Cannont Create SSPI Context (SQL Connection Problem After 30 Minutes)
Dec 3, 2005
It makes no difference if I'm working with Enterprise Manager, Query
Analyzer, Access, self written app with OleDb or Visual studio 2003
builtin DB manager.
Everything is fine but aufter some time - about 30 minutes I get
message "cannot create SSPI context"
After rebooting my machine I can work for another few minutes.
Configuration:
NB01 is my notebook with Windows XP Pro
SQL01 is another Windows XP Pro machine with SQL Server 2000 desktop
DC01 is the domain controller
all machins within the same domain DOMAIN01
The user is a domain admin and has every right
I'v seen some postings for this problem but not one useful idea how to
resolve.
As it runs perfectly for some time I don't thint it is a DNS problem or
something like this.
As there is no useful error message it must be some kind of bug.
Has anybody resolved such a problem?
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Nov 11, 2007
hi,
While trying to connect to SQLSever 2000 or SQLSever 2005 from a vb.net application ,
a user is getting the error "Cannot generate SSPI context" while other users
can still connect to the server.
and moreover, this user were able to connect before.
and if he restarts his computer, then try to connect after a lap of time, it will connect.
but if he waits and opens other applications,and then tries to open the application,it will not work.
so how to resolve this problem?
Regards,
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I have 2 servers. On one server i install sql server 2014 and its working fine, i am able to get connected with sql with domain account.
From second machine i want to connect my sql server, for that i create udl file when i give sql server address and click refresh getting following error: Connection failed cannot generate SSPI context
Firewall is off, created fire rule too, i am able to get ping first machine by ip and servername but still getting issue.
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Sep 14, 2007
We are runnig Windows server 2003 R2 and SQL Server 2005 Standard on the same computer.
We have workstations that log into our domain with Windows Authentication. The software loads just fine and then later up pops the error noted above.
Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Paul
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Sep 21, 2004
I was trying out the Building an End-to-End Application (VB.Net) exercises on Web Matrix Guided Tour and encountered the mentioned errors. Please help. Thanks.
The code is as follows :
<%@ Page Language="VB" Debug="true"%>
<%@ import Namespace="System.Data" %>
<%@ import Namespace="System.Data.SqlClient" %>
<script runat="server">
Sub Page_Load(Sender As Object, E As EventArgs)
Welcome.Text = "Hello, " + User.Identity.Name
If Not Page.IsPostBack Then
' Databind the master grid on the first request only
' (viewstate will restore these values on subsequent postbacks).
MasterGrid.SelectedIndex = 0
BindMasterGrid()
BindDetailGrid()
End If
End Sub
Sub MasterGrid_Select(Sender As Object, E As EventArgs)
BindDetailGrid()
End Sub
Sub MasterGrid_Page(Sender As Object, E As DataGridPageChangedEventArgs)
If MasterGrid.SelectedIndex <> -1 Then
' unset the selection, details view
MasterGrid.SelectedIndex = -1
BindDetailGrid()
End If
MasterGrid.CurrentPageIndex = e.NewPageIndex
BindMasterGrid()
End Sub
Sub BindMasterGrid()
' TODO: Update the ConnectionString and CommandText values for your application
Dim ConnectionString As String = "server='WRPBI'; user id='sa'; password='sa';database=MatrixOrders;Integrated Security=SSPI"
Dim CommandText As String = "select OrderID, OrderDate, CustomerName from Orders"
Dim myConnection As New SqlConnection(ConnectionString)
Dim myCommand As New SqlDataAdapter(CommandText, myConnection)
Dim ds As New DataSet()
myCommand.Fill(ds)
MasterGrid.DataSource = ds
MasterGrid.DataBind()
End Sub
Sub BindDetailGrid()
' get the filter value from the master Grid's DataKeys collection
If MasterGrid.SelectedIndex <> -1 Then
' TODO: update the ConnectionString value for your application
Dim ConnectionString As String = "server='WRPBI'; user id='sa'; password='sa';database=MatrixOrders;Integrated Security=SSPI"
' TODO: update the CommandText value for your application
Dim filterValue As String = CStr(MasterGrid.DataKeys(MasterGrid.SelectedIndex)).Replace("'", "''")
Dim CommandText As String = "select OrderDetailID, ProductName, Quantity, UnitPrice from OrderDetails where OrderID = '" & filterValue & "'"
Dim myConnection As New SqlConnection(ConnectionString)
Dim myCommand As New SqlCommand(CommandText, myConnection)
myConnection.Open()
DetailsGrid.DataSource = myCommand.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior.CloseConnection)
End If
DetailsGrid.DataBind()
End Sub
</script>
And this is the compilation error :
Cannot generate SSPI context.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.
Exception Details: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Cannot generate SSPI context.
Source Error:
Line 49:
Line 50: Dim ds As New DataSet()
Line 51: myCommand.Fill(ds)
Line 52:
Line 53: MasterGrid.DataSource = ds
Source File: C:WorksWebWISHDefault.aspx Line: 51
Stack Trace:
[SqlException: Cannot generate SSPI context.]
System.Data.SqlClient.ConnectionPool.GetConnection(Boolean& isInTransaction) +472
System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnectionPoolManager.GetPooledConnection(SqlConnectionString options, Boolean& isInTransaction) +311
System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.Open() +383
System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.QuietOpen(IDbConnection connection, ConnectionState& originalState) +44
System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.FillFromCommand(Object data, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords, String srcTable, IDbCommand command, CommandBehavior behavior) +304
System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.Fill(DataSet dataSet, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords, String srcTable, IDbCommand command, CommandBehavior behavior) +77
System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.Fill(DataSet dataSet) +38
ASP.Default_aspx.BindMasterGrid() in C:WorksWebWISHDefault.aspx:51
ASP.Default_aspx.Page_Load(Object Sender, EventArgs E) in C:WorksWebWISHDefault.aspx:14
System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +55
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +27
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +731
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Win Server 2003
SQL Server 2000 SP4
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The one that cannot access the SQL Server errors: "Cannot Generate SSPI Context". I have verified:
1) date and time
2) occurances of Security.DLL (win/system32; program file/common files/AOL...; Service Pack Files/i386 (x2))
3) Not using cached credentials
we recently moved our network and did not change any settings on any of the computers. I read KB811889; those suggestions did not resolve the issue.
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When accesing SQL from the client with an Office2003 application via ODBC with windows authentication, after several minutes working OK, suddenly it gets this message:
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Cannot generate SSPI context.
In the client I have executed cliconfg.exe and created a piped name protocol, but still it won't work.
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Howdy,
Firstly, I have read through so much information on this, that my eyes are starting to bleed and I am right at the end of my rope with it all..
This issue has only started showing since I re-installed my dev box, so my server has not changed at all..
Server is 2003 with SQL 2005.
Dev box is
Vista (Ultimate)
Visual Studio Pro 2005..
A quick but painful solution is for me to log out of my box and then back in, but this is unworkable at times... about the only difference I can think of this install from the last is that now I have also installed SQLExpress on the dev box. I have gone into services and made sure that the service does not start auto. I have connection to the server and am running as administrator on both until such time as I can sort this out, but the error still occurs.
Authentication for the dbase is both windows and credential.
Can someone please give me a stratight out solution for this.
Cheers
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Hai,
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Our end users is getting below error, when they try to connect to our database:
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Hi,
I have a MSSQL database running in a Microsoft cluster. I was working on troubleshooting for another SAP problem when they suggested I change the setting using hte SQL Server Client Network Utility to 'named pipes' from 'tcp/ip'. Every since, despite changing it back I'm unable to start the database in the cluster.
I'm kind of a newbie at this so I'd really appreciate any help in getting this database up and running.
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Dear Sir,
I tried installing sql server using mixed mode authentication but i am constantly receiving a error as follows and its getting shutting down
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Please give me the resolution as soon as possible.
Regards
Arif
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Hi,
I am working on sql server 2005 .
when I am trying to connect to server:
following error is occuring:
TITLE: Connect to Server
------------------------------
Cannot connect to servername
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Cannot generate SSPI context. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 0)
Could any one help What might be the problem ? for this ?
Thanks,
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Hi,
I have gone through so many kb articles to understanding the problem, but no luck as yet.
Here is the situation:
I have two dev servers : Server A and Server B. Both are set up in an identical fashion. Windows 2003 sp2, Sql Server 2005 sp1 Developer Edition, both are on the same domain, Both have all the three protocols enabled: Shared Memory, Tcpip, and Named Pipes in that order. I can ping both servers, and telnet using the default port. Both have only default instances. Both use the same domain user account for sql service. Both have the error in the log saying that spn could not be registered so authentication may fall back to NTLM.
Here is the issue: When I try to register Server A specifying tcp-ip connection, I am successful and I can see that the authentication is NTLM - is as expected. since the spn registration did not happen and since the sqlservice account is not a domain admin, the authentication used NTLM over tcp-ip. However, I try to register Server B specifying tcpip, I get a cannot generate sspi context error. Why did the authentication not fall back to NTLM as in Server A? From what I read in the KB articles, I asked our network admin to check up the spn, but he assures me that spn were never manually registered.
Can somebody throw more light on this issue?
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Hello together,
since over a week I've been looking to
find out the reason for two error messages I get from our users and
servers, unfortunately without success up to now.
I really hope you can help me.
We are using Win 2k servers with active directory and SQL Server 2000,
clients are all Win XP with SP2. Versions of access are 2002 &
2003. The errors are userspecific and occur in both versions. The
SQL-Servers are accessed with an adp-file in 2002-format.
We have one usergroup which is member of specially many groups. This
affects the size of their windows access token which becomes constantly
larger. In order to enable those users to still access their mailboxes
on our Exchange servers, the DWORD entry "MaxTokenSize" with the
decimal value "65535" was made to the newly created key "Parameters" of
their registry branch
"HKLMSYSTEMCurrentControlSetControlLsaKerberos ".
Since then those users can not access any of our SQL Servers using the
windows authentification. One of them gets the error
"[DBNETLIB][ConnectionRead(recv().] General network error. Check your
network documentation.", the others the error "Check connection:
Failed: Cannot generate SSPI context".
In case of resetting the registry entries (by deleting them), the one
user receives the same error message as the rest while it doesn't make
any difference to those (but at least they can't connect to their
mailboxes).
After having researched the web, I realised in one of the SQL-Servers
logfiles the entry "Invalid buffer received from client.." which lead
me to start to believe it could have to do something with the kerberos
encryption in the first place. Therefore I asked if changes to the
tokensize had been made. I applied the change with "EXEC sp_configure
'network packet size', 65535 RECONFIGURE" on our testsystem and "EXEC
sp_configure" confirms that the value is run.
Consequence: The entry in the SQL Server log doesn't appear any longer, but the users still receive their error messages.
Do you have any hints?
Your comments will be highly appreciated!
Regards,
caracol
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We are looking at developing an SQL Server 2005 Database and I would like to use Windows Authentication rather than SQL Server Authentication to connect our client app.
In our development environment, we have two Servers, one being used as a file server and the other as an SQL Server. We have now set up a domain using the file server as the domain controller. (We had previously been set up to use a workgroup).
I have set up an active directory group called SqlDevelopers and added an active directory user called Jonathan to it.
On the SQL Sever, in management studio, I have set up a new server login which uses windows authentication called DomainSqlDevelopers. I used the GUI to verify I could see the domain and the group.
The default database is set to a test database on the server. A user in the test database is mapped to the DomainSqlDevelopers and given the Roles dbo, db_datareader, db_datawriter.
To test the log in, on the server, I logged out as administrator and in as Jonathan. I could successfully access the server through management studio using windows authentication.
However, if I log in as Jonathan on my client PC and try to access the SQL Server using management studio and windows authentication, I have problems.
The first time I try I will get a timeout error. If I try again will get either:
Login failed for user ''. The user is not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection
Or
Cannot generate SSPI context
I can€™t determine any pattern to which of the above errors I get.
However, if I log in as administrator on my client PC, I can connect to the server using management studio and windows authentication.
Sounds like Active Directory/Domain or other Network issue (Not really my area). I would be grateful for any help.
Thanks,
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Hello, I have a sql 2005 server, and I am a developer, with the database on my own machine. It alwayws works for me but after some minutes the other developer cant work in the application
He got this error
Login failed for user ''. The user is not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection. [CLIENT: 192.168.1.140]
and When I see the log event after that error, it comes with another error.
SSPI handshake failed with error code 0x8009030c while establishing a connection with integrated security; the connection has been closed. [CLIENT: 192.168.1.140]
He has IIS5 and me too.
I created a user on the domain called ASPSYS with password, then in the IIS on anonymous authentication I put that user with that password, and it works, on both machines.
and in the connection string I have.
<add key="sqlconn" value="Data Source=ESTACION15;Initial Catalog=GescomDefinitiva;Integrated Security=SSPI; Trusted_Connection=true"/>
I go to the profiler, and I see that when he browses a page, the database is accesed with user ASPSYS, but when I browse a page, the database is accesed with user SElevalencia.
Thats strange.
The only way that the other developer can work again on the project is to restart the whole machine. He has windows xp profession, I have windows 2000.
If you want me to send logs please tellme
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The SQL Server and IIS are located in different un-trusted domain. I am however able to connect to the SQL Server using user id and password. In my web.config file:
<add name="ConnectionName1" connectionString="Data Source=IpAddress,Port#;Initial Catalog=DatabaseName;Integrated Security=true;persist security info=False; Trusted_Connection=Yes;" providerName="System.Data.SqlClient"/> à Doesn’t work
<add name="ConnectionName2" connectionString="Data Source=IpAddress,Port#;Initial Catalog=DatabaseName;uid=user;pwd=password;" providerName="System.Data.SqlClient"/> Ă WorksBased on the error message it looks like there is no user passed to the SQL server.
What am I missing? At this point I am thankful for any input…
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Hello Guys,
I need some some clarifications on how Context connections and transactions inter operate in CLR.
The context connection allows for ADO objects to be " running in the same transaction space". So the association to the current transaction is implied. So as long as I set for example my SqlCommand to use the context connection I am going to be running under the same transaction.
SqlConnection sqlConn = new SqlConnection("context connection=true");
SqlCommand sqlComm = new SqlCommand("EXEC myCommand", sqlConn);
I guess my ambiguity comes from the fact that the Transaction is not specifically specified.
In addition what happens upon a trigger that for example watches and insert on a table? If the insert occurs under a transaction, I would assume that I will be also picking up that transaction in the CRL Trigger, thus the whole operation would seem atomic.
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Dim dCol As DataColumn = Nothing
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'remove the last comma & form the final string
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For Each drow In _dt.Rows
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conn.Dispose()
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success = False
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Onwards, I insert a new row to a table with an int(4) identity column, but the following returns zero (0):
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However, the following code returns the actual identity value:
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Try
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Hi,
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Can we have MARS in the "context connection"?
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