Any Way To Prevent SSAS Memory From Paging?
May 21, 2007
This morning msmdsrv.exe looked like the following in Task Manager:
Memory Usage: 600,000 K
VM Size: 2,500,000 K
If I understand correctly, that means that a good deal of SSAS memory has been swapped to disk by the OS. Is there any way to prevent this? (I have read about using the Lock Pages In Memory privilege at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms179301.aspx which lets SQL prevent the OS from paging sqlservr.exe memory. I don't suppose there's an equivalent SSAS setting.)
In particular, the symptom I'm seeing is that after we finish processing, all that paged memory has to be loaded back into memory before the transaction can be committed. Committing the transaction is usually very quick. But when most of the SSAS process memory is pages, it takes quite a while, during which I can see the Memory Usage number in Task Manager growing. (I don't think it's a blocked transaction commit.)
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Mar 27, 2008
Hello, I understand that we should use SSMS -> Server Properties -> Memory to put a cap on the SQL server memory usage, therefore it gives some space memory for OS, this is based on the fact if the max memory is not specified, SQL will use whatever available memory and eventually crash the system.
My question is that when a server has SSIS and SSAS services installed along with the SQL service. Would the max memory setting covers the SSIS and SSAS memory usage, or the SSIS and SSAS has to shared the memory with OS?
Thanks,
fshguo.
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Currently, we have the following setup...
SQL 2005 Std, 8gb ram, boot ini switches for /PAE and /3GB, AWE enabled and the min/max memory settings for a single instance respectively set to 1024 and 7168. Performance-wise the system is a bit slower than before (with SQL2000) and there seems to be alot of paging. The SQL service is also running under the "LocalSystem". In this case, do I need to specify the local "SYSTEM" to have rights to "Lock pages in memory"? I have a feeling there is a misconfiguration somewhere. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
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Jan 29, 2007
Summary: We host reports off of one server that are accessed and refreshed 24/7/365. On a daily basis, I receive calls about reports taking several minutes to run IF they run at all. (normally these reports take seconds). There has yet to be an actual "error message" associated with this behavior. When I check the server at these times, I will find that w3wp.exe process is taking up about 4G and is causing paging. It seems that once it gets to that point, it will kill itself and all goes back to normal. However, it's a slow death and is impacting business.
We're using MSRS 2005. Hosting the reports is the job of this server--no other applications are hitting it. There is a development SQL db on the box, but not in use at this time. The datasources in most cases are stored procedures housed on another box. The web interface (for end users running the report) is hosted on a third server.
Any thoughts?
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Hi,
Anyone knows what the size should the Paging File be for a 8 P 16 Core Opteron server with 128GB memory installed? The server will be running SQL 05 Ent and IIS, on top of Win2k3 R2 x64 Ent.
Please also give the reason for that size.
Regards,
dong
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I am monitoring our production server, and noticed that periodically we have spikes of Memory Paging Rate (pages/sec).
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We have several 2005 servers with "Maximum server memory" set to 214 gig, which I believe is the default at installation time. I am told that this means "use all the memory there is including paging." Well, this is nuts but the servers seem to work fine with this setting no matter how much physical memory they have.
One of our 2005 servers recently started paging like crazy, so I reduced "Maximum server memory" to 6000 and the paging disappeared (server has 8 gig of physical memory) and the server appears happy.
I can not explain why only this one server has this paging issue and the others do not. Should I be setting "Maximum server memory" on all my servers? Are there other considerations which might cause the server to eat-up all the memory? As far as I know no other applications run on this box.
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My question is that when a server has SSIS and SSAS services installed along with the SQL service. Would the max memory setting covers the SSIS and SSAS memory usage, or the SSIS and SSAS has to shared the memory with OS?
Thanks,
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May 14, 2008
A question about memory management in querying an SSAS server.
It so happens that users make huge queries on unoptimized elements of the cube.
The result on our server is that memory usage grows very fast, and very far beyond the TotalMemoryLimit that we specified on the server.
Especially, we specified 2.6GB for TotalMemoryLimit, and the performance graphs I have show that memory usage for the service exceeded 4.5GB for some of these bad queries !
As a result, the paging explodes, and put the system on low-memory conditions... Since the service runs on a shared environment, it causes troubles to other services running there...
I understand that the momory limit is a kind of a soft limit that can be exceeded, but not that much !!!
I would prefer the bad queries are automatically killed by the service, replying that it does not have enough memory to complete...
Is there a way to configure the service that way ?
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Oct 11, 2007
I've been researching AWE to determine if we should enable this for our environment.
Currently we have a quad core box with 4 gb of RAM (VMware). OS: Windows 2003 std, SQL Server 2005 std. 3GB is not set but will be as soon as we can perform maintenance on the server.
I have read mixed feedback on AWE, either it works great or grinds you to a hault. I would assume that the grinding to a hault is due to not setting the min/max values correctly or not enabling the lock page in memory setting.
We only have one instance of SQL on the server and this box won't be used for anything else aside from hosting SQL services. We do plan on running SSRS off of this server as well.
1. Will running SSRS and enabling AWE cause me problems? Will I have to reduce the max setting by the SSRS memory usage or will it share and play nice?
2. How do I go about setting the Max value? Should it be less than the physical RAM in the box? Right now its set to the default of 214748364, even if I don't enable AWE should this default value be changed?
3. It seems that even at idle the SQL server holds a lot of memory and the page file grows. If I restart the process in the morning, memory usage in taskmon is at 600mb or so. By the end of the day, its up around 2gb. How can I track down whats causing this, should this even concern me?
4. The lock Page in memory setting worries me. Everything I've read on this seems to give a warning about serious OS and other program support degradation. In some cases to the point where they have to restore the settings on the server before they can bring it back up. What are your thoughts on this.
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Hi there
I've managed to make it query that return a dataset that have 2 views utilising the "Filter" in RS. I treat this as a single record with multiple views.
Now let say if I have a stored precedure that pass 2 parameters one is called state and year and accepting 'ALL' for every possibility of State and Year and construct that into single dataset with 2 views similar like above.
How do I breakdown this in the reporting services so it will have paging?
This is a simple dataset:
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1, "VIEW1", "NSW", 1, null
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3, "VIEW1", "VIC", 1, null
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4, "VIEW1", "VIC", 2, null
4, "VIEW2", null, null, 11001
I would like to break down (paging) this per recordid. Each page obviosuly has 2 views using the same data set with different FILTER.
Do I need to put into a LIST then inside that list put 2 TABLES? Is this possible?!?!
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From Books Online:
• This option is an advanced option and should be changed only by an experienced database administrator or certified SQL Server technician.
• The index create memory option is self-configuring and usually works without requiring adjustment. However, if you experience difficulties creating indexes, consider increasing the value of this option from its run value.
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CREATE PROCEDURE [dbo].[CMRC_PRODUCTS_GetListByCategory]( @categoryID int, @pageIndex INT, @numRows INT, @itemCount INT OUTPUT )AS
SELECT @itemCount= COUNT(*) FROM CMRC_Products where CMRC_Products.CategoryID=@categoryID Declare @startRowIndex INT; Declare @finishRowIndex INT; set @startRowIndex = ((@pageIndex -1) * @numRows) + 1; set @finishRowIndex = @pageIndex * @numRows
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INSERT INTO @tCat(ProductID, CategoryID,SellerUserName,ModelName,Medium,ProductImage,UnitCost,Description,CategoryName, isActive,weight)SELECT CMRC_Products.ProductID, CMRC_Products.CategoryID, CMRC_Products.SellerUserName, CMRC_Products.ModelName, CMRC_Products.Medium,CMRC_Products.ProductImage, CMRC_Products.UnitCost, CMRC_Products.Description, CMRC_Categories.CategoryName, CMRC_Products.isActive,CMRC_Products.weightFROM CMRC_Products INNER JOIN CMRC_Categories ON CMRC_Products.CategoryID = CMRC_Categories.CategoryIDWHERE (CMRC_Products.CategoryID = @categoryID) AND (CMRC_Products.isActive = 1)
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I am using a stored procedure to page some objectsThe procedure looks like this:
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IF @rader % @sid_stl != 0 SET @sid_antal = @sid_antal + 1 IF @sid_nr < 1 SET @sid_nr = 1 IF @sid_nr > @sid_antal SET @sid_nr = @sid_antal SET @ubound = @sid_stl * @sid_nr IF(@sid_antal > 0) SET @lbound = @ubound - (@sid_stl - 1) ELSE SET @lbound = 0 SELECT CurrentPage = @sid_nr, TotalPages = @sid_antal, TotalRows = @rader
DECLARE @ename VARCHAR(64), @fname VARCHAR(64), @konid VARCHAR(64) SET ROWCOUNT @lbound SELECT @ename = enamn, @fname = fnamn, @konid = kon_id FROM sw20aut.sw_kontakter WITH (NOLOCK) WHERE kund_id = @kid AND del = '0' ORDER BY enamn, fnamn, kon_id SET ROWCOUNT @sid_stl SELECT kon_id, enamn, fnamn FROM sw20aut.sw_kontakter WITH (NOLOCK) WHERE enamn + fnamn + '~' + CAST(kon_id as VARCHAR(64)) >= @ename + @fname + '~' + @konid AND (kund_id = @kid AND del = '0') ORDER BY enamn, fnamn, kon_id SELECT startid = @konid SET ROWCOUNT 0END
The big problem is that i need to display objet with the same name. In my book the best identifier is the PK and therefor i have sorted as above by ordering after LastName, FirstName, ContactId
After som thinking ive reached the conclusion that this dont work if the idnumbers isnt of the same length. as long as they are(for example two people named John Smith, one with id = '23' and one with id = '87' it works. If there ids would have been '23' and '1203' it will not work correctly) of the same length it works fine.
What im wondering is if anyone have a good solution to this? Only thing i can think of is filling all idnumbers with zeros to equal length. Dont know how and if this will affect performance though. Anyone has a practical solution to this?
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