Workgroup Edition && .Net Framework Support
Jan 25, 2006
Hi there,
I have a problem understanding the feature comparison chart for the different Sql2005 editions. It has the two lines (right under Database Engine)
- Microsoft .Net Framework
- CLR runtime integration
According to the chart the Workgroup Edition does not support the .Net Framework. But it does support the CLR runtime integration. So what does that effectively mean? What is possible, what not (like writing SPs in C#, access to web services or I/O)?
Would be great if someone could clarify the support for CLR/.Net in that area
Thanks in advance, Frank
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Mar 24, 2008
I've heard that the Standard version supports the use of CommandNotification and that the Express version does not. What about the Workgroup edition?
The reason I'm asking is because there is a substantial monthly difference in cost between the two versions if I were to have my site hosted. I've been developing with MS SQL 2005 Express so obviously I have not tested this caching feature. Are command notifications reliable? On paper, it sounds impressive and extremely efficient especially if a site is to have heavy traffic and you can't afford the overhead of heavy database processing that is useless if the data is unchanged.
Does the Workgroup edition support automatic change notifications? Have automatic notifications been proven reliable and vastly more efficient than crude polling methods?
Thanks in advance.
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Feb 8, 2008
I'd like to upgrade from my current SQL Server version: 09.00.3042 (Workgroup edition that comes with SBS upgrade) to the standard edition that I've just purchased. I've attempted to run setup.exe SKUUPGRADE=1 from the command prompt and it just tells me that there's nothing new to install.
I don't really want to uninstall the current installation just to do something that shouldn't be complicated to do, upgrading software versions should not be a difficult process.
Does anybody have any experience with this?
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Mar 20, 2008
I need to run a trace on a SQL 2005 Workgroup Edition. Profiler is onlyavailable in Standard and Enterprise?SQL 2005 BOL refers to serveral SPs and functions for tracing but I don'thave those in my workgroup edition.Any other options? Can I connect a SQL 2000 Profiler to 2005?Thanks.
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May 1, 2006
Hello,
If I have an instance of SQL Server 2005 Workgroup, am I able to run simple ETL packages against it? By simple I mean:
1. Extract data from a comma separated flat file.
2. Load the flat file data to an Access (2002/2003) database.
3. Load the flat file data to a SQL 2005 table.
4. Execution of .dtsx package.
5. Ways to execute a package (i.e. can schedule a package to be run with the SQL Server Agent)?
6. Notification (i.e. SMTP email) on events from package (i.e. on error).
I have been using the Developer Edition, which I know has all/most of the features of Enterprise. How do the SSIS features change between Developer and Workgroup editions?
TIA!!!
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Oct 5, 2006
Good day,
We have developed an application using VS 2005 and SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition.
Currently, our client is asking if they could buy the SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition.
Is it ok? I'm afraid that the SP we made using CLR and any other functionality might not work.
We are suggesting our client to use the SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition instead. But for them to save money, can they use the Workgroup Edition instead?
I would really appreciate your help.
Thanks and more power,
Arthur
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Sep 9, 2006
i have SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition
how to connect to it from vb.net 2005 because i try but no use
thanks in advance.
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Oct 31, 2006
Hi
I have the following problem :
I have licensed a german version of sbs 2003 premium. With the upgrade to sbs 2003 r2, I will buy the rights to use the sql 2005 workgroup edition. But the german sbs 2003 r2 is not available by now.
I could go in production with the sql 2005 trial, this is an entreprise edition.
My question is : can I downgrade the sql server 2005 from this trial edition (entreprise) to the workgroup edition ? Is it possible ? easy ? any recommendations ?
Many thanks !
Ferrarirosso
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Feb 1, 2007
I have a package that does an FTP and some File System Tasks. It runs perfectly fine in BIDS but doesn't want to run via SQL Agent. Is the SQL Server Edition the problem?
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May 19, 2008
Hi all,
I am trying to install the workgroup edition on Windows SBS 2003 R2. After the removal of an unwanted
SQL Express Edition installation - the standard install of SQL 2005 from CD hangs during setup.
In the log file _WI.log is:
...
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:14:968]: Pathbuf: 0, pcchPathBuf: 0
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:14:968]: MsiProvideAssembly is returning: 1607
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:14:968]: No System Restore sequence number for this installation.
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:14:968]: Unlocking Server
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:14:968]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Deleting UpdateStarted property. Its current value is '1'.
MSI (s) (B0:2C) [23:01:15:015]: MainEngineThread is returning 1603
MSI (s) (B0:A0) [23:01:15:109]: Destroying RemoteAPI object.
MSI (s) (B0:80) [23:01:15:109]: Custom Action Manager thread ending.
MSI (c) (B4:54) [23:01:15:125]: Back from server. Return value: 1603
MSI (c) (B4:54) [23:01:15:125]: Decrementing counter to disable shutdown. If counter >= 0, shutdown will be denied. Counter after decrement: -1
MSI (c) (B4:54) [23:01:15:125]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Deleting SECONDSEQUENCE property. Its current value is '1'.
Aktion beendet um 23:01:15: ExecuteAction. Rückgabewert 3.
MSI (c) (B4:54) [23:01:15:125]: Skipping action: FatalError (condition is false)
Aktion beendet um 23:01:15: INSTALL. Rückgabewert 3.
Any advice would be great!
THufschmidt
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Jun 6, 2006
hello,
i have no idea what i am doing here and could use some help from someone who knows what they are doing.
i have a proliant ml350 g3 server running windows 2003 server with sql express 2005 software.
all the databases are running in compatibility sql 7 mode.
I would like them to be in sql 2005 mode if possible. Is there a way to upgrade the databases in the process?
here's a plan I came up with:
take sql workgroup 2005 edition evaluation, install it on a machine.
Mount all databases on the machine.
Wipe out the sql express 2005 machine, reinstall workgroup edition on the new server.
but here is my question
is there a way to migrate the data from the workgroup edition over to the new server through a DTS copy process, and if so, will it create a new version of the databases with the proper collation or the proper english?
please let me know. if this works, i will be thrilled!
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Jul 26, 2007
I will be installing a new, SBS2003 R2 server that comes with SQL 2005 Workgroup Edition. We currently have a SQL 2000 Standard server. Can I installed SQL2000 Standard on SBS2003 R2? The reason for this is that we're not ready to migrate to SQL2005 and we need to continue running SQL2000.
Thanks.
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Feb 1, 2007
Hello,
when I try to upgrade SQL Server 2005 using this command line:
setup.exe /qb SKUUPGRADE=1 UPGRADE=SQL_Engine INSTANCENAME=Z1 SQLACCOUNT=NT-AUTORITÄTSYSTEM SECURITYMODE=SQL SAPWD=XXXXXX
I get error 28092 (administrator rights needed).
It seems like the upgrade tries to use Windows authentification although I've told it to use SQL Server authentification. Or did I miss a parameter in my command line?
If I do the upgrade manually it works without needing Windows authentification.
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Sep 17, 2007
Hi all. I am using Microsoft Visual Basic .Net 2002 with .NET Framework 1.0. I want to install free SQL Server database. I want to install SQL Server 2005 Express Edition but it requires .NET Framework 2.0. If I installed MSDE 2000, it doesnt have that Enterprise Manager.So, how is this possible for me to use the free SQL Server with that Enterprise Manager ? Thanks in advance.
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Feb 11, 2007
We have only a small busines and haven't got too much experience with servers and now have a proliant server coming in with SBS 2003 R2 Premium with the 4 GB max memory that SBS 2003 can handle according to the specs.
We weren't planning on using the SQL 2005 worlgroup edition up till now, but now we might. According to the specs of SQL server 2005 workgroup edition however, it has a max RAM of 3GB!
Is this going to be a problem and should we keep using our previous DB, or can we migrate toward SQL server with the 4 GB of RAM?
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Dec 13, 2006
I have an SBS 2003 server that is running SQL 2000 standard edition which was recently upgraded to Small Business Server 2003 R2.
I have installed SQL 2005 workgroup edition on the SBS 2003 R2 server which acts both as an AD server and Exchange server. I installed SQL 2005 for the purpose of using SQL 2005 for my sharepoint services on the Small Business Server R2.
Now I have SQL 2000 and SQL 2005 workgroup edition installed, but I'm unsure whether I can uninstall the SQL 2000 and how to know whether the sharepoint instance is running in SQL 2005 or SQL 2000?
Additionally, I have some MSDE's running for WSUS and Server Reporting which are installed by the Small Business Server installation.
Which tools should I use to become familiar with identifying the databases and which version of the database engine is used for which database regardless of whether it is a SQL instance or a MSDE instance.
How can I identify which SQL versions are not in use and whether I can uninstall if not needed.
Thanks!!
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Aug 1, 2006
I have clients that have the MSDE version installed and we need to upgrade there program to the MSSQL 2005. Is there an easy way to convert the data? Should or Could I uninstall MSDE and than install MSSQL2005 WorkGrp? Will there data be affected? Any tips would be appreciated.Thanks!
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Dec 4, 2007
I wanted to install SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, instead of installing .Net Framework 2.0, I installed .Net Framework 3.5. When I tried to install SQL Server 2005 Express Edition I received the following error:
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcStatement::execute_batch
sqlstate=42000, level=16, state=2, native_error=7404, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]The server could not load DCOM.
Error Code: 0x80071cec (7404)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: libodbc_statement.h
Compiler Timestamp: Wed Jun 14 16:28:15 2006
Function Name: OdbcStatement::execute_batch@sysdbupg.sql@56
Source Line Number: 91
I then decided maybe I do need .net framework 2.0, but when I try to install it it says it's already included with the OS.
But the "Programs and Featuers" only list .Net Framework 1.1 and .Net Framework 1,1 Hotfix (KB92979).
I uninstalled .Net Framework 3.5 and tried to install .Net Framework 2.0 again, but it still says it's included in the OS.
After uninstalling .Net Framework 3.5, I tried to install SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, but still received the above error message.
Is .Net Framework 2.0 included with Windows Vista Home Edition?
If it is, any ideas in solving the Server 2005 Express Edition installation error?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Jul 3, 2007
Hello
I have recently downloaded Orcas beta VS product and had no previous version of VS before. The install went clean and I have been able to generate Window apps and web apps with very little issues; however, I have one issue with running a web app using the "view in browser" option for checking an aspx page for validity. If I use the default Northwind database provided and generate an aspx form using the "DataSet" toolbox widget, the tool prompts for the datasource etc. required to generate the required code. I can select the Northwind database and select the desired columns from one of the tables. Once completed, I build the project (clean build) and then select the "view in browser" option to verify the results. The result is an error page indicating a server error ->
Failed to find or load the registered .Net Framework Data Provider.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.
Exception Details: System.Configuration.ConfigurationErrorsException: Failed to find or load the registered .Net Framework Data Provider.
I created on odbc connection to an iSeries(as400) box and was successfull in displaying the table on the webpage! I looked into the web.config file and it appears that all the required XML data is present. Any help would be appreciated as I am fairly green when it comes the .NET world.
Thanks
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Jan 18, 2006
We currently have access to another department's SQL server. However they are taking that server offline within a few months, and we will need to migrate our data and DTS packages to a new solution before then. We have about 30 databases and 20 somewhat simple DTS packages, but only a few users need access. Funding is very tight.
SQL 2005's support of DTS is somewhat of a mystery to me. Docs state with 2000 Enterprise client tools installed + Express edition, that I can run DTS packages on Express edition. But the docs do not state the procedure for doing so, and I cannot register the Express server in the Enterprise manager(states must be using 2005 version of Enterprise manager). It seems I can Design a DTS package that resides on the 2000 server and specify a connection to the Express server, but the DTS package would not run, stating always that the table was in use, and I haven't explored it any further. May have just been a quirk.
I'm trying to conquer this in two pieces:
Cheapest solution for graphical design of DTS packages, or some techniology similar(I think I understand that this is called SSIS in 2005?). This would be needed by 1-4 users.
SQL 2005 Developer Edition for each user, only about $50 per user.
MSDE for each user, but can this house DTS packages and be connected to by enterprise manager?
Cheapest solution for data access and ability to run DTS packages by 2-10 users.
If SQL Express Edition is used to house data, can the DTS packages be distributed in some way that allows the users to run them? I.E. exported as VB code or some sort of file that can be loaded by an Access 2002 or VB.NET frontend.
Can all users have Developer Edition or Desktop edition and run the DTS package from it, but have the DTS package connect to the Express Edition server where the data is housed? Or would this be a violation of what the Developer Edition is intended to be used for?
Any other suggested scenarios are welcome.
Are we allowed to continue using the 2000 Enterprise manager after we no longer have access to a licensed SQL 2000 Enterprise server?
The feature comparison for the different 2005 editions doesn't mention DTS, but I know it works for some editions if the add on components are installed. I'm just not sure which versions support this.
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Sep 10, 2007
Hi-
I am doing some technology research for a new app and was wondering about the desktop operating system support for SQL Server compact edition. This app has a PC component and a mobile component, and both need to be data enabled, with syncronization between the PC and the mobile device.
So it seems like SSCE would be a good fit. Just run the SSCE client on both the PC and the device. But in the system requirements for SSCE it only gives XP as a valid desktop OS...
Is that correct? Obviously, desktop platform support for a production app will need to be broader than just XP.
Will SSCE desktop run on Win98,Win2000,XP Home, and Vista?
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May 23, 2008
Hello
I tried the Beta 1 of the service pack 1 to .net 3.5. If I try to add an entity (and try to save this), I get the Exception "No support for server-generated keys and server-generated values".
How can I add entities to my Sqlce- database?
I tried to give the id- column (primary key) in the database an identity, another time without identity, only primary key --> none of them worked. I always get the same error.
What do I have to change to make successfully a SaveChanges()?
Thanks for your help,
Gerald
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Oct 13, 2006
I have a VERY Legitmate use to install sql 4 workgroups on a pc without licensing it. I am making a disk image for MANY pcs to be imaged and load licensing after the imaging is completed.
I have been able to do this with Windows XP Professional, MS Office 2003 and a couple non-Ms programs. The information for MS software even came from their KB, so I know what I am doing is legit. I just can't find any information on doing this for my sql app.
Any suggestions??
Respectfully,
Frustrated
"Frustrated"
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Aug 4, 2006
Dear friends,
please help,
let me tell you what happens,
1) first i installed Sql Server 2005 Enterprise Edition, everything was working fine except i was not able to create managed objects from BI, like stored procedures, triggers, UDT, etc etc.
2) so i installed VS.net 2005 complete + Sql Server 2005 Express Edition
now i was able to create stored procedures, triggers, etc etc, i'm talking about the CLR objects, ok, i.e. the managed code, but........ i was only able to do this from Sql Server 2005 Express Edition.
whenever i try to create managed objects CLR like stored procedures and stuff from the Sql Server 2005 Enterprise edition it gives me the following error :
"The Sql Server supplied by these connection properties, does not support managed code, please choose a different server"
please help meeeee.. please please, tell me what's the problem ?
below i'm attaching a screenshot of the error....
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Feb 13, 2008
When Standard Edition says it supports 4 processors, is this just the physical processor or do we have to factor in multiple cores?
If SE supports 4 physical quad-core processors, is it written to optimally utilize the quad-core technology or would I be better off using Enterprise Edition?
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Aug 29, 2007
Does Sql server 2005 standard edition support Sql server integration services and SSRS. i saw two conflicting information.
And what is the difference between Integration services with basic transforms and integration services advanced transforms.
Please recommend.
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Sep 22, 2007
Hi,
Can anybody help me with the following problem:
I have Vista Ultimate installed and within Vista .NET Framework 3.0 is installed as a part of the operating system so I can't remove 3.0
Now for MS SQL Server 2005 Express I need .NET Framework 2.0 and the SQL Server 2005 doesn't work with .NET Framework 3.0
Can't install 2.0, get the message that 3.0 is already installed.
Please help me!!
René
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Jan 21, 2008
Does Sql Server Compact Edition 3.5 support RDA synchronization with Sql Server 2000 database?
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Dec 5, 2005
Reader Community
I've just started hosting my newly created Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition web site. Unfortunately the Login group membership functions will not function correctly. Having contacted the web service hosting provider, They replied: "We do not support SQL express2005. The only way to use the extra functions of ASP.NET2 such as group membership is if it is using an SQL 2000 database to connect to. "
Is it possible to design web sites with Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition that store membership details on an SQL 2000 database?
I've just paid £88 approx. $140 for a years subscription, have I chosen the wrong web service hosting provider?
Should I have designed the web site with a better web site design software tool that also makes designing membership login functionality easy, just as Microsoft Visual Web developer 2005 express edition?
Look forward to all comments?
Regards
Philip
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Jan 20, 2006
My package is to copy data from an Access 97 db into a SQL2k5 table.
Problem is that the 'mdb' is subscribed to a 'mdw' workgroup and I have been unable to workout / read how to get the SSIS manager to join the workgroup. Connection fails because "...you don't have necessary permission..."
I was able to do this previously for SQL 2k by messing with the registry, but I'm now on unfamiliar teritory.
Any answers? Cheers.
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Jul 6, 2007
Has anyone had problems like this.
I recently got SQL Server 2005 Workgroup edition. I did the normal
'read everything I could' to make sure I was getting the correct version for my business.
After having to wait 4 weeks to upgrade, as we were waiting for our accounting system to be upgraded to come inline with SQL 2005, I came across the problem where DTS is not really compatible to the degree I needed with this edition.
I have since gone back to the reseller and they say we can't exchange it for Standard edition as 4 weeks has passed.
The only thing we can do is pay out (1 month later) another £6,000 to get the version we need, totaling £11,000
Being that we are a small business, paying out another £6,000 isn't an option.
Does anyone have any good advise on this?
Many thanks
Scott
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Jan 31, 2008
My company has a large-ish website and we are migrating to new
servers. There will be a web server (accessible to the world) backed
by a SQL Server 2005 Standard server (only accessible by the web server and
through VPN/Remote Desktop to administrators and our internal
network). We can either put the database server (which is not in a
cluster) on our domain or leave it in a workgroup. My first thought
is leave it in a workgroup simply for security and reliability (i.e.
if the DC goes down or loses connectivity), but people here are
disagreeing with me.
Should I put the database server (which is not used internally at all)
on the domain or leave it in a workgroup?
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