Why Should We Sample Nested Table Separetely For Data Mining Model Trainings?
Dec 1, 2006
Hi, all here,
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
I dont think we should sample any nested tables for data mining model training? Since I think any nested tables are bound to the case table. Therefore whenever we sample the case table, the nested tables are like any other input attributes within the case table to be rectrieved as inputs accordingly?
Thank you very much for any guidance to clear my confusion.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Oct 26, 2006
I can't figure out how to put nested tables into the Data Mining Model Training Transform (SSIS). I can do a simple case table, but how do you get those nested tables with DM Training Transformation? Any ideas? Samples?
Thanks in advance,
-Young K
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May 2, 2006
Hi, all here,
Dose anyone here have information about Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Data Mining trainings available in the UK?
Very appreciated for any information for that.
Thanks a lot in advance for any guidance.
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Sep 29, 2015
I followed the tutorial posted at [URL] ...
Everything was ok until the last step where I had to process the mining structure which resulted in a warning
"Informational (Data mining): Decision Trees found no splits for model, Tbl Decision Tree Example."
What does this error mean? How do I resolve it? Also, I only see the first level in the Mining Model Viewer, I don't see the levels 2 and 3.
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Apr 11, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to model data in analysis services with the Advance Create Mining Model function in the excel addin. I am having trouble creating an association model that works like the Associate button above the Advanced button.
The format of my data is like this
OrderID Product
100 Bike
100 Helmet
100 Shoes
200 Helmet
200 basketball
200 Bat
300 Shoes
300 Socks
The associate button works perfectly since it asks me which column is the transaction id (orderid) and which column I am trying to predict (product). The advanced create mining model asks me to determine what the columns are...
OrderID=key Product=Input+Predict?
When I run the advance create mining model associate, I get a browser that gives me no rules and the support for only one item itemset (each product but no combination of products).
Does anyone know what I have to do to get it to work like the associate button?
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Jul 18, 2006
I perform data mining on all products and a specific product category.
Do I need to create 2 data source views, one for all products and the other one for the specific product category?
Afterward, I run the Data Mining Wizard 2 times to create 2 mining structures.
I also need to add the same mining model (e.g. Bayes, Cluster) to each of these mining structures.
Is there any simple way to do it?
Thanks.
Joe.
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Jun 8, 2006
hi, i am bit new in the field of data warehousing and data mining but catching up fast. I am in the last year of BS(Computer Science) and intend to do a project on a Business Intelligence but i was wondering can i get a sample dummy data for my work is that any way possible??
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May 9, 2007
Hello
I'm looking for sample database for data mining in SQL Server 2005. In my project I need to use all algorithms provided by SQL Server 2005. I know that we have "SQL Server 2005 Samples and Sample Databases" on microsoft.com site, but there are only AdventureWorks data sets. I need sth less popular, but similar.
I have found http://www.kdnuggets.com/datasets/index.html and others, but I don't see data sets good for multidimensional analysis.
The origin of data may be natural or artificial, it doesn't matter.
I don't have to generate my own data, because I had to discover new knowledge, that will be surprising to me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
(sorry for my English)
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Nov 15, 2006
I get the following error when I try to load the mining model in the mining model viewer
Query (1, 6) The '[System].[Microsoft].[AnalysisServices].[System].[DataMining].[NeuralNet].[GetAttributeValues]' function does not exist.
I get a similar error when I try to load the Load Mining Accuracy Chart
Failed to execute the query due to the following error:
Query (1, 6) The '[System].[Microsoft].[AnalysisServices].[System].[DataMining].[AllOther].[GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource]' function does not exist.
I have OWC 11 installed. What am I missing here?
Thanks
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Nov 23, 2007
Hi ...I can't figure out how to put nested tables into the Data Mining Model Training Transform (SSIS). Can anybody help me? some example please...!!!??
Diego B.
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May 29, 2006
I am trying to write some DMX queries to create and populate a mining model as a SSMS analysis services project. I followed the following steps:
1. Create the mining model using a CREATE MINING MODEL ... query.
2. Followed by the - INSERT INTO MINING MODEL ... query, which fetches prediction data from another mining model to populate the mining model.
3. I now want to use this new model for prediction, which requires processing the mining model first. When I process the model, it throws the following error:
Error (Data mining): The 'XYZ_Structure' structure does not contain bindings to data (or contains bindings that are not valid) and cannot be processed.
Please suggest if I am making a mistake in the above procedure. I will appreciate all help in overcoming this issue.
Auxilliary question: How do I process the mining model programmatically?
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Dec 1, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am wondering if there is any kind of ways for us to test data mining models via SSIS package? That'll be quite helpful if there is such a way.
Looking forward to hearing from your guidance and thanks a lot in advance.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Jun 22, 2006
Hi, all here,
I tried to find the graphs I saved from Data Mining Model Viewer, but where is it saved? As we see from the mining model viewer we could save the graphs there by clicking the 'save graph' button, but where is the graph?
Really need help for that.
Thank you very much in advance for any guidance and help for that.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 27, 2007
Lets take the following example:
Movie train table:
ID Class
1 +
2 +
3 -
4 +
5 -
Actor train nested table:
ID MovieID Gender
1 1 F
2 1 M
3 1 F
4 1 F
5 2 M
6 2 M
7 2 F
8 3 F
9 3 F
10 4 M
11 4 M
12 4 F
13 4 F
14 5 F
15 5 M
We want to build a classifier model in order to predict the Class of a Movie based on the Gender of movie's actors. To deal with the nested table Analysis Services maps each record of the nested table to an attribute of the case table. These attributes are named Actor(n).Gender with n = 1..15, and so they are dependent on the nested table record numbers. Both Microsoft Decision Trees and Microsoft Naive Bayes algorihms use these attributes without any modification.
We are implementing a Relational Naive Bayes algorithm and we are planning to aggregate such attributes in order to make them independent of the nested table record numbers.
Next step we tried to predict some unseen cases and here we face with
a very huge problem.
Lets take more two tables of unseen cases:
Movie test table:
ID Class
6 +
7 NULL
8 NULL
Actor test nested table:
ID MovieID Gender
1 6 F
2 6 M
3 6 F
4 6 F
16 7 F
17 7 M
18 7 F
19 7 F
20 7 F
21 8 M
22 8 M
23 8 F
Predicting the movie 6 Class is not a problem since the movie actors were included in the training dataset and when the records are mapped to attributes because they already exist in the model. But when you
try to predict movies (7 an 8) with unseen actors all new attributes are simply ignored in the ALGORITHM:redict call (in_ulCaseValues is zero!) because they do not exist in the model!
What is the solution?
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Aug 1, 2006
How to create a stored procedure to query the data mining model?
Where can I find some sample code?
Thanks.
Joe.
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Nov 16, 2006
Hi all,
I am new to SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services and would like to use the OLAP Cubes as a datasource to build Mining Model . However i would like to use a particular view of the OLAP cube that i have generated to be used as the datasource for the mining model . I find that i am not able to save the Cube View while browsing the OLAP cube in Business Intelligence Studio. Is there a way i can acheive this requirement.
Any ideas regarding this will be really appreciated.
Thanks & Regards,
Satya
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Oct 18, 2006
Dear friends,
I encounter a serious problem.
I would like to develop an application that can create Data Mining structures and a mining model in SQL Server 2005 with VB.NET. I tried the code from book Data Mining with SQL server 2005 in chapter 14 but did not work. Any good idea?
Please help me.
Best regards,
Manolis
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Oct 20, 2006
Thank you very much for your help.
The errors that I can see in the code that you gave in your answer are the following and they are more or less the same as I had previously
I tried the code but initially I have encounter the following problems.
1. In any line that have the declaration As Server, As Database like in
Public Function CreateDatabase(ByVal srv As Server, ByVal databaseName As String) As Database gives me the problem that type Database is not declared the same type Server is not declared and it does not give me any option.
2. In addition to that for As DataSource, As RelationalDataSource, As RelationalDataSourceView, As ScalarMiningStructureColumn, As DataSourceViewBinding, gives me the problem that type is not declared.
3. Finally in mc = New MiningModelColumn("Yearly income", Utils.GetSyntacticallyValidID("Yearly income", Type.GetType(MiningModelColumn))) is not accesible in this context because it is 'Private'.
I have some more problems but I thing that by solving the above that I referred I will solve the rest.
Thank you any way.
Best regards,
Manolis
PhD student
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May 18, 2007
We've successfully processed a large decision tree model in SQL Server 2005. When I try to view the tree in the mining model viewer, I get the following error:
TITLE: Microsoft Visual Studio
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The tree graph cannot be created because of the following error:
'Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.'.
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft%u00ae+Visual+Studio%u00ae+2005&ProdVer=8.0.50727.42&EvtSrc=Microsoft.AnalysisServices.Viewers.SR&EvtID=ErrorCreateGraphFailed&LinkId=20476
The link provides no other documentaiton on the error.
We're using 64-bit SQL on a Dell Workstation running XP-64 with 16GB of memory. From my view of things we aren't close to running out of memory. Since the model processed and the error occurs when viewing the model, is this a problem with Visual Studio and nont necessarily Anlaysis Services?
Thanks in advance.
Nick
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Mar 15, 2008
I probably posted my question in the wrong forum so please check here:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3009605&SiteID=17
thanks
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Oct 25, 2007
I am attempting to create the "Classification - Children at Home" Data Mining Model as described in Larson's book.
Each time that I create it.. ONLY the ALL LEVEL is shown and it is impossible to expand the model to look at the Decision Tree, Neural Network, or the Clustering model etc. Drill down is enabled (tried it with and without enabling the drill down).
The Children at Home field has been populated with values from 0 - 4.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
regards Steve
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Oct 25, 2007
I am attempting to create the "Classification - Children at Home" Data Mining Model as described in Larson's book.
Each time that I create it.. ONLY the ALL LEVEL is shown and it is impossible to expand the model to look at the Decision Tree, Neural Network, or the Clustering model etc. Drill down is enabled (tried it with and without enabling the drill down).
The Children at Home field has been populated with values from 0 - 4.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
regards Steve
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Sep 14, 2007
Hi,
I am not getting Mining Accuracy Chart and Min ing Model Prediction
Plz tel me how to do.And how to use the filter input data used to generate the lift chart and
select predictable mining model columns to show in the lift chart
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Apr 26, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am wondering where can I store my mining results in data mining engine? For example, I got mining results like accuracy chart, decision trees, and other formats of results based on different mining algorithms I used for my data mining, so where can I actually store the results for reporting service use later? Is it possible to do that in SQL Server 2005?
Thanks a lot for any help and guidance in advance.
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Oct 27, 2007
Hi all,
I have MS Time Seeries model using a database of over a thousand products each of which has hundreds of cases. It amazingly takes only a few minutes to finish processing the model, but when I click Mining Model Viewer to view the models, it takes many hours to show up. Once the window is open, I can choose model for different products almost instantly. Is this normal?
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Aug 17, 2006
Hi,
I've tried those two operations in the Management Studio.
Though we can create a mining structure and mining model in Management Studion,
but we cannot process the analysis-service database.
(1) I create only a mining structure through CREATE MINING STRUCTURE.
No error reported. But if I process the analysis-service database in Management Studio I always get error
'Error : The '<mining_structure__name>' structure does not contain bindings to data
(or contain bindings that are not valid) and cannot be processed.
I then tried to create it by creating and running an XMLA script. It was successful.
However, it's much harder to learn XMLA.
If any of you created an analysis-service database in Mgt Studio, and create a mining
structure in the same place using DMX script, can you process the database?
(2) Is there any use of CREATE MINING STRUCTURE operation without binding
to any table? Examples I saw so far did not show relating it to do. In my experience
processing the analysis-service database with that mining structure is doomed to fail.
(3) Is there any way we can create mining structure through CREATE MINING
STRUCTURE operation in Management Studio and use RELATED TO clause
to bind it to any Relationship to an attribute column (mandatory only if it applies), indicated by
the RELATED TO clause
(4) If this is the fact, is there any use of CREATE MINING STRUCTURE operation?
If we use BI Dev Studio, it's much easier to use the wizard.
(5) I found I cannot create a mining model inside a mining structure through operation
CREATE MINING MODEL. If you call that operation, you end up having a mining
model and a mining structure with the same name. I found that in order to create a
mining model inside a mining structure you have to call operation ALTER MINING
STRUCTURE ADD MINING MODEL. Is it true this is the only way?
Thank you,
Bernaridho
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May 17, 2007
Hi,
I'm working on a project to create a mining model.I have one "flattened" table with a productID (key) and related attributes. Example columns are weight, color, price, units sold last year, product category, product rating (top seller, etc) and similar columns, about 40 in total. There are about 15,000 products and same number of rows in the table.
The objective is to pass a ProductID (that also exists in the table) and get back the top N products that most resemble the source product based on all the attributes.
Any advice on which models I should test and how to set up the models would be much appreciated. Also if there is a similar example/sample out there, please let me know. I downloaded the MovieClick sample, but that doesn't work in my case as I only have the equivalent of the Customers table.
Thanks in Advance.
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Jan 30, 2006
hi guys,
i have the following category table...
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[categories] (
[cat_id] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
[dModified] [datetime] NULL ,
[dCreated] [datetime] NULL ,
[cat_parent_id] [int] NULL ,
[cat_lft] [int] NULL ,
[cat_rgt] [int] NULL ,
[cat_image] [varchar] (255) COLLATE Latin1_General_CI_AS NULL ,
[cat_sort_order] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
i now wish to add a levels column which indicates (funnily enough :)) which level each record is on starting from 1.
is there a query i can use which will output for me the levels based on the child/parent relationship?
regards
mike
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Feb 23, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
I would like to know if there is any way to migrate third-party data mining packages with SQL Server 2005 data mining algorithms together then we can have a comparison among all of them to get the best results for training models.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks a lot.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 31, 2006
Hoping someone will have a solution for this error
Errors in the metadata manager. The data type of the '~CaseDetail ~MG-Fact Voic~6' measure must be the same as its source data type. This is because the aggregate function is not set to count or distinct count.
Is the problem due to the data type of the column used in the mining structure is Long, and the underlying field in the cube has a type of BigInt,or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Apr 30, 2015
I'm a beginner with SQL 2012 SSDT & SSMS. I get this error message when I try to deploy my project:
"Error 6
Error (Data mining): KEY SEQUENCE columns are not supported at the case level. The 'Customer Key' column of the 'TK448 Ch09 Cube Clustering' mining structure contains content that is not valid.
0 0
"
I am finding it hard to locate the content that is not valid. I've been trying to find a answer for this problem but can't seem to find anything. How can I locate the content that is not valid and change or delete it so that I can deploy this solution?
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Jun 4, 2015
Having successfully created :
- a data mining structure with about 80 columns.
- a data mining model using Microsoft_Decision_Trees with 2 prediction columns.
I thought I would then explore the possibility of have more than 2 prediction columns, in this case 20.
I get an error message and I can't work out :
a) if this is because there's a limit to the maximum number of prediction columns and where that maximum is stated.
b) if something else has become corrupted
c) there's a know bug and if the error message is either meaningful or not.
Either way, I'm unable to complete the data mining wizard
The error message is :Errors in the metadata manager. Either the mining structure with the ID of '[my model Structure]' does not exist in the database with the ID of 'DMAddinsDB', or the user does not have permissions to access the object.
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Jun 26, 2007
Mining Model Prediction... what for?
Which Data Mining algorithm use Mining Model Prediction?
Every algorithm has to use Mining Model Prediction for a final goal of a Data Mining Project?
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