Views Vs. Standard Procedures
Jan 31, 2007
Hello,
I have a question where the answer may be simply opinion, or there may be strong reasons. I guess that's why I'm asking the question...
The question is - when should one create a view, and when should one use a stored procedure? Obviously, when doing multiple queries or passing parameters, you must use a SP. I'm talking about the case of a single query perhaps joins a couple of tables.
Hope that's not a stupid question...
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Apr 24, 2015
We have are SQL 2014 Standard edition, I have a situation where-in I plan to partition a table now since table partition is not supported in standard version I thought about Partitioned views however now I am stuck where I cant make the view writable because of the identity column in the base table.
Do I have any other option in this case?
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Jul 22, 2007
Good evening:Can anyone give me the low-down on using view from within my stored procedures? I've got some rather complex views that join multiple tables resulting in a staggering SQL query. I then use stored procedures to accept input parameters to determine order by and direction clauses. This results in some rather large "IF ELSE IF ELSE IF..." statements in my SP. Put a complicated SQL query together with lots of IF THEN and it becomes difficult to keep stuff straight in the SP. Therefore, using the view to keep my SQL in one place is an ideal solution. However, and here's the question, does it have a negative impact on speed and/or scalability. We plan to use these SP's within an ASP.NET website that may get a very large amount of traffic. Any advice/help you can give me would be really appreciated. Thanks!
- Future Daddy
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Feb 15, 2001
I have been having troubling getting at views and stored proceduers with ADO objects while developing in VB.
I can get a list of the views and stored procedures, but I don't know how to actually get the text values of them... i would like the text so that I can parse/compare them agianst one another...
Any thoughts or help on this?
I would really appreciate the help!
Matt
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Feb 16, 2007
Hello,
This maybe a simple question, I'm using reporting services to make a report, question is can I write a stored procedure that queries from a join of two views instead of two tables?
I'm having trouble getting my table data into the reportable state I want it, and I think organising into views might be easier.
Thanks for any help.
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Apr 18, 2007
Hi everybody,I am trying to alter a view inside a Stored Procedure and sql server is not allowing me to do so.Can we not have an alter view inside a Stored Procedure?Here is the code: CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.[UPDATE_VIEW_LINEITEMALLOTMENT] -- Add the parameters for the stored procedure here@MAINID int,@BE VARCHAR(8)ASBEGIN -- SET NOCOUNT ON added to prevent extra result sets from -- interfering with SELECT statements. --SET NOCOUNT ON; ALTER VIEW [Budget_Management_System].[dbo].[LineItem_OCAFund] AS SELECT TOP (100) PERCENT SUM(dbo.ALL_OCAFUND.AMOUNT) AS Expr2, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.LINENUM, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.PC, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.CATEGORY, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.ROWID, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.MAINID FROM dbo.APP_LINEITEM INNER JOIN dbo.ALL_ORG ON dbo.APP_LINEITEM.ROWID = dbo.ALL_ORG.LINEITEMID INNER JOIN dbo.ALL_OCAFUND ON dbo.ALL_ORG.ROWID = dbo.ALL_OCAFUND.ORGID INNER JOIN dbo.APP_AMENDMENT ON dbo.ALL_ORG.AMENDMENTID = dbo.APP_AMENDMENT.ROWID AND dbo.ALL_OCAFUND.AMENDMENTID = dbo.APP_AMENDMENT.ROWID GROUP BY dbo.APP_LINEITEM.LINEORDER, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.BE, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.MAINID, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.LINENUM, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.PC, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.CATEGORY, dbo.APP_LINEITEM.ROWID, dbo.APP_AMENDMENT.AMENDMENTORDER HAVING (dbo.APP_LINEITEM.BE = @BE) AND (dbo.APP_LINEITEM.MAINID = @MAINID) AND (dbo.APP_AMENDMENT.AMENDMENTORDER = 1) ORDER BY dbo.APP_LINEITEM.LINEORDER ENDthanks a lot,Murthy here
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Sep 7, 2007
Hi,I was just wondering if it's possible to access views from stored procedures? I know it doesn't make much sense, but would it be possible? If so, can you also give me some code example?Thanks.
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Nov 8, 2007
I do all my data access through stored procedures. Is there any benefit in creating views that the stored procedure accesses. At the moment, I tend to just write the select and join within the stored procedure.
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Oct 9, 2002
Is there a way to script views and/or stored procedures from Query Analyzer? I am hoping to do this as part of a stored procedure.
Thanks!
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Oct 19, 2001
I have two databases named A and B. They are exactly same table structure, but the records are different, and we have near 400 stored procedures and over100 views in the database A. Now my question is that how can I transfer all stored procedures and views from database A to database B?
Thank you very much!
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Dec 1, 2005
Hi All,
Novice question. Would someone explain tell me what a view is used for? Also I am confused about the difference between a function and a stored procedure. They both seem like functions to me.
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Nov 23, 2007
Hello all,
I'm looking for a best practice.
Let's say you have a report that contains out of 3 queries.
How are you going to create the report and why?
1. Just use "select * from table where p1= value" in your report
2. Save the query in your db as a view and use the view in your report
3. Create a procedure that contains all 3 queries. And use the procedure with some parameters in your report?
Kr
Karel.
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Jul 20, 2005
Please could someone explain to me the differences between a storedprocedure and a view.The reason for this question is I have two almost identical ASP pages.Both get the same results but one uses a stored procedure and one usesa view. If the query returns no results the 'view page' generateserrors and therefore I have to check for BOF and EOF, whereas the'stored procedure page' does not generate errors and instead wouldappear to return a recordset with 0 entries.Thanks in advanceNeil.
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Aug 6, 2007
I recently set up a new sql 2005 standard edition and planning to mirgrate our production sql 2000 data. but only the tables were migrated from the copy data or import / export task. I cannot find a way to recreate the store procedures and views on the new server without create one view and one store procedure at a time unless all hundreds of views and procedures were rescripted. can anyone help
Thank
Andy Wong
awong@virginiadare.com
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Jun 18, 2007
Hi
what is the diffrence between views and stored procedures in sqlserver 2005
thanks in advance.
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Sep 25, 2007
Can you create views within a stored procedure?
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Mar 13, 2008
Can Microsoft Access access a stored procedure on the SQL Server? If not, is there any way to assign a parameter to a view? I can link to a view in Access, but I cannot link to a procedure. I need to SELECT * from aTable WHERE ID = [@PassidInID]. Any way to do this through Access? The reason for this, is because I am trying to run an existing query (which is very busy - using other queries with queries in them etc.), and I keep getting an ODBC error. I am thinking that if I move the queries to the SQL Server, it may get rid of this error?
It's a 2-tier app I have. Tables on the server, forms, queries, and everything else in Access.
Thanks in advance - I hope.
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Nov 8, 2000
Hello Everybody,
I posted this same question couple of times in the news groups but no answers. I have a 2 tables and i am doing a union query using a view. each has 250 rows. The query takes 20 seconds to return the results. no joins or anything. the create view simply looks like this:
create view myview as
select id, name from table1
union
select id,name from table2
Where as if i write a stored procedure like below, it returns the rows in 4 seconds.
create table #mytable
( id int, name varchar(30))
insert into #mytable (id, name) select id, name from table1
insert into #mytable (id, name) select id, name from table2
select id,name from #mytable.
I prefer doing in the view since both returns the same result. I tried running dbcc, update statistics. but no luck. Can anyone please help me in this issue.
Thanks
Ramesh
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May 20, 2008
Hi
What permissions do I need to set so that a user can change tables, views and procedures?
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Oct 17, 2007
I have a multiple table dataset that needs to be returned, with at least 5 joins, some inner, some left outer.
Currently, this is done via a parameterized stored prodedure, which is used fairly frequently. The parameters only affect the where clause, not the joins.
Would it be better to create the view with the joins already done, then pass in the parameters with the stored procedure? Which is better for overall performance? Which is better for quicker response times to the calling asp.net application?
Thanks in advance,
Leah
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Jul 23, 2005
This is a general question regarding the use of view and storedprocedures. I'm fairly new to databases and SQL.I've created a SQL database using an Access Data Project ("ADP") andI'm satified with the table structure. I've moved on to building somefront ends for our users.I'm running into situations where I want subreports to be built fromqueries [views or stored procedures-I don't know which to use so I usethe term query] that are dependent on the values in other controls.I've played with stored procedures and I've figured out how to sendcriteria to a stored procedure and then dynamically change the recordsource of a subreport.However, I'm running into cases where I can't add records to theresults of a stored procedure. The table I'm running a stored procedureon has five fields: (1) Primary Key for each record, (2) FundID that'sa primary key in another table, (3) CompanyID that's a primary key inanother table, (4) Attribute 1 of the (Fund/Company) and (5) Attribute2 of the (Fund/Company).The stored procedure filters the set of Fund/Companies based on aFundID from a form. I can update this stored procedure. However, forusers, they would like to see the Fund Name from the table that hasunique FundIDs. As soon as I include that into the stored procedure, Ican no longer add records.My questions are many:1. Is there a primer online that discusses the theory behind myquestion? Recordsets, updatability, working with recordsets in forms?2. What are some best practices for developing subreports, combo boxes,list boxes, etc. where the data is dependent on the values in a control3. I'm struggling with the best ways to grab objects on a form. If I'mon the main form I'm comfortable working with theMe.__object__.__sub-oject routine. However, if I'm in one subform whereI need another subform to change based on the record I'm in, I feelthat my code to get at the subform is very klunky..forms.main form name.sub form name.form.record sourceI don't even know how I figured out the "form" part before recordsource. Again, are there some basic rules or guides about navigatingthrough forms in VBA?4. Should I be developing front ends in some other environment?I know it's a lot, but all the advice from the newsgroups seems topresuppose some knowledge about how ADP, ADO, ODBC..blah blah and Ican't seem to find any documents about ADP and SQL.
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Jan 27, 2006
The purpose for my questions is accessing these technologies fromapplications. I develop both applications and databases. Working withMicrosoft C#.NET and Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Production and 2005 TestEnvironments.What is the purpose of a view if I can just copy the vode from a viewand put it into a stored procedure?Should I be accessing views from stored procedures?Should I use views to get information? and Stored Procedures forInserts, Updates and Deletes?What are the performance differences between the two?Thank you for any and all information.SBProgrammer
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Apr 13, 2007
I am using SQL Server Management Studio and Visual Studio 2005 and I am a newbie.
Once connected to a remote server and database I am able to use SQL Server Management Studio to modify a table and save it. When I modify a stored procedure or create a new one and attempt to save it I get my local dialog box to save to my system with a new name €œSQLQuery6.sql.€? How do I cause the procedure to be saved to the remote database? If anyone can help this or where I can find it I will appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
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May 9, 2006
Hi,
I would like to use the view of the company data in the following stored procedures
without needing to pass a value into the CompanyID identity column. Is there a way to do this? The following code contains the view, the insert trigger on the view, and the desired stored procedures.
Also, this code is given me problem as well the error message says it cannot convert varchar to int. This code is located in the insert trigger.
INSERT INTO State(StateName)
VALUES(@StateName)
Here is the code of the company view, notice the C.CompanyID it is used in the GetCompany stored procedure.
SELECT C.CompanyID, C.CompanyName, A.Street, A.City, S.StateName, A.ZipCode, A.Country, P.PhoneNumber
FROM Company AS C INNER JOIN
Address AS A ON C.AddressID = A.AddressID INNER JOIN
State AS S ON A.StateID = S.StateID INNER JOIN
Phone AS P ON C.PhoneID = P.PhoneID
Here is code for the insert trigger on the view
CREATE TRIGGER InsertTriggerOnCustomerView
ON ViewOfCompany
INSTEAD OF INSERT
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @CompanyName VARCHAR(128)
DECLARE @AddressID INT
DECLARE @Street VARCHAR(256)
DECLARE @City VARCHAR(128)
DECLARE @StateID INT
DECLARE @StateName VARCHAR(128)
DECLARE @ZipCode INT
DECLARE @Country VARCHAR(128)
DECLARE @PhoneID INT
DECLARE @PhoneNumber VARCHAR(32)
--DECLARE @CompanyID INT
SELECT
--@CompanyID = CompanyID,
@CompanyName = CompanyName,
@Street = Street,
@City = City,
@StateName = StateName,
@ZipCode = ZipCode,
@Country = Country,
@PhoneNumber = PhoneNumber
FROM INSERTED
INSERT INTO State(StateName)
VALUES(@StateName)
SET @StateID = @@IDENTITY
INSERT INTO Address(Street, City, StateID, Country, ZipCode)
VALUES(@Street, @City, @StateID, @ZipCode, @Country)
SET @AddressID = SCOPE_IDENTITY()
INSERT INTO Phone(PhoneNumber)
VALUES(@PhoneNumber)
SET @PhoneID = SCOPE_IDENTITY()
INSERT INTO Company(CompanyName, AddressID, PhoneID)
VALUES(@CompanyName, @AddressID, @PhoneID)
END
The stored procedures are here.
CREATE PROCEDURE GetCompany
(
@CompanyID INT
)
AS
BEGIN
SELECT CompanyName,Street, City, StateName,
ZipCode, Country, PhoneNumber
FROM
ViewOfCompany
WHERE
CompanyID = @CompanyID
END
GO
CREATE PROCEDURE AddCompany
(
@CompanyName VARCHAR(128),
@Street VARCHAR(256),
@City VARCHAR(128),
@StateName VARCHAR(128),
@ZipCode VARCHAR(128),
@Country VARCHAR(128),
@PhoneNumber VARCHAR(32)
)
AS
BEGIN
INSERT INTO ViewOfCompany
VALUES(@CompanyName, @Street, @City, @StateName,
@ZipCode, @Country, @PhoneNumber)
END
GO
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Aug 15, 2001
I am running MS SQL Server 7 with SP3 installed and am having some problems getting replication to work correctly. I want to replicate all tables from one database to another database on the same server. I can setup replication, add publications and add subscriptions without any problem and all goes well until the replication process starts when the job aborts because it cannot find the sp_MSins..., sp_MSupd... or the sp_MSdel... stored procedures. I have used the New Publication wizard to create a Transactional publication, published all tables and allowed the wizard to use the default stored procedures which it says will be created when the subscribers are initialized but although I have created push subcriptions the stored procedures are never created and hence the replication fails whenever the job runs.
I have SA access to the databases concerned and as far as I am aware the jobs are running as my login - can anybody help me out as this is beginning to drive me nuts.
Thanks
Chris
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Oct 13, 2005
Dear group,is it possible in SQL-Server to see when a stored procedure wasexecuted ?I would say it is only possible with some traces but not with thestandard settings.For a short answer on that matter i'd be thankful.RegardsUli
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Mar 22, 2006
Hi,Right, i have a fairly good understanding of SQL. However, i have a fairly basic understanding of SQL Server.I know Storedprocedures are really good and i'm starting to use them. I understand they are good for making inserting, updating very easy.However when you look at a SQL Server database you get various folder, this leaves me a little confused with what they are all used for? whats the difference between these?Thanks in advance!sorry for the basic question, i'll try to challange you next time
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Aug 2, 2007
Hi...
I'm trying to generate scripts in SQL Server Management Studio 2005.
When I choose 'Script all objects' I get an error when I try to execute it. When I generate the scripts in single files, only tables in one file, only views in one file etc. etc., the execution is succeded.
1) Why do I get an error when I try to execute the script containing tables, views, procedures in one file....?
2) I get an error in the view-file where one column is 'invalid' but I can see it in the view. A generated script should execute succesfully when it is generated one second ago on the same database and so on... Right?
Thanks....
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Jul 22, 2007
Greetings,
We have recently begun using transactional replication to keep the data in our SQL Servers synchronized in a geographically dispersed environment. We replicate our tables but we have never replicated views, stored procedures, or user functions in our production systems. We are thinking of doing so but wonder if the overhead of running the replication agents doesn't outweigh the benefits of having replication assist with the occassional change to these design elements.
Is anyone on this forum replicating views, sprocs, and user functions? What has your experience been?
Thanks for any ideas that you share.
BCB
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Feb 20, 2007
Hi all--I used the following type of script to migrate tables, views and stored procedures from 'dbo' to 'hqmsuser':
alter authorization on dbo.PK_T_PQ_MASTER to HQMSUSER
alter schema HQMSUSER transfer dbo.PK_T_PQ_MASTER
go
This was per recommendations from the BOL to use instead of the 'sp_changeobjectowner' procedure. I returned the following error:
Msg 15346, Level 16, State 1, Line 3
Cannot change owner for an object that is owned by a parent object. Change the owner of the parent object instead.
Msg 15347, Level 16, State 1, Line 4
Cannot transfer an object that is owned by a parent object.
How do I find and change the parent object on this from 'dbo' to a non-dbo schema ownership?
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May 21, 2008
Hi Folks,
I am writing a program that transforms a generic MS SQL database to make it compatible with our application. In order to make the transformation, I have to access all the elements of the generic database programmatically.
I know that the Master database contains all this information. Is there a query that allows me to access the "non-system" tables, sps, views, and functions?
For Tables, I need to know the Name(s) of the tables, the column names, the column type, ALLOW Nulls, Primary Key, Identity Seed settings, and Triggers.
For SPs, I need to know the Name(s) and access the SP source code (assuming it's unencrypted).
For Views, I need to know the Name(s) and access the Views Source
For functions, I need to know the Name(s) and access the function source.
I can see various tables in the Master database from management studio, like sys.objects, sys.tables - which look like they have the info I need. However, when I run a query against master like:
select * from sys.objects .. I get an error:
Msg 208, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Invalid object name 'sys.objects'.
Thank you in advance.
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Nov 9, 2007
Hi,
I've a doubt regarding deploying and creating package (MSI and EXE files) for SQL Stored procedures,views,tables,functions,triggers etc.,just like ASP.NET application by publishing and deploying..Is it possible in the same way for sql objects.If so,pls help me how to do it?
Thanks in advance.
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Apr 3, 2006
Fellow database developers,I would like to draw on your experience with views. I have a databasethat includes many views. Sometimes, views contains other views, andthose views in turn may contain views. In fact, I have some views inmy database that are a product of nested views of up to 6 levels deep!The reason we did this was.1. Object-oriented in nature. Makes it easy to work with them.2. Changing an underlying view (adding new fields, removing etc),automatically the higher up views inherit this new information. Thismake maintenance very easy.3. These nested views are only ever used for the reporting side of ourapplication, not for the day-to-day database use by the application.We use Crystal Reports and Crystal is smart enough (can't believe Ijust said that about Crystal) to only pull back the fields that arebeing accessed by the report. In other words, Crystal will issue aSelect field1, field2, field3 from ReportingView Where .... eventhough "ReportingView" contains a long list of fields.Problems I can see.1. Parent views generally use "Select * From childview". This meansthat we have to execute a "sp_refreshview" command against all viewswhenever child views are altered.2. Parent views return a lot of information that isn't necessarilyused.3. Makes it harder to track down exactly where the information iscoming from. You have to drill right through to the child view to seethe raw table joins etc.Does anyone have any comments on this database design? I would love tohear your opinions and tales from the trenches.Best regards,Rod.
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