Difference Between SQL Mobile 2005 And SQL Compact 2005

May 24, 2007

Hello,

Could someone give me the difference between "Sql Mobile 2005" and "Sql Compact 2005".
At first I thought they were the same, that this was just something of the change in naming the server has had the last months.
My first guess was that Mobile would be the new one, but I have 'accidently' downloaded the Compact and what seems the System.data.SqlServerCE.dll is newer.

So is there a difference?
If yes, what are they.
If not, is the "compact" then the latest version and the name to be used (since on the site only "mobile" is mentioned).

Best regards,
Ike Casteleyn

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using System.Collections.Generic;
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using System.Text;
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I did a bit of testing and found out if I remove all the cabs from my ceappmgr INI file EXCEPT for the one that is appropriate for my smartphone, then it works fine! But as soon as I include a cab file that is not appropriate for my device (eg a different cpu architecture, or the ARM PPC cab file), it stops working and I get that "not intended for this device" message.

My INI file looks like this:


[CEAppManager]
Version = 1.0
Component = SQL Server Compact 3.5

[SQL Server Compact 3.5]
Description = Microsoft SQL Server Compact 3.5
CabFiles = sqlce.phone.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.ppc.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsii.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsii_fp.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsiv.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsiv_fp.CAB,sqlce.wce5.sh4.CAB,sqlce.wce5.x86.CAB


Any idea why ceappmgr would be (seemingly) picking the wrong cab file and trying to make my device install it?
Btw, my smartphone uses the "sqlce.phone.wce5.armv4i.CAB" cab file.

Cheers in advance.

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