything on T
* The PK is NOT an Identity
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Hi All,
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Hi All,
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Hi all....
I am currently designing a DTS Package to import data that is processed daily into a large database.
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I have designed the package with this in mind, checked "join transaction if present" and "rollback transaction on failure" in all of the workflows. I have also made all workflows serialized.
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Transaction context in use by another session.
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Thank you,
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I am working with transactions and use try catch to capture errors and in the event of an error i have to rollback the transaction. How can i perform this?, most of the errors which i forsee are either insertion of null values into non nullable columns or violation of Primary keys while inserting duplicates.
I started by coding the following way but it does not rollaback apparently the try catch does not work for above kind of errors..Can somebody help..
DECLARE @REPORTING_PERIOD VARCHAR(6)
BEGIN TRY
BEGIN TRANSACTION
-- SET NOCOUNT ON added to prevent extra result sets from
-- interfering with SELECT statements.
SET NOCOUNT ON;
SET @REPORTING_PERIOD =(Select REPORT_PERIOD_ID from dbo.T_REPORT_PERIOD where C_FLAG_ACTIVITY=1)
--Step 1
INSERT INTO [dbo].[T_COUNTRIES]
([C_COUNTRY]
,[LB_COUNTRY]
,[C_REGION]
,[FK_REPORTING_PERIOD])
SELECT [C_COUNTRY]
,[LB_COUNTRY]
,[C_REGION]
,@REPORTING_PERIOD
FROM [dbo].[IN_T_COUNTRIES]
--Step 2
INSERT INTO [dbo].[T_FLE]
([FK_P_FLE]
,[C_COSMOS]
,[LB_FLE]
,[C_PARETO]
,[C_OPCO_SCOPE]
,[C_LEVEL]
,[C_FLE_TYPE]
,[C_ACTIVITY]
,[F_MATERIAL]
,[C_MATERIAL_PRIORITY]
,[C_CALCULATION_METHOD]
,[F_CREDIT_RISK_MATERIALITY]
,[V_PARTICIPATION]
,[FK_REPORTING_PERIOD])
SELECT Null as [FK_P_FLE]
,[C_COSMOS]
,[LB_FLE]
,[C_PARETO]
,[C_OPCO_SCOPE]
,[C_LEVEL]
,[C_FLE_TYPE]
,@REPORTING_PERIOD
FROM [dbo].[IN_T_FLE]
COMMIT TRANSACTION
END TRY
BEGIN CATCH
SELECT
ERROR_NUMBER() as ErrorNumber,
ERROR_LINE() as ErrorLine,
ERROR_MESSAGE() as ErrorMessage;
-- Test XACT_STATE for 1 or -1.
-- XACT_STATE = 0 means there is no transaction and
-- a commit or rollback operation would generate an error.
-- Test whether the transaction is uncommittable.
IF (XACT_STATE()) = -1
BEGIN
PRINT
N'The transaction is in an uncommittable state. ' +
'Rolling back transaction.'
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION;
END;
-- Test whether the transaction is active and valid.
IF (XACT_STATE()) = 1
BEGIN
PRINT
N'The transaction is committable. ' +
'Committing transaction.'
COMMIT TRANSACTION;
END;
END CATCH;
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Nov 8, 2006
Hello All,
When i am working with Transactions i got one doubt.
If i am inserting any records into a table with primary key if a transaction is rolled back i am finding one primary ID is missing. Is it so.
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Hi,
I am using C#.NET 2005, SQL Server 2000.
I have a few questions to ask. Firstly, can anybody help me by telling the difference between the code below and the same code with comments removed:
string localquery = "select bla bla"; SqlDataAdapter _sda; DataTable _dt; SqlCommand _cmd; bool isErrCatched = false; Exception ExcToThrow = new Exception(); using (SqlConnection _cn = NewConnection) // NewConnection returns a static SQLConnection object { _cn.Open(); _cmd = new SqlCommand(localquery, _cn); //SqlTransaction myTrans; //myTrans = _cn.BeginTransaction(); //_cmd.Transaction = myTrans; _dt = new DataTable(); _sda = new SqlDataAdapter(_cmd); try { _sda.Fill(_dt); _sda.Dispose(); //myTrans.Commit(); } catch (Exception exc) { //try { myTrans.Rollback(); } catch {} isErrCatched = true; ExcToThrow = exc; } finally { _cn.Close(); } _cmd.Dispose(); } _cmd = null; if (isErrCatched) throw ExcToThrow; return _dt;
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Thankyou and sorry for my English.
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