What Happens To Windows Authentication If Domain Failure Occurs?
Jul 23, 2005
Hi,
I have a peculiar problem (or maybe not). I have SQL clients installed
on XP boxes. These XP boxes are a member of let us say "XYZ" domain.
SQL Server is installed on one of the boxes having Windows 2000 Server
in the same network. The installation has been done on local domain
account. Since SQl Server has been installed with Windows
authentication, what happens if the XYZ domain fails. Will it be
possible for all clients to access the database present on SQL Server
in the Win 2K box. I think I have made myself clear upto some extent.
Please throw light on how to accomplish the connectivity between SQL
clients and server in case of domain failure.
Regards,
Vinodi
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May 30, 2007
We're getting an error where we can't add a login with the full dns name of a user - domain.xyzuser, for example. Get an error 15401, "Windows NT user or group domain.xyzuser' not found". The domain has a different Netbios name and DNS domain names, so we can add the user when we use the form "netbiosnameuser". So far so good.
Unfortunately, we have another application - Office Share Point Server whose shared services provider won't run, giving errors in the event log every 60 seconds that "Windows NT user or group 'domain.xyzuser' not found".
It looks as if SQL insists upon listing users in the form netbiosdomainnameuser, and applications that look for domain.xyzuser simply fail to authenticate.
Suggestions?
jnfranc at yahoo period com
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Jul 16, 2007
Hi,
I have a client running in a Domain A and a SQL server running in Domain B using Windows security. We don't want to put SQL Server in the mixed authentication mode.
I created a local group on de SQL server. Gave the group correct rights.
Added users from Domain A to that group. Although he prompted me for username password from Domain A it did work.
There is currently no trust between those domains. What kind of a trust should it be ? I believe that a one way trust where B trusts A should be enough.
Any suggestions.
CE
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Jan 29, 2007
Hi:
I am trying to figure out if there is a way to connect via SQL Server Management Studio to a server sitting on a separate domain. So here is the situation. there is Server B which sits in a domain called DomainB. If I am in DomainA, I could typically remote into that server utilizing an IP address in DomainB, and even transfer files to that server. But how do I connect via SQL Server Management Studio(basically login as a different domain user) to Server B in DomainB from DomainA. Basically when I choose Windows Authentication from the dropdown list in SQL Server Management Studio, it grays out the username field, which is where I could type something like this domainBusernameondomainB, similar to how you would connect to a share on that server. Please let me know if there is a possibly solution to this. Also, our customer doesnot allow SQL Server Auth/Logins, so that is not an option. Thanks.
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Apr 28, 2008
We have a SQL 2005 box that requires windows authentication but I have to connect a laptop that is not part of the domain. Is there any way to do this? Per company policy, the SQL server cannot be changed to use SQL Auth AND Windows Auth. Also per policy, the user's laptop cannot be joined to the domain since it's not a company laptop.
I've tried using the following command:
net use \SQLServerNameipc$ /user:DomainNameDomainAccount Password
and then using enterprise manager to register the sql server but it still says that the computer is not trusted.
Is there something else to this that I am missing or is this just not possible?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Nov 8, 2006
Hi
We are planning implementation of a currently Sybase db. The users (about 3600) will be i 5 domains and we want single sign-on through trusted connections. We want to use the database roles to define different user access on databases and tables. There will be around 2000 roles. We also want to add the users directly to the database roles without having to grant each user database access.
So I thought that I could add the user groups from all domains and then add each domain user account to specified database roles. Am I right here or what? The Windows authentication will lookup or check the users kerberos ticket during logon process and allow logon.
The documentation here is weak and I assume it's a windows authentication question but wondered if any of you guys had been down the same road.
For creating the groups I have the following options:
Create a domain group and put all the usergroups from the other domains in this group
Add user groups from all other domains directly into the SQL Server.
Any recommendations here?
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Feb 24, 2007
If my SQL Server authentication is windows integrated authentication, whenever my application makes a connection to SQL server does it contact the windows active directory domain controller to authenticate the windows user account? How does windows integrated authentication work in the background?
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Feb 13, 2007
Hi There
I have service broker working 100% with an initiator - forwarder - target, all in the same domain using windows authentication on the endpoints, for all instances' the sql server service run under the same domain account, which in turn is granted connect on the various endpoints. This all works 100%
However i have a scenario where the initiator will be in a different trusted domain.
I need to know if i am correct in thinking that the initiator sql server servcie account can run under DomainAsqlservice, the target instance sql server servcie can run under DomainBsqlservice, then on the forwarder i simply grant connect on the forwarder endpoint to both DomainAsqlservice and DomainBsqlservice.
Is this correct, will this work?
Thanx
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Nov 16, 2006
Greetings,
One of my users gets the following error when he tries to connect to my SQL Server 2000 database using windows authentication via Query Analyzer:
[Micorsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] Login failed for user '(null)'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection.
Me and the server are located in Colorado and are on the NADomain. User is in London on the EURDomain. The EURDomain has a one way trust to the NADomain to use NADomain resources. I have granted access to the database to the user via Enterpise Manager as EURDomainuserid. All the literature I've read says this should be sufficient to connect but isn't. User can connect with SQL Server authentication. Users on the NADomain in Toronto can connect just fine with Windows Authentication. EURDomain user can access other file server resources in the same building as the SQL Server in Colorado.
SQL Server version is:
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.818 (Intel X86) Standard Edition on Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195: Service Pack 4)
EURDomain Client ODBC version is 2000.85.1022.00 and MDAC is 2.8.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Mar 27, 2007
I have an xp dev machine i use which has sql server 2005. I skipped installin sp1 on sql server and went to sp2 directly. I tried over and over again but getting following errors. Not sure how to fix it.
Product : Database Services (MSSQLSERVER)
Product Version (Previous): 1399
Product Version (Final) :
Status : Failure
Log File : C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGHotfixSQL9_Hotfix_KB921896_sqlrun_sql.msp.log
Error Number : 29528
Error Description : MSP Error: 29528 The setup has encountered an unexpected error while Installing Local Groups. The error is: A member could not be added to or removed from the local group because the member does not exist.
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Product : Analysis Services (MSSQLSERVER)
Product Version (Previous): 1399
Product Version (Final) :
Status : Failure
Log File : C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGHotfixOLAP9_Hotfix_KB921896_sqlrun_as.msp.log
Error Number : 29528
Error Description : MSP Error: 29528 The setup has encountered an unexpected error while Installing Local Groups. The error is: A member could not be added to or removed from the local group because the member does not exist.
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Product : Reporting Services (MSSQLSERVER)
Product Version (Previous): 1399
Product Version (Final) :
Status : Failure
Log File : C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGHotfixRS9_Hotfix_KB921896_sqlrun_rs.msp.log
Error Number : 29528
Error Description : MSP Error: 29528 The setup has encountered an unexpected error while Installing Local Groups. The error is: A member could not be added to or removed from the local group because the member does not exist.
After going into detailed log file i noticed this account its trying to use,
MSI (s) (A8!54) [17:13:45:891]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SQLBROWSERACCOUNT property. Its value is 'PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR'.
MSI (s) (A8!54) [17:13:45:907]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding AGTACCOUNT property. Its value is 'PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR'.
Restored account SQLBROWSERACCOUNT=PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR
MSI (s) (A8!54) [17:13:45:907]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SQLACCOUNT property. Its value is 'NT AUTHORITYSYSTEM'.
Restored account AGTACCOUNT=PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR
MSI (s) (A8!84) [17:13:48:109]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding Rollback_sqlGroupMember.D20239D7_E87C_40C9_9837_E70B8D4882C2 property. Its value is '100Installing Local Groups50000SQLServer2005SQLBrowserUser$PHOENIXDEV2PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR'.
MSI (s) (A8!84) [17:13:48:343]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding Do_sqlGroupMember.D20239D7_E87C_40C9_9837_E70B8D4882C2 property. Its value is '110Installing Local Groups50000SQLServer2005SQLBrowserUser$PHOENIXDEV2PHXNT1ADMINISTRATOR'.
my domain was upgraded from nt to 2003 long time ago from phxnt1 to phxad1 which i dont know why it still try's to use the old account. The old domain is still online would this cause this problem not sure.
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Has anyone else experienced SQL Express resetting to Windows Authentication only instead of mixed mode for logins after a power failure. I only noticed it happen today as we had 2 power outages in the office and it happened both times. If anyone has seen this happen or knows of a fix please let me know.
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Aug 12, 2015
We have see login failures for windows accounts. Below is the error message.
Description: In our env most logins are windows accounts. Initially we thought it is an UAC issue and we tried to launch the SSMS using "Run as Administrator". However, we are seeing login failures.
Enviroment:
Microsoft SQL Server 2014 - 12.0.2402.0 (X64)
RTM Enterprise Edition (HyperVisor)
Error Message in Error Log :
2015-08-10 22:36:45.290 Logon Error: 18456, Severity: 14, State: 11.
2015-08-10 22:36:45.290 Logon Login failed for user 'domainloginname'. Reason: Token-based server access validation failed with an infrastructure error. Check for previous errors. [CLIENT: 10.xxx.xxx.xxx]
[code]....
We tried dropping this account and re-creating the windows account with same permissions but still result is same. It throws same error message. Login failure message !!!
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Jun 1, 2006
I have a very confusing problem that I'm going to attempt to relay concisely:
I have a LAN on which I'm running an Intranet web site built in ASP.Net 2.0 and using SSRS / Sql Server 2005 on the same server.
The name of the box is "warehouse" or "warehouse.mydomain.us." When I ping "warehouse," I get a response from 137.86.166.8, as I should. Likewise, I get a response from 137.86.166.8 when I ping "warehouse.mydomain.us." If I do a "ping -a" on 137.86.166.8, it correctly resolves to "warehouse.mydomain.us." Based on the facts presented in this paragraph, I believe that my DNS is working as expected.
Using IE (6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519) with "low" security settings, I navigate to http://warehouse.mydomain.us/lex/ (Lex is the name of the app) and it authenticates me to the index page (which calls the SSRS web service to get and display a list of available reports), except that I get the login prompt three times. If I hit F5 (refresh), I get three more login prompts and then I get a 401.1 error. From this point, no matter what I do, I can not see the index page again without closing and restarting IE.
I know that IE only passes credentials to certain sites, so I add my domain (http://warehouse.mydomain.us/) to the Local Intranet list ( Tools->Internet Options->Security->Local Intranet->Advanced) and then I can refresh and see my index page once, but I still get 3 login attempts and then the same thing happens -- I refresh and go through 3 logins and then get a 401.1.
If I now change my address bar to read http://137.86.166.8/lex, I get a single login and it works like a champ. This makes me think that there's a DNS problem, so I open up Mozilla Firefox and wouldn't you know it -- Firefox works like a champ all around -- one single sign-in, it keep credentials between Lex and SSRS, and it appears to use the DNS correctly. However, I can't use Firefox because I can't get any of the SSRS reports to look like they're supposed to in Mozilla-based browsers.
Argh.
I have set my IE securtiy settings to "Low." I have added the primary domain to the Local Intranet list and also to the Trusted Sites list (but you can't do both at the same time). I have even added the internal IP to my "hosts" file.
Does anyone know anything that might be a help to me in getting this figured out?
Other notes of interest:
My machine is an XP machine, but is not on the domain, but I do have a valid domain login that I use and it works in Firefox without problem.
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All,
Is there a way, in SQL Server 6.5, to continue processing within a stored procedure even though an error occurs? An example I am inserting records into a temp table within a stored procedure, and there may be duplicate UNIQUE keys, I simply want the procedure to continue inserting records ignoring the failure.
Thank you,
Scott Kolek
Development Manager
SKM Software
http://www.skm-software.com
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How to give authentication for Send Mail Task component?
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Apr 18, 2007
Hi there,I have installed MS SQL Server 2005 on my machine with windows authentication. But now I want to switch the authentication mode to SQL Authentication. I am unable to switch, I can’t find the proper way to do so here in 2005.Could any one help me in doing this?Thank you,-Ahsan
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Mar 25, 2004
Hello,
(Using win2k, sqlserver2k, framework 1.1)
I have an fairly data-heavy application that uses Windows authentication (Trusted connection/aspnet account) to connect to Sql Server. The site uses IIS basic authentication.
On the dev server everything works fine but when I move to the live server things get strange and it starts to crawl along. (Pages load OK but then it just crawls as it loads the datagrids etc. Sometimes it brings back incomplete/incorrect data )
BUT When I use Sql Authentication to connect to Sql Server and there is no problem at all!
Ok, there is something obviously wrong with the live server (which is identical setup to dev)but I dont know where to start.
Any ideas??
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May 15, 2006
Hi all,
I've got two applications which both have a database on my MS SQL 2000 server. The problem is, one application must use Windows Integrated Authentication (which it is currently using and cannot be changed) whilst the other application which I'm trying to configure must use a SQL password.
Since the server has already been configured to use Windows Integrated Authentication for the existing database and application, how do I configure the other database to use the SQL password?
Thanks.
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May 12, 2006
Hi all,
My work is using a shared application
which accesses a MSSQL 2000 database. To access the application, the
folder on the Windows 2003 Server is shared and users can access the
folder through a shared drive.
For the application to access the
database, it uses an ODBC connection to the MSSQL server which
originally used the SA password.
We have recently switched to using
Windows Integrated Authentication because we believe it offers a
higher level of security. However the only way in which we have been
able to enable this is to add the windows users to the SQL server.
The problem with this is that the
application sets permissions for individual users on what records
they can see within the database. We have found that by adding the
windows users to the SQL Server, they can bypass the permissions the
set by the application by simply using any application that can use
an ODBC connection, such as Enterprise Manager, and see all the
database.
One way around this would be to set up
domains of users with access privileges to the tables which reflect
the permissions set by the application, and configuring a view of the
data so they may only see the records that they have permissions to.
However to do this would require a high administrative cost to ensure
that changes made in the application are reflected in the privileges
of the SQL server.
Instead, is there a way the SQL server
can authenticate that the ODBC connection is coming from the correct
application using Windows Integrated Authentication?
This would allow the applcation to
determine security, and stop users from connecting to the SQL server
using other applications.
Alternatively, can the SQL server,
using Windows Integrated Authentication, also ask the application to
supply a username and password?
Any help with this matter would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Mar 26, 2008
Hallo there,
I just upgraded from Windows XP Pro to Windows Vista Bussiness and tried to reinstall SQL Server 2005 Developers Edition. After the installation i downloaded (using microsoft windows update) and installed all the service packs for sql and vista available.
My problem is when i open sql server management studio and try to connect to my default instance using windows authentication and database engine, an 18456 error occurs.
I enabled all the protocols and all the ports
I disabled windows firewall and antivirus (eset nod32)
I installed all service packs available
I have also installed Visual Studio 2005 without installing sqlexpress
But nothing happens!
Please i am very desperate, any information will be gratefully accepted.
This is my installation Information
Code Snippet
Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 9.00.3042.00
Microsoft Analysis Services Client Tools 2005.090.3042.00
Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 6.0.6001.18000 (longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
Microsoft MSXML 3.0 5.0 6.0
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0.50727.1434
Operating System 6.0.6001
Thank you in advance,
Patonios
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Jul 12, 2007
We just replaced an older Windows 2000 sp4 server with a new Window 2003 Standard Edition sp2 server to run our batch processing. We noticed that when the SQL command times out we now get the following error in the ADO command object error collection.
[DBNETLIB][ConnectionWrite (send()).] General network error. Check you network documentation.
Native Error: 11
SQL State: HY018
msado15.dll version 2.82.3959 is on this server.
On other servers running Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition sp1 the error on the ADO command object is normal with.
Timeout expired
Native Error: 0
SQL State: HYT00
msado15.dll version 2.82.1830 is on this server.
The SQL server they are talking to is on the other side of a firewall. It is SQL 2005 sp2 running on Windows 2000 sp4.
I have also tested this on a Windows 2003 sp2 server that doesn't have to cross a firewall and get the correct Timeout error. It also has the same version of msado15.dll as problem server.
The application is a collection of VB6 Components that are running in COM+ applications. I have isolated the test application to our one SQL interface component and have build a test vbs that can reproduce this on demand. The VB6 Components were not modified in any way for this change and have been working fine for many years prior to this.
All other aspects of our batch processing works as expected. Transactions are working fine. As long as the SQL doesn't timeout everything is normal. DTCPing was used to ensure both servers have correct ports open to allow DTC traffic. Checked the SynAttackProtect setting on SQL and this is not an issue since other clients have no problems.
One point I would like to add is that this new server was initially setup with a temporary server name and then was changed to use the name of the original server on move day. Don't know if this has any impact or not.
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Sep 26, 2006
I'm trying to run a test from my test environment which is a non-domain Windows 2000 server to access my domain 2003 with SQL2005. I have install 2005 tools to try to access the SQL server.
- I have try following the KB265808 - no success.
- Reading alot of blogs and it seems all are pointing to the same problem. "Remote access" but the settign is enabled.Error Message:
TITLE: Connect to Server
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Cannot connect to ardsqldatawh.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
An error has occurred while establishing a connection to the server. When connecting to SQL Server 2005, this failure may be caused by the fact that under the default settings SQL Server does not allow remote connections. (provider: Named Pipes Provider, error: 40 - Could not open a connection to SQL Server) (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 53)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&EvtSrc=MSSQLServer&EvtID=53&LinkId=20476
Question: Could Windows 2003 security be blocking access? I'm using sa account to access.
Also, sa account does not seems to work for remote access. It is ok when accessing locally.
Any help would be appreciated.
949jc
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May 8, 2003
Hello
Can anyone tell me what is the difference between sql authentication and windows authentication.
Examples of each would be very useful
Many thanks in advance
Steve
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Oct 16, 2006
Would anyone please help me out here. which of the 2 modes of authentication is better and why??
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Dec 18, 2006
Hi,
Say, I have configured my SQL to use Mixed Authentication. Now, I have a applicaiton which uses my SQL Server. The application just creates a database in SQL Server and uses the database to store its information.
This application also has a SYSTEM DSN under ODBC through which it accesses the database. For the application to access this database, should I only use SA (as my SQL instance is configured to use Mixed Authentication) or can I use Windows Authentcation too...
If I should only use SA, do we have a documentation which talks about this.
Thanks
Santhosh
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Mar 12, 2008
For using different services of SQL SERVER 2005 which is better...
Windows Authentication or SQL Server Authentication?
what are the advantages and disadvantages of both?
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Apr 4, 2007
Hi,
I am new to Reporting Services. I want to use Reporting Services 2005 in our application.
My custom web application is on one machine and Reporting Services 2005 is on other machine. I am using Forms Authentication and using Single Sign On for login
If my custom web application and Reporting Services are on same machin I can get "Authentication Ticket" issued by ReportingServices2005 to the Report server.
But in this case I am not able to get "Authentication Ticket" on Report Server since it is on other machine.
I am using ReportViewer control in my web application to display Reports and using LogonUser method to get the Authentication Ticket.
How can I pass CookieAuthentication ticket from my Custom Web Application to Report Server?
Is there any work around to pass Authentication Cookie across Domain or any other solution for this?
Regards
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Sep 8, 2006
I have several access databases in mind to migrate to SQL server. I installed MS SQL 2005 Express on my machine. I will have procedures to run with authorizations beyond that of a common user, such as database administrative work where server agent is not available, I may rely on users' log-on prompt to do some maintenance work. However, I cannot get the EXEC AS 'DomainUser' to work. The procedures can be created OK. But whenever they are called, the following message shows up:
Msg 15404, Level 16, State 19, Procedure XXX, Line 0
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I tried to tweak with the account under which the server service is running. There are three options under built-in account: Local system, Local service, and Network Service. My understanding is that Network Service will use the log-on of the current user of the computer. I have admin right of the computer. None of the three options work. Additionally, when I specify an account (my own account), it's the same thing.
The procedure xp_logininfo always fails when I query a specific domainuser.
The ADHelper is configured to run manually.
I could not think of other ways to get a possible solution. Any help is much appreciated.
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Hi.
I wonder if it is possible to set forms authentication for report manager but leave report server "as it is". I need to authenticate users from external LDAP and can't use windows authentication for report manager, but I would also like to leave report server open for anonymous users. In that way authenticated administrators could create reports which anonymous users could read.
I tested the Security Extension Sample and got it working when I rewrote the authentication part with my own LDAP authentication.
If I have understood correctly, the report manager is just application inside report server so is it possible to use forms authentication with one application but still leave the report server with Windows authentication?
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Jul 20, 2005
I have observed that a temporary loss of a domain controller can causeproblems creating new ado connections between a client machine runningado and a separate sql server machine that are members of the domain.I understand why this happens when creating connections with windowsauthentication. What is a mystery is that it also sometimes effectsnew connections that use "sql authentication". Below is a descriptionof my test scenario.a. Setup 3 machines.i. one domain controller machine. windows 2000 based. I have triedboth a regular domain setup and a domain setup in compatibility mode.ii. one sql server machine that is a member of the domain. windows2000.iii. one client machine running an ado test program that communicateswith the sql server machine. I have tried both 2000 and xp.b. Start your test ado program and create a connection.c. Fire a query.d. It should work.e. Unplug the network cord on the domain controller.f. Create a new connection and fire a new connection about a minute orso after.g. It should work. Apparently the client caches account informationfrom the domain controller for a certain amount of time. The timeseems to be shorter by default in xp than 2000.h. Wait 20 minutes or more.i. Create another new connection. You will notice a timeout error.If your using windows authentication the timeout will happen 100% ofthe time. That is to be expected. If your using sql authenticationthe timeout seems to happen about 50% of the time. I can't explain itother than some strange Microsoft bug. I speculate that it may besome bug with the way ado caches connections. Perhaps a previouslysetup windows authentication connection gets reused by a request for asql authentication connection. However I haven't been able to proveit.Any insight you can offer would be appreciated. I also have a testprogram you can use to reproduce this behavior if you are interested.Thanks,Frank
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I have SQL 2005 installed in a virtual (ESX) environment with a separate DC. Every minute or so an event shows up in the Application Event Log that says:
Type: Failure Audit
User: dgtestdc1$
Computer: sql1
Source: MSSQLSERVER
Category: (4)
Event ID: 18456
Description:
Login failed for user 'dgtestdc1$'. [Client: <ip address>]
Data includes: SQL1 master
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Thanks,
Mindy
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I looked up this error and most sites point towards a Windows 8 homegroup issue. Since this is a on a domain, I don't think it is relevant. I also added the service accounts from server A to Server B and visa versa. I even added the computer objects to its opposite partner..I have attempted to use "Join Only" and do a manual copy.
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I'm getting the message
Your account information could not be verified
Press Ok to return .....
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I'm running and instance of sql server called development if that helps any.
thanks.
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