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Oct 6, 2004

Hi folks,

Table:

a int,
b int,
c int,
d text

I need to change my AFTER - Trigger from this (example!):

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to something like

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So I tried to build a string like this: (using INFORMATIONSCHEMES)

select @sql = 'select a,b,c into #ins from inserted'
exec(@sql)

a,b,c are not of Text, nText or Image datatype.

After executing the trigger, I get an error, that inserted is unknown.

Does anyone know how to solve this ?

Thx.

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