Difference Between SQL Mobile 2005 And SQL Compact 2005
May 24, 2007
Hello,
Could someone give me the difference between "Sql Mobile 2005" and "Sql Compact 2005".
At first I thought they were the same, that this was just something of the change in naming the server has had the last months.
My first guess was that Mobile would be the new one, but I have 'accidently' downloaded the Compact and what seems the System.data.SqlServerCE.dll is newer.
So is there a difference?
If yes, what are they.
If not, is the "compact" then the latest version and the name to be used (since on the site only "mobile" is mentioned).
I have a windows forms application that runs on my PC that populates a SQL Server Compact 2005 database and then transfers that .sdf file to my mobile device. The communication between the mobile device and PC is done using the Desktop RAPI class from OpenNetCF (http://www.opennetcf.com/FreeSoftware/DesktopCommunication/tabid/90/Default.aspx)
Anyway, I was previously using SQL Server Mobile 2005 and my populated .sdf was around 1.7 MB and I could transfer it to my mobile device in a minute. Once I switched to SQL Server Compact 2005, the transfer process began taking 3 minutes with a 1.5 MB .sdf file. The SSCE also got bloated more easily so I added in the Compact operation each time after I fully populate the SDF to keep the file size at 1.5 MB, but even then it still takes 3 minutes.
I've done a few tests where I simply switch between the two database versions and that simple switch of the version changes the transfer time. I am dumbfounded trying to figure out what the cause might be. Since it is just a file transfer, why would the version even matter unless somehow SSCE is really not compacting and lying about its actual size.
Has anyone run into anything similar to this or may have any ideas what might be going on?
Hello, How are you? I have a problem when I try to create a new connection with Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition from Visual Studio 2005 IDE. When I€™m going to choose the data source, the SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition provider doesn€™t appear in the list. I installed the SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition from this page http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=%2085E0C3CE-3FA1-453A-8CE9-AF6CA20946C3&displaylang=en. In the additional information says by installing SQLServerCE31-EN.msi installs the provider (System.Data.SqlServerCe.dll) in the GAC (global assembly cache) and registers the OLEDB provider (sqlceoledb30.dll). So, I don€™t understand why couldn€™t I create a new connection with Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition from Visual Studio 2005 IDE?
I don't understand why I am having this error. It does create the database on AddSubscription() method but it is failing opening the database on Synchronise(). I have also tried uninstalling and then reinstalling all the SQL Mobile components in the following order.
suggested that this problem could be circumvented by getting the replication object early and then continuously using the same object for subsequent replications.
I did this and it works a lot better now but ever so often I get another error which is
Native Error 28559 SQL Mobile encountered problems when opening the database
My only option at this point is to stop and start the application which cures the problem.
I am developping a non-managed C++ application for PocketPC using a SQL Server mobile database.
The application is compiled for PocketPC 2003 and uses SQL Server Mobile v2. I use Visual Studio 2005. But I need to compile the application for Windows Mobile 5.0 devices. So I installed the WM5 SDK and had the WM5 into my project configuration.
The "ssceoledb.h" which I include incluses the "transact.h" file. But my problem is that this file is only provided with the PocketPC 2003 SDK and not in the WM5 SDK. So I cannot use the WM5 configuration project with SQL Server. I also tried with the last SQL Server Mobile 2005 (ie v3.0) and the "ssceoledb30.h" also includes "transact.h".
Did I miss something to install ? Do you know how I can resolve the problem ?
Is there any way to measure bandwith usage during merge replication between sql server 2005 and sql server mobile 2005 running on a cradled wm5 mobile device.
Attaching the windows performance monitor to the network connection established over usb would work although I was wondering if there was something specific for this case integrated into Sql server 2005 / sql server mobile 2005 / Sql server management studio / third party tools that i could use ?
I have a central database server that is runnning on SQL 2005 standard edition and Windows server 2003 standard as OS.
I realise that I can use SQL statements to encrypt and decrypt the data inside the standard SQL.
However, how do I read and write the data via an web application coded in C#.net and is also running on the same machine?
Another issue is, I need to replicate some of the data in this SQL standard over to a SQL mobile running on a mobile device running on Windows CE 5.0.
The mobile device also needs to read and write data to the encrypted data via a C#.net application.
Question is, with all these requirements to be met, can I use AES? I know that AES is not available on Windows XP and Windows Server 2000 and I cant find AES in the .net compact framework.
how do i go about ensuring security? how do I ensure that the symmetric key is the same both on the SQL standard and SQL mobile?
I have some SQL CE database .sdf file on my handheld, and I was trying to connect to that file via SQL Server 2005 Management Studio, and it does not work. I am wondering if there is any good tool that I can use on desktop to connect to sqlce .sdf database file on my handheld?
I just want to display all the data of a Single table into a Data Grid, I know that we can drag and drop the table on to a form and datagrid is generated, but here I want to retrive those values through my code, how should i do that
I am getting following errors while running the program Error 1) Error No. 28037, MS SQL Server 2005 Evrywhere Edition Error: A request to send data to the computer running IIS has failed. For more information see HRESULT Error 2) Error No. 0, SQL Server 2005 Evrywhere Edition ADO.Net Data Provider Error: The specified table does not exist [ JobLists ].
Can anybody please tell me, where I went wrong ??? In this code anywhere else????
Note: While adding a Data Source of SQL Server 2005 Mobile Edition, I have added that .sdf file into my project, thats why I have written the Data Source as : .DbFile.sdf
@"Data Source = .DbDotNetCF.sdf";
The code is as follows:
using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.ComponentModel; using System.Data; using System.Drawing; using System.Text; using System.Windows.Forms; using System.Data.SqlServerCe;
namespace DeviceApplication1 { public partial class Form1 : Form { string filename = @".DbDotNetCF.sdf";
private DataSet dsJobLists;
public Form1() { InitializeComponent(); }
private void DeleteDB() { if (System.IO.File.Exists(filename)) { System.IO.File.Delete(filename); } }
private void Sync() { SqlCeReplication repl = new SqlCeReplication();
if (DbDotNetCFDataSetUtil.DesignerUtil.IsRunTime()) { // TODO: Delete this line of code to remove the default AutoFill for 'dbDotNetCFDataSet.JobLists'. this.jobListsTableAdapter.Fill(this.dbDotNetCFDataSet.JobLists); } } } }
I have created a merge replication correctlly( I suppose, there were no errros) Please help
I'm trying to connect to Desktop SQL Server 2000 from Windows mobile PC Emulator (VS 2005). I need a direct connection using connection string to SQL Server 2000 through local wireless network without IIS.
Bellow is the code that I use. After executing this code I get an error on line Conn.Open(). Error says SQL Server does not exist or access denied. SQL is un and running, and I can log in using SA username from the desktop. Even if I chance IP for another SQL server in my connection string I still get the same error. There is no firewall of any kind running.
Dim connectionSTR As String = "Persist Security Info=False;Integrated Security=False;Server=192.168.0.202,1433;initial catalog=MyDB;user id=sa;password=;"
Dim Conn As SqlConnection
Conn = New SqlConnection(connectionSTR)
Conn.Open()
If Conn.State = ConnectionState.Open Then MessageBox.Show("Open") End If
About my environment: SQL Server 2000 is running on Desktop PC with Windows XP SP2. Application which I need to connect to SQL Server is in Visual Studio 2005. I execute the application in Windows Mobile PC Emulator and try to connect to SQL Server from emulator.
I'm attempting to use RDA to synchronize a pocket pc emulator with SQL Server 2005 database by following tutorial http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa454892.aspx, which uses AdvWorksMobile database that comes with SQL Server 2005.
When get to testing of "To test application features " ( step 4 of the merge replication setup lab ), I am receiving SQLCe Exception errors.
ORIGINALLY, I was able to deploy an application and view the local database on the emulator, but once I clicked "InitSinc" button, I received an error.
"Failure to connect to SQL Server with provided connection information. SQL Server does not" exist, access is denied because the SQL user is not a valid user on the SQL Server, or the password is incorrect. Found this error listed in Server Agent Errors log http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms172357.aspx, but it wasn't very helpful since it doesn't provide any suggestions on fixing the problems.
I am brand new to SQL CE Server , mobile programming and .NET framework in general so please bare with me
All the connections / security settings, etc that were set up were taken from a tutorial so I am not sure what SQLCeServer is complaining about. Reading up on the error on the web didn't help, it all pointed to making sure that the snapshot folder had correct permissions set up. I verified that MACHINENAMEUISR_MACHINENAME guest user had Read rights to the database so I don't think that piece is the problem. Otherwise ,Merge publication has been setup in Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio by following the tutorial.
I am trying to run this sync on my home pc so there should be no issues with any user permissions
I have IIS installed
I did NOT have SQL Server Agent running in management studio at this time
I am trying to run this tutorial on an XP machine, which is my regular home PC so I dont think there are any special networking settings to consider
I am able to hit http://localhost/AdvWorksMobile/sqlcesa30.dll from my pc OK, but when I try to hit it from a cradled emulator ( after replacing "localhost" with "MACHINE_NAME" ), Internet Explorer on the emulator gives me a "Cannot Connect With Current Settings" error message. This part wasn't part of tutorial but decided so not sure if I am supposed to be able to hit it from my emulator..so I am not sure if the fact that I can't hit it is related to the problem. AFTER STARTING SQL SERVER AGENTin Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio, I killed the application, and after relaunching it, it hits "The Specified table does not exist [Vendor]" error. This time it doesn't even launch first - that is I dont even get to pressing "InitSinc" button. Debugger is showing that this error is hit on the following line in AdvWorksMobile.AddWorksDataSetTableAdapters
int returnValue = this.Adapter.Fill(dataTable);
I am not sure why the errors changed on me after starting SQL Server Agent. What can I do to fix this connection problem?
I am having trouble with getting Merge Replication up with a new SQL 2005 x64 Server. I already have it running smoothly with SQL 2005 Mobile and SQL 2000, but I want to migrate the backend to SQL 2005.
There is a front end server running IIS 6.0 on Windows 2003 x86 Standard (Server A) with SSL required and Basic Authentication set as the only authentication method (default Domain and Realm are also set). The backend server is running SQL 2005 x64 Standard on Windows 2003 x64 Standard (Server B). The mobile devices are running Windows Mobile 5.0 with SQL 2005 Mobile (Client).
From both a standard Windows XP workstation (IE) and the Client (PIE) I can browse to the HTTPS site on port 444 for the sqlcesa30.dll on Server A and get a response in normal and ?diag modes. The ?diag gives success in all but the 8.0 Database Reconciler (I didn't install the SQL 2000 replication components on Server A, my understanding is they should not be needed). Sql Server Module Versions are as follows: sqloledb.dll - 2000.86.1830.0, 9.0 replrec.dll - 2005.90.1399.0, 9.0 replprov.dll - 2005.90.1399.0, 9.0 msgprox.dll - 2005.90.1399.0.
The publication on Server B is enabled for Web Synchronization and the Snapshop Agent has run. There are no reported errors on that side.
Since I ran into issues getting synchronization to run I have opened up permissions fairly wide in this test environment. The PAL and the Database both have the user I am attempting to sync with listed (I am using the Administrator account in the test domain). I have opened full rights on the Snapshot share on Server B to Everyone (both NTFS ACL on the directory and the Share permissions). The virtual directory on Server A containing the sqlcesa30.dll has also been opened very wide, and the Application Pool does have access to it.
The Client is running a custom C#.NET 2005 application. With the exception of changes to set the application to sync with the Server A/B duo instead of the production servers, this application is identical to the code currently being used in production with SQL 2000 Standard.
The persistent error that I am getting from the Client being thrown by SQL 2005 Mobile when I attempt to sync is "An instance of the SQL Server Reconciler error object cannot be created. Try reinstalling the replication components."
SQL 2005 Mobile components on Server A are set to Logging Level 3 but not returning any errors that I can see to troubleshoot with. All replication components appear to be installed and operational, although I have re-installed them.
Besides the obvious question of how to solve the error listed above, is there an issue with am x85 front end IIS 6.0 server talking to an x64 back end SQL 2005 server for merge replication over HTTPS with Windows Mobile 5.0 clients running SQL 2005 Mobile?
Based on everything I have read off the MSDN Forums, MSDN articles, BOL, log files, and web searches it seems like I should have an operational synching topology, however clearly I have missed something because I have yet to get a successful subscription through to the publication.
Any insight/enlightenment would be greatly appreciated, this seems to be a very narrow and specific area of replication and mobility and information is relatively sparse from my experience so far.
We have been using Sql Server 2005 Compact Edition 3.1 RDA synchronization method successfully on Sql Server 2000 database. Recently we moved the database to Sql Server 2005, sync doesn't work anymore, it just hangs on one table. On further investigation, we found out that it's the index on that table that causes this. We removed the index, it works fine. We are wondering the root cause, removing the index is not a solution for us. Any thoughts?. Thanks.
I have a database created on SQL Server 2005 and now I would like to migrate the table structure to a SQL Server 2005 Mobile database. Generating the scripts and running them against the mobile database generates a lot of error that I suppose are caused by not supported features or keywords on the mobile engine.
I would like to know what are the best procedure for doing such migration. Note that this has nothing to do with replicating, since the SQL Server 2005 database will be "discontinued" after the migration.
What really changed from SQL Mobile to SQL Compact besides allowing the database to run on any desktop? Is there a document somewhere explaining the differences, I did not see anything?
I just changed my development machine over to SP1 and wondered what code I should be changing.
I am filling the database from my C++ Desktop app using ADO using the OLEDB provider Microsoft.SQLSERVER.MOBILE.OLEDB.3.0 and using System.Data.SqlServerCe in my C# mobile app. Is that OLE provider valid with the new version or should it be *.COMPACT.3.1?
I thought there was now suppose to be some sort of automatic compaction, but I did not notice any new properties.
We currently use SQL Mobile and SQL Server 2005. We depend heavily on merge replication for data to the field handheld devices.
We are going to be starting some new projects and I was wondering about moving to SQL Compact Edition as the first step to migrating all of our applications.
I am concerned, however, about the server side and replication. If we simply deploy SQL Compact Edition will there need to be any changes to the server for replication?
I have not seen much info on this so I thought I would ask the forum. I have VS2005, no SP1 and SQL Mobile installed on my computer. I started developing an app for Windows Mobile 5 using RDA and it appears to work fine. Now I want to know what happens to SQL Mobile if I install SQL CE. Is it going to affect my app? Do I have to install the SQL CE merge replications tools for IIS again? I already have them for SQL Mobile? Will this affect the operation of my app? It looks like the installation procedures call for installing SQL CE tools to VS2005 before installing VS2005 SP1 then install VS2005 SP1 and finally install SQL CE tools for VS2005 SP1. Any help, thoughts or experiences involving this would be appreciated.
I'm porting my C++ (EVC3) application from Sql CE 2.0 to Sql Mobile 3.0 (with OLE DB). To compact a 2.0 database, i used ISSCECompact interface. But it doesn't exists with the new version. I've only found C# and VB.Net samples in MSDN ...
Just released small piece of software with SQL Compact Edition, version 3, dll files distributed with the application.
Now feedback from 2 people suffering an error message as follows: SQL Mobile usage is restricted on this platform. To use SQL Mobile, you must install SQL Server 2005, Visual Studio 2005, or the Tablet PC SKU.
Both using XP under Admin accounts.
My own testing did throw up this error prior to release, but only when I tried to run the program as a Limited User. I was unable to find out why. Running the program under an Administrator account never produced this error message.
The test-bed was a fresh install of XP, SP 2, running within VMware. An Administrator account was set up. No development software was installed, nor anything to do with SQL. I tried to make it a clean environment to be used by a non-technical user.
When I try and connecto to SQL CE I always get an invalid operation exception. I"m afraid that I did not follow the proper install for Orcas Beta 2. I can't remember if I was supposed to uninstall SQL Mobile 2005 first or not.
All I know is when I try and use my SQL CE I can't connecto to a DB / sdf file ?
Any help would be appreciated I"m just starting to use SQL CE.
Been following a video from Jim Wilson on merge replication between sql server 2005 and compact 3.5. The problem I have is that in the video, the subscriber types say SQL Server Compact, but on my 2005 server it says SQL Server Mobile. I have installed all the parts of Compact 3.5, so how do I get 2005 to use Compact and not Mobile?
So I started an SQL CE database for use inside a mobile application. I used SSMS to create a .sdf file (because if I let Visual Studio do it, SSMS can't open it because it will be version 3.5).
The reason I wanted to use SSMS is because I wanted to be able to design the database in design view, and populate it with initial information for the application to use. That means adding tables and rows.
The problem is, SSMS doesn't seem to have a design view available when working with CE databases. It also doesn't seem to have a feature for adding rows into tables. It's essentially as useless as VS2008 for designing my mobile database. It only lets me add tables, and I can't even do that visually in design view. I have to use those cumbersome forms.
Is there any way to design a CE database in design view? And add rows of data into tables? It feels like I'm overlooking something.
Note: I dont need to subscribe or publish the database. The mobile application just needs to use the database as a repository.
I am confused about the version numbers for SQL Server Compact/Mobile. It _looks_ like the versions went from CE 2.0 to Mobile 2005 to CE 3.0 (or 3.1). Is this correct? In fact, I found one location the specifically said Compact Edition is the next version of Mobile. In another location I saw Compact Edition referred to as 2005 CE.
This has got me going because I am creating a Mobile/CE app and I keep getting a "Initialize SQL Server Reconciler" and the best information I can find indicates a mismatch between the server component and the client component.
So, what are the current versions of Mobile/CE? Is there a location that lists all of the components and what version they should be?
I have been following the MS on-line tutorials to get replication setup between SQL Server 2005 and SQL Server Compact Edition. I get to the point where I run the Configure Web Synchronization and it is running through the process where it is doing the automated configuration of the shared directory - assigning users etc.
I have attempted this step with a user account that I expressly created for snapshots and with the Administrator account and get the following error message:
* The operation completed successfully. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070000)
At first, I thought this was a rights issue due to the fact that I was using an account that I manually created. However, by using the Administrator account (test only until I can figure this out) that should have removed any rights issues associated with accessing the shared directory where the snapshot will reside.
Any help in getting this figured out will be greatly appreciated.
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I completed that example that I pasted in the subject part and when I try to synchronize my mobile database, the data from the server appear in my pocket pc; but when i refresh the data on my pocket pc they do not show on the server.
I've been trying to create an installer for a little .NET CF 3.5 app I've written for Windows Mobile. It uses SQL Server Compact 3.5. I've got the .NET CF and my program to deploy on the device using ini files and ceappmgr.exe, but when I try to do the same for SQLCE 3.5, it doesn't work (more on this in a sec).
I need my installer to install across lots of different CPU architectures, so I created an ceappmgr INI file that includes all the different cabs for the different CPU architectures. I'm trying to test the installer by making it install on my smartphone (ARM CPU). The problem is, when I install it I get an error message on the device "The installation file is not intended for this device.". I reckon this means ceappmgr is picking the wrong cab file and trying to make my phone install it!
I did a bit of testing and found out if I remove all the cabs from my ceappmgr INI file EXCEPT for the one that is appropriate for my smartphone, then it works fine! But as soon as I include a cab file that is not appropriate for my device (eg a different cpu architecture, or the ARM PPC cab file), it stops working and I get that "not intended for this device" message.
My INI file looks like this:
[CEAppManager] Version = 1.0 Component = SQL Server Compact 3.5
[SQL Server Compact 3.5] Description = Microsoft SQL Server Compact 3.5 CabFiles = sqlce.phone.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.ppc.wce5.armv4i.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsii.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsii_fp.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsiv.CAB,sqlce.wce5.mipsiv_fp.CAB,sqlce.wce5.sh4.CAB,sqlce.wce5.x86.CAB
Any idea why ceappmgr would be (seemingly) picking the wrong cab file and trying to make my device install it? Btw, my smartphone uses the "sqlce.phone.wce5.armv4i.CAB" cab file.
I've installed sqlce30.ppc.wce5.armv4i.CAB on an HP iPaq 1950 Pocket PC, provided by the Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Mobile Edition Device SDK, http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5BD8ABAA-5813-4DB3-B23A-24551DE2ECC1&displaylang=en
When I tried to interact with it, I got an error message that the .NET Compact Framework 2.0 was missing on the pocket PC.
So I installed the .NET CF v2.0 SP1 found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0c1b0a88-59e2-4eba-a70e-4cd851c5fcc4&displaylang=en and it updated both the local machine and the Pocket PC.
However, now when I use my local SSMS to talk to the SQL Server Mobile Engine, I keep getting the error:
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Mobile Edition and/or .NET Compact Framework v2.0 is not properly installed on your mobile device or the device is not responding. (SQL Server Mobile Edition ADO.NET Data Provider)
(Now I know I can communicate with the Pocket PC because I browse out to it first)
Am I missing something more fundamental, or does this not work with a non-RTM framework?
I would like to know if we can install both versions of mobile SQL (SQL CE 2.0 and SQL Mobile 2005) on the same PDA. I know that two versions of CF .Net can be installed.
Indeed, I have an old CF .Net 1.3 application connecting to a SQL CE 2.0 database and a new one using CF 2.0 and SQL Mobile 2005. The first one will be migrated but in the future ... Meanwhile, the customer wants to run the two applications without any code modification.
