What Are Some Of The Drawbacks To Using Triggers?

Mar 5, 2008

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I am trying to compile a case of why DTS packages need to be migrated to SSIS packages. Is there any document, whitepaper which can provide me drawbacks in DTS?

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I have read mixed feedback on AWE, either it works great or grinds you to a hault. I would assume that the grinding to a hault is due to not setting the min/max values correctly or not enabling the lock page in memory setting.

We only have one instance of SQL on the server and this box won't be used for anything else aside from hosting SQL services. We do plan on running SSRS off of this server as well.

1. Will running SSRS and enabling AWE cause me problems? Will I have to reduce the max setting by the SSRS memory usage or will it share and play nice?

2. How do I go about setting the Max value? Should it be less than the physical RAM in the box? Right now its set to the default of 214748364, even if I don't enable AWE should this default value be changed?

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4. The lock Page in memory setting worries me. Everything I've read on this seems to give a warning about serious OS and other program support degradation. In some cases to the point where they have to restore the settings on the server before they can bring it back up. What are your thoughts on this.

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May 12, 2008

This isn€™t an problem as such, it€™s more of a debate.

If a table needs a number of update triggers which do differing tasks, should these triggers be separated out or encapsulated into one all encompassing trigger. Speaking in terms of performance, it doesn€™t make much of an improvement doing either depending upon the tasks performed. I was wondering in terms of maintenance and best practice etc. My view is that if the triggers do totally differing tasks they should be a trigger each on their own.

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Is it possible to achieve this using triggers:When someone tries to delete a row in table A, the trigger should first delete a corresponding row in table B and then delete the row in table A. The reason being that, there is a foreign key set on Table B that references table A. So any attempt to delete a row in table A without deleting the corresponding row from B, throws an error. 

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May 31, 2007

Hello All,
I have to write Trigger for Update,
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 Help me.
 General Problem
 

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Jun 15, 2007

I need to create a set of rows every time a new row is inserted into a table.
Example (I think this would work)...
select @insertedId = column1 from insertedselect @id = column1 from table1 where column2 in (select column1 from table2 where column2 = @insertedId)insert into table3 values(x, y, @id)
Is it possible to do the same kind of thing in a situation where the select statement returns multiple values and execute the insert statement for each of these values?
Also, if table3 was in fact the table on which the trigger acts, would it then be executed for every row created by the trigger?
Sorry if I sound confused. I am.

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Dec 6, 2007

 
 hi everybody..i tried to put thios loop in sql server 2000 But it is not taking The @ action taken value ,,it is only taking the default value of @actiontaken value.
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IF (@AType = 'A')IF @Status= 'O' IF (@KAppInd ='Y' AND @DAppInd=null)BEGINSET @ActionTaken = 'O'END
 
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Jun 17, 2004

When I execute a stored proc from my asp.net page, will the results of a trigger be returned to my program?

For instance say my stored proc is:

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where ID = @ID

And my trigger is:

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IF UPDATE(lastname)
BEGIN
RAISERROR ('cannot change lastname', 16, 1)
ROLLBACK TRAN
RETURN
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Mar 5, 2006

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Dec 4, 2001

l'm trying to build a trigger on a table. The reason for the trigger is to check a certain field for the first three characters if it has ie abc it must update another field in this case loanbook to newabc.How do l write the trigger so that it also check if exists and perform the updates. Please help its Urgent. l've listed the trigger below.

CREATE TRIGGER UpdTest_TRGData
ON Test_TRG
FOR insert,Update AS

IF left('Loan_No',3)='ABC'
update Test_TRG
set loanbook = 'NEWABC'

else

IF left('Loan_No',3)='DEF'
update Test_TRG set
loanbook = 'NEWDEF'
where loanbook is null

else

update Test_TRG
set loanbook =left('Loan_No',3)
where loanbook is null

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Dec 5, 2001

I'm a bit confused on this bit please elaborate : " FROM Test_TRG t INNER JOIN inserted i ON t.PK = i.PK ".
The PK is on which field? Basically this trigger should ensure that on insertion of o new loan if
The left(loan_no,3)=MCG and its null then NEWMCG
left(loan_no,3)=MCG and its null then NEWMCG
left(loan_no,3)=KVS and its null then NEWKVS
left(loan_no,3)=MFS and its null then MFS
left(loan_no,3)=TCR and its null then TCR
left(loan_no,3)=ABL and its null then ABL

Listed below is what l've tried to do but l'm missing the PK part.Otherwise everything else you explained
in the script is clear. Thanks man its urgent. When l parse the query its fine , but When l run it
l get an error.



CREATE TRIGGER UpdTest_TRGData
ON Test_TRG
FOR INSERT, UPDATE
AS

UPDATE Test_TRG
SET LoanBook = CASE WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'MCG' THEN 'NewMCG'
WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'KVS' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN 'NewKVS'
WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'MFS' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN 'MFS'
WHEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'ABL' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN 'ABL'

WHEN i.LoanBook IS NULL THEN LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 )
END
FROM Test_TRG t INNER JOIN inserted i ON t.PK = i.PK
-- Fill in Primary Key or other Join Column(s)
WHERE LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'MCG'
OR ( LEFT( i.Loan_No, 3 ) = 'KVS' AND i.LoanBook IS NULL )
OR i.LoanBook IS NULL

====== Error message =================

Server: Msg 207, Level 16, State 3, Procedure UpdTest_TRGData, Line 11
Invalid column name 'PK'.
Server: Msg 207, Level 16, State 1, Procedure UpdTest_TRGData, Line 11
Invalid column name 'PK'.

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Jan 11, 2002

I an loading records from a flat file into a table, which is done everyday by a scheduled job in SQL Server 7.0.

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Jan 31, 2002

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Aug 3, 2001

Hey everyone...

I'm working on trying to figure out how to update the child table from the parent via a trigger. This works fine as long as the value is in the child table. If it's not, then I get my foreign key violation. So, My next thought was to simply put in a begin tran / rollback tran within the trigger... My question is this : If I have multiple triggers on the parent table all based on the update of the key field (and the child tables... some 7 of them) all have FK's, if I rollback one trigger does it rollback the entire transaction? Or just the functionality of that trigger? From what I've read, it appears as if it's the entire transaction... if so, how do I get a trigger to 'ignore' itself or not fire based on a select criteria that i have within that same trigger...

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Oct 24, 2001

I just tried creating my first trigger and I'm a little bit confused. I am trying to see if certain fields have changed and will do that by checking the values of the fields in the "master" table and the "Inserted" table. I wasn't sure which table would have the old data and which would have the new, so I created the following trigger to help me determine which was which:

CREATE Trigger upd_cost_master On tbl_cost_master
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Declare @U_Name varchar(65)
Declare @O_Name varchar(65)

Select @U_Name=I.submitted_by, @O_Name=O.submitted_by
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Print 'Inserted: ' + @U_Name
Print 'tbl_cost_master: ' + @O_Name

Commit Tran

To my surprise, @U_Name and @O_Name contained the same values. I though that one table contained the old values and one contained the new. Was I wrong? If so, is there anyway to compare the Old and New values through a trigger?

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Jul 20, 2000

Hi,

I'm using SQL Server 7.0. I have an insert trigger on table t05r. I populate table t05r with a DTS package. The trigger is supposed to add the record which was inserted into t05r, into t39r. After I run the DTS package to populate t05r, I checked t39r and no records where added. What is going wrong? Is it that DTS uses bulk copy and triggers don't fire on bulk copy?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
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I have an insert trigger on table A which inserts records into table B.
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Hi,
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I have not used triggers before and wanted to know if it was approproate for my issue:

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Aug 29, 2007

I am not actually sure if Triggers are the solution to my problem, but I have no experience with them and need help understanding if they will solve my problem.

Users that Access the database through our Front End Software can search on any field (indexed or not). For the most part, they search on indexed fields, but the problem is when they enter and empty string and attempt a search.

The Query that is passed to SQL essentially searches for everything - example below:

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The result of this is a timeout after 60 seconds and the server being practically coming to a halt during that wait. All users trying to make reads or writes are queued behind that query and it appears as though they are frozen. I have done a lot of monitoring with Profiler to figure out the problem, but I am stuck on how to stop it. The issue lies with the users and that is something I cannot fix. The Front End software cannot be modified. I cannot limit what they search on nor can I limit the fields they can search on.

Being that I can't do anything there, I was hoping I could intercept this query when SQL receives and possibly time it out faster. The queries follow a format, so I was hoping a trigger would do the trick.

Please provide any ideas or input that may help solve my problem. Also, if anybody has any good links to help me with triggers if that will take care of the problem.

EDIT: After doing some reading it is looking like triggers may not be applicable to my problem, but I am still looking for a solution.

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I came for a new assignment.
Here, we've got about 70 tables and almost each table has got 3 triggers. So, in total, we have about 200 triggers, which makes the process cumbersome.

Is there a way to get rid of these triggers?
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How do I query any data that is changed through a trigger. IN oracle you would use .new or .old to query the data. All I can find is temporary tables called Inserted and deleted but dont seem to be able to query these tables. I need to update other tables with data that was changed in the original table through a trigger.

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