Data Missing In The Full Backup
Nov 18, 2006
i have a 2005 db with full recovery mode. daily full backups, diff backups and log backups are done through sqlagent. i wanted to make a copy of it on another instance using the restore method with the latest full backup. after i created the new db, i noticed that a few tables were missing and columns were missing from existing tables also. futhermore, the recrods in these tables were not up-to-date either. i did fresh a full backup and tried again and the problem persisted. i aslo tried to restore on the same sql server instance under a different db name and that reproduced the problem.
the database schema was changed a few weeks ago and it seems that i am only seeing a snapshot of the database before the schema change. dbcc checkdb returns no error. the size of the backup file looks reasonable and i seen an increase in size since the schema change which is expected. there is no active transactions in the db and if i generate a create script, it contains proper t-sql that matches the current schema.
what am i missing there? what could i be doing wrong? i am lost here and any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!
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Nov 29, 2007
If my backup starts at 8PM and take 1 hour to complete, will the changes made to the database during that hour be captured in the full backup?
Stated another way, will my backup be a snapshot of:
a) 8PM when the backup started
b) 8PM with some of the changes made between the hour
c) 9PM when the backup finished?
Anybody know the exact way SQL Server handles that logic?
Thanks,
Marc
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Nov 13, 2014
If data is modified (by an insert, update, or delete) while the backup is running, will the backup contain those changes or will it be added to the database afterwards?
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Feb 14, 2008
question 1:
i found that database log file can contain more records after performing backup database statement.
for example:
i create a database and limit the log file to 2mb. then i create a table and insert data.
If i backup the database before i insert data , the database file can contain 192 records unitl the log file is full.
If i don't perform the 'backup database' statement.
The 'dbcc sqlperf(logspace)' indicate the utilization ratio is less than 40% after inserting 192 records
why?
I list my code:
Code Snippet
create database db_test
on primary
(
name=db_test,
filename='C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDatadb_test.mdf'
)
log on
(
name=db_test_log,
filename='C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDatadb_test_log.ldf',
maxsize=2mb
)
go
backup database db_test to disk='db_test.bak' --- if i don't execute this line, log file can contain a lot of record
go
create table db_test..table1(col char(8000))
--insert data to fill up the database log
declare @n int
set @n=0
while @n<192
begin
insert into db_test..table1 values(replicate('a',8000))
set @n=@n+1
end
question 2:
i create a database and limit the log file to 2mb. Then i create a table and insert data in an endless loop.
After the inserting operation executing for a while, the 9002 error occurs, indicate the log file for the database is full.
But the 'dbcc sqlperf(logspace)' command indicate the unilization ratio is low, and log_reuse_wait_desc in sys.database is 'CHECKPOINT'
And I can insert data , and i'm sure the state of log_use_wait_desc is 'CHECKPOINT'.
As i known, the checkpoint can't truncate log under full recovery model. Only the back log operation can truncate the transaction log.
So log is not full, why 9002 error is encounterd. and why the log_reuse_wait_desc return 'CHECKPOINT'?
I list my code:
Code Snippet
create database db_test
on primary
(
name=db_test,
filename='C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDatadb_test.mdf'
)
log on
(
name=db_test_log,
filename='C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDatadb_test_log.ldf',
maxsize=2mb
)
go
create table db_test..table1(col char(8000))
--insert data to fill up the database log
declare @n int
set @n=0
while @n<>-1
begin
insert into db_test..table1 values(replicate('a',8000))
end
any suggestions?
thanks in advance.
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Hi
I am using the Simple recovery model and I'm taking a weekly full backup each Monday morning with differentials taken every 4 hours during the day.
On Wednesday afternoon, a programmer ran a process that corrupted the db and I had to restore to the most recent differential. It was 5pm in the afternoon and a differential backup had just occured at 4pm. No problem, I figured.
I restored the full backup from Monday morning and tried to restore the most recent differential backup. The differential restore failed. Since I had used T-SQL for the initial attempt, I tried using Enterprise Manager to try again.
When viewing the backup history, I see my initial full backup taken on Monday plus all the differentials. BUT, on closer inspection, I noticed another full backup in the backup history that was taken early Tuesday morning. I can't figure out where this Tuesday morning full backup came from. It wasn't taken by me (or scheduled by me) and I'm the only one with access to the server. My full backups are usually named something like HCMPRP_20070718_FULL.bak. This erroneous full backup was named something like HCMPRP_03a_361adk2k_dd53.bak. It seemed like it was a system generated name. Not something I would choose. To top it off, I could not find this backup file anywhere on the server and when I tried to restore using this full backup, it failed.
Does anyone have any clues as to where this full backup might come from? Does SQL Server trigger a full backup on its own if some threshold is reached?
I ended up having to restore using the differential taken just before this erroneous full backup and lost a day of transactions.
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Hello,
I have MS SQL 2005 server with 300+ databases on it. The application is set up that way that it creates a new database as needed (dynamically). Do not ask me why - I hate this design... So, it can create 3-4 databases a day (random time).
I've scheduled full backup of all databases to run once at night, and it runs just fine. Besides that, I have scheduled tran logs backup of all databases to run every hour. This backup fails from time to time with the following error:
Executing the query "BACKUP LOG [survey_p0886464_test] TO DISK = N'D:\backups\log backups\survey_p0886464_test_backup_200708072300.trn' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'survey_p0886464_test_backup_20070807230002', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error: "BACKUP LOG cannot be performed because there is no current database backup.
BACKUP LOG is terminating abnormally.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
So, I think what happens is since my full backup of all databases are scheduled to run only once at night, and tran logs every hour, when new database is created during the day, there is no full backup for it, that is why tran logs backup fails. Becuase after the failure, if I run full backup again, then tran log runs just fine afterwards.
I am new to MS SQL Server, I am mostly working with Sybase IQ. Do you know if I can "trigger" full backup every time when new database created to avoid tran lof failure?
Or is it possible to schedule full backup to run if tran log backup fails?
Any advice will be much appreciated.
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firstly,I restore full backup
RESTORE DATABASE ***
FROM DISK = 'D:databackup200610140000.bak'
WITH NORECOVERY
GO
it's working,then i don;'t know how to continue
Thanks in advance
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I just heard that for restore purpose, ths full backup and transaction log backup should be from one maintenance plan. Otherwise transaction log backup files cannot be restored after restoring full backup files.
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In my system, full and transaction backups are from one maintenance plan. Restores are doing fine. I am not sure that ideal is true or not.
Thanks
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Thanks
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I run full daily backup -Monday to Saturday
DB1_Mon.bak
DB1_Tue.bak
DB1_Wed.bak
DB1_Thur.bak
DB1_Fri.bak
DB1_Sat.bak
Come Sunday - for the first time I have run transaction log backup.
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