What Will Be A Good Way To Backup Master Db?
Mar 9, 2005
Currently, I have set up maintenance plan to backup all the databases and I am only the most recent copies. This works very good for me on most of the databases. However, I am having a potential problem with backing up master database.
Based on what I know, I cannot perform a restore on master database. So I am wondering if anyone is able to advise me on a good method to backup the master database and restore it when it needs to be.
Thank you.
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Feb 9, 2008
Hi,
I am using a stored procedure to take backup of my database from the Visual Basic Programming.
Before i posted one of my thread with the same thing, so i was recommended to go through with DMOSQL do deal with SQL server with Visual Basic Programming. For me, this takes some time to understand the complete concept.
Because of urgent i am using stored procedure to take backup with the following:
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ALTER PROCEDURE dbo.BackUPBLMSDB
(
@RP nvarchar(200)
)
AS
declare @backupfilename nvarchar(200)
set @backupfilename=@RP
BACKUP DATABASE [BLMSDB] TO DISK = @backupfilename WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'BLMSDB-Full Database Backup', SKIP, NOREWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
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Example @RP="D:ackupBackup-1 09-02-2008 11-24"
Every time i am passing a parameter with somename and dateandtime(System).
Example
Backup-1 09-02-2008 11-24 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 12-30 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 18-10 5400KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 22-00 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 22-00 2900KB
I would like to clear my doubt, is it a good practice to take backup with different names. The above one i store four backups . If the system crashes and i created the new database with the same schema without any data present in the tables, can i restore previous backup database to the newly created database.
Moreover, The first two backups contains "2900KB", the third one is "5400KB" after the data is being modified. Look at the fourth one it is "2900KB". Why the size is being reduced to "2900KB" after taking backup eventhough i didn't delete or added data into the database.
Hope you will solve my problem.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Kashif Chotu
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Mar 12, 2008
Hi.
What I want to know is what the issues/scenarios are of only using copies of mdf/ldf files as backups.
TIA.
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Apr 17, 2007
im performing a backup on the master and i receive this error
"backup database permission denied in database master"
anyone input will be appreaciated.
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Hi,
Server: Msg 4212, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Cannot back up the log of the master database. Use BACKUP DATABASE instead.
The recovery mode is set to full. Why am I not able to back up the log of master?
Thanks.
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Environment: 2 different SQL 2000 servers both with service Pack 1 installed. OS is NT5/Windows 2000 server. Dell 4300 dual processor Servers.
Problem: When I create a maintenance plan to backup the system databases only the model will be backed up. (The model & the msdb are skipped). This occurs whether I select the 'System Databases Only' option, or whether I explicitly select each individual database (from the first page of the Create New Maint Plan Wizard). I can back up the master and msdb manually. But, I cannot get it done through creating a maintenance plan. I find nothing in the SQL Errorlog to explain why this is failing.
Do you have a solution? Even any suggestions? Most appreciated!
Mark Blackburn
Consultant to
California Department of Parks & Rec
Sacramento, CA
mblackburn@parks.ca.gov
-or-
mark_blackburn@yahoo.com
Thanks!
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We run a script to check the blocking issues every morning. We find a LogBack up job for master db running everyday. But the Backup team doesn't see it on their systems. The backup team says, they are not running any backup job . But this backup job shows up in the process Info. So, we manually kill it everyday. It takes a lot of wait time. We can't find where it comes from ?
Below is the info from the Process Info Page
Process ID : 86
User: ABCAdmistrator
Database: Master
Status: Runnable
Open Transactions: 0
Command: Backup Log
Application: Symantec Backup Exec for Windows
Wait Time: 42600844
WaitType: NetworkIO
CPU : 0
Physical IO: 12
memory Used: 1
Login Time: 5/19/2008 10:04:53 PM
Host: XYZ
Network Library : LPC
Network Address: 0015C58947C3
Blocked by : 0
Blocking : 0
This is the info from the Process details
BACKUP LOG [abc_xyc] TO virtual_device = 'abc_xyz_00__bfbdb0fa_9b94_4392_8ce0_0719ad2a00c5_ ' WITH NO_TRUNCATE
Master DB Properties
Size: 71MB
Space Available : 17MB
No of users: 49
Data File location: c:ProgramFilesMicrosoftSQLserverMSSQLdatamast er.mdf
Automatically grow file (enabled) 10%
Transaction Log File: c:ProgramFilesMicrosoftSQLserverMSSQLdatamast log.ldf
Automatically grow file (enabled) 10%
Reocovery Model (Master): Simple
Auto update stats, and Auto create stats enabled.
Please let me know if any one knows what the problem was??
Thanks
Rahul
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Hi,
On a large production SQL servers how often should the Master and MSDB Backups be performed?
We currently do one every night but I am thinking this is overkill, would once a week be sufficient?
Cheers
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I am trying to replicate our production SQL 6.5 environment on an isolated network for Y2K testing. I have installed SQL 6.5 on the test server, then ran sp_help_revdatabase on the production server to generate scripts for recreating the databases for testing. I used a zip drive to move dumps of the user databases from production to test. I now need to move over data from the master db, to recreate security and logins. But I don't think I can simply do a dump and restore, as I am not creating copies of all the production databases from our production server, just a few of them. Does anyone have a suggestion for a procedure to replicate the info I need from our production master database? Am I correct that restoring a dump of our production master database to the Y2K environment would be inappropriate?
Please advise.
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Nov 9, 2004
:eek:
Okay. I changed the times that the transaction logs are backed up, via the built in maintenance schedule. It was then that I started to get failures only on the Transaction log backup for the master. The error that I get from the history log is Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored. If I look in the file that is saved to disk :
Starting maintenance plan 'DB Maintenance Plan1' on 09/11/2004 02:30:00
Backup can not be performed on database 'master'. This sub task is ignored.
[1] Database onyx: Transaction Log Backup...
Destination: [R:BACKUPonyxonyx_tlog_200411090230.TRN]
** Execution Time: 0 hrs, 0 mins, 23 secs **
[2] Database onyx: Verifying Backup...
** Execution Time: 0 hrs, 0 mins, 8 secs **
Deleting old text reports... 1 file(s) deleted.
End of maintenance plan 'DB Maintenance Plan1' on 09/11/2004 02:30:31
SQLMAINT.EXE Process Exit Code: 1 (Failed)
I changed the backup back to its original time as this was the only change made. This has not resolved the problem. As I am new to SQL and still finding my feet All the other SQL maintenance plans that I changed are working fine.
Thanks
Steve
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Version: 10.00.1600 (I believe the first 2008 release)
I made a backup from the master, model and msdb system tables. Now I travelled to a different country, and I only have the backups and would like to access them. I was able to restore the master db to a new installation of mssql but, it wont start. I do know why: as I read after I quickly realised that master backups take the accounts, serverID, groups, directory structure, and lots of other things.Basically I have no chance of doing a master restore. The question here: Is there any way of getting my data out from the master backup file (thats where my stuff is)? I'm thinking of "restoring" it to a separate non-master db, table, anything. I know now that I did the most stupidest thing ever, but believe me I don't want the last half years work to just disappear.
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the restored copy is residing on "f:"
when i restore the backup and restart, the server does not start.
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or the process followed by me is wrong/incomplete.
do let me know...TIA
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I have my master database with 10 MB datafile and 4 MB log file,But my backup file for the master DB is 11 GB in size.How could it possible.
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Can we take differential backup of Master databae?
If yes please give me details how?
if No Please give me details why not?
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Hello,
My master database (MS SQL 2005) has simple recovery model, however, when performing diff backup of "all databases", I am getting the following error:
Executing the query "BACKUP DATABASE [master] TO DISK = N'X:\Database Backups\diff backups\master\master_backup_200803251235.bak' WITH DIFFERENTIAL , NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'master_backup_20080325123514', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error: "You can only perform a full backup of the master database. Use BACKUP DATABASE to back up the entire master database.
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
If I choose to back up only "All user databases", then it performs just fine. Why I cannot run diff backup of master?
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Newbie to backups here. I'm trying to setup a Maintenence Plan for backing up the system tables. For some reason the Differential backup on the Master table is failing.
Can you NOT run differential backups on the Master table?
Thanks.
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Hi,
I tried to backup the master key by the following syntax :
OPEN MASTER KEY DECRYPTION BY PASSWORD = 'mypassword'
BACKUP MASTER KEY TO FILE = 'c: empmaster' ENCRYPTION BY PASSWORD = 'mypassword'
but it failed and i got the following message:
Cannot write into file 'c: empmaster'. Verify that you have write permissions, that the file path is valid, and that the file does not already exist.
NB: I am using the "sa" user to execute this command.
I know that we have a security permission issue , but where and how ?
Regards,
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SQL Server MVP
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Hope this makes sense.
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