Database In Simple Mode Yet Txn Log File Can Be Out Of Diskspace ?
Oct 10, 2005
Hi ,
I have set up my database to be using "Simple" mode. This will not log any
txns ?
I have got the err message saying the log file is full and i need to do a
txn log backup
i do not understand why , could anyone kindly advise ?
tks & rdgs
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Jul 30, 2015
My understanding is that the log file is not supposed to grow if the database is under simple recovery mode.I am in a situation where the log grows if do any inserts that involve millions of rows.How do i make sure that it does not grow?
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I have a database that I am trying to recover space from, it consists mostly of unallocated space, but I can’t seem to get that unused space released.
Database size: 40,245.13 MB
DatafileMB: 38,063.63, DataAvailableMB: 37,085.15
LogfileMB: 2181.51
Sysfiles shows:
fileidgroupidsizemaxsizegrowthstatusperfname
114872144-112820SomeDB
202792332684354561010486420SomeDB_log
The DB is in simple recovery mode. There are no open transactions (used dbcc opentran).
The server is running SQL Server 2014 and the DB is in compatibility mode SQL Server 2008 (100). It was upgraded to 2014 a month or two ago.
I have tried to re-size the log to 100mb, but any way I have tried (none gave errors), the log file remains the same size. I have tied to shrink the log file (through the UI and via DBCC commands) without success; no errors, but also no change in file size.
I have checked Log Reuse Waits, just in case, and as expected it showed “NOTHING” (select log_reuse_wait_desc, name from sys.databases)
I tried running a checkpoint, but that did not allow any resize or shrink to work.
I have tied creating large transactions to move the used point in the log file, in case this was the issue. I did this by creating tables that I drop after large inserts. While it shows me that the log space % used increased, the log file still does not allow the space to be reduced.
The following is what I was using for the transactions to get the log used.
BEGIN TRAN
select a.* into testtable from sysobjects a, sysobjects b, sysobjects c
ROLLBACK TRAN
Each insert creates 93,576,664 rows.
Running dbcc SQLPerf(logspace) :
DBLogSize(MB)LogSpaceUsed(%)Status
SomeDB2181.534.204890
Running dbcc loginfo:
RecoveryUnitIdFileIdFileSizeStartOffsetFSeqNoStatusParityCreateLSN
0211437342728192602640
02114373427211437424645701280
Do I just need to continue running large transactions until the log space used gets high enough to get the “end point” in the log to really move? Is there an easier way to accomplish this (I have several DBs that have the almost identical problem), what I am using moves the Log Space Percent Used about a percent on each execution.
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Which system table is this information held in, i restored over 100 databases and want all of them to be simple mode.
I manually set it each time after each restore, but i want to confirm but i cannot find the sys table to do a select on.
I looked at sys.sysdatabases
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I have several databases that perform daily backups. Ever since I installed SP2, the backup jobs are failing. The logs state that it's because the database recovery mode cannot be SIMPLE, but need to be either FULL or Bulk-Logged.
Can anyone tell me if this is true, and that I do have to change my recovery mode?
Here's the error:
NEW COMPONENT OUTPUT
Microsoft(R) Server Maintenance Utility (Unicode) Version 9.0.3042
Report was generated on "ICIS-SQL-SERVER".
Maintenance Plan: DB Backup
Duration: 00:08:05
Status: Warning: One or more tasks failed..
Details:
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(-1073548784) Executing the query "BACKUP LOG [hl7 db_SamirTesting] TO DISK = N'D:\mssql\backup\hl7 db_SamirTesting\hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_200703100508.trn' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_20070310050809', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error: "The statement BACKUP LOG is not allowed while the recovery model is SIMPLE. Use BACKUP DATABASE or change the recovery model using ALTER DATABASE.
BACKUP LOG is terminating abnormally.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
Command:BACKUP LOG [hl7 db_SamirTesting] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db_SamirTestinghl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [dg_efilm_153] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupdg_efilm_153dg_efilm_153_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''dg_efilm_153_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [hl7 db] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 dbhl7 db_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(-1073548784) Executing the query "BACKUP LOG [dg_efilm_153] TO DISK = N'D:\mssql\backup\dg_efilm_153\dg_efilm_153_backup_200703100508.trn' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'dg_efilm_153_backup_20070310050809', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error: "The statement BACKUP LOG is not allowed while the recovery model is SIMPLE. Use BACKUP DATABASE or change the recovery model using ALTER DATABASE.
BACKUP LOG is terminating abnormally.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
Command:BACKUP LOG [hl7 db_SamirTesting] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db_SamirTestinghl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [dg_efilm_153] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupdg_efilm_153dg_efilm_153_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''dg_efilm_153_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [hl7 db] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 dbhl7 db_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(-1073548784) Executing the query "BACKUP LOG [hl7 db] TO DISK = N'D:\mssql\backup\hl7 db\hl7 db_backup_200703100508.trn' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'hl7 db_backup_20070310050809', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error: "The statement BACKUP LOG is not allowed while the recovery model is SIMPLE. Use BACKUP DATABASE or change the recovery model using ALTER DATABASE.
BACKUP LOG is terminating abnormally.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
Command:BACKUP LOG [hl7 db_SamirTesting] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db_SamirTestinghl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [dg_efilm_153] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupdg_efilm_153dg_efilm_153_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''dg_efilm_153_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP LOG [hl7 db] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 dbhl7 db_backup_200703100508.trn'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_backup_20070310050809'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:08.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(0) Database 'hl7 db_SamirTesting' will not be backed up because it does not have its recovery model set to Full or BulkLogged.
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:08.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(0) Database 'dg_efilm_153' will not be backed up because it does not have its recovery model set to Full or BulkLogged.
Back Up Database (Transaction Log) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All user databases
Type: Transaction Log
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:08:08.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:09.
Failed:(0) Database 'hl7 db' will not be backed up because it does not have its recovery model set to Full or BulkLogged.
Back Up Database (Full) (ICIS-SQL-SERVER)
Backup Database on Target server connection
Databases that have a compatibility level of 70 (SQL Server version 7.0) will be skipped.
Databases: All databases
Type: Full
Append existing
Task start: 2007-03-10T05:00:06.
Task end: 2007-03-10T05:08:08.
Success
Command:EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackupmaster''
GO
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackupmodel''
GO
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackupmsdb''
GO
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db_SamirTesting''
GO
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackupdg_efilm_153''
GO
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db''
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [master] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupmastermaster_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''master_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [model] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupmodelmodel_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''model_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [msdb] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupmsdbmsdb_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''msdb_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [hl7 db_SamirTesting] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 db_SamirTestinghl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_SamirTesting_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [dg_efilm_153] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackupdg_efilm_153dg_efilm_153_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''dg_efilm_153_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
GO
BACKUP DATABASE [hl7 db] TO DISK = N''D:mssqlackuphl7 dbhl7 db_backup_200703100500.bak'' WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N''hl7 db_backup_20070310050006'', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
Please help,
-tim
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0
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