Droping System Generated Index
Dec 26, 1999
Anybody had experience dropping the system generated index?
I tried to drop some auto-generated index which usually have name like _WA_Sys_[column name}_07F6335A. Then I follow the table.index name rule. It always show no such index exists in the database. But I can query these indexes in sysindexes and verify they are there. What went wrong?
Help appreciated very much.
wilson
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Apr 4, 2002
Hi,
I get the following error message while droping unique index.
Server: Msg 3723, Level 16, State 5, Line 1
An explicit DROP INDEX is not allowed on index 'dbo.ALEG.IX_ALEG'. It is being used for UNIQUE KEY constraint enforcement.
Could you please how the index can be droped.
Thanks
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Jun 21, 2001
I ran a SP that lists fragmented tables in our DB which listed almost all the tables and indexes in the DB. The list includes index names that start with "_WA_Sys_tablecolumn name_.....". Are these SQL Server generated indexes or are these statitics on the tables? What are they? If these are system generated indexes as I thought they were, how are they generated? Can these indexes be dropped or should one want to? IF so, how? Any effect on the DB performance if dropped?
Thanks for your advise.
Helen
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Why are two log files generated when using a Text Log Provider with a Connection String property set to the following expression?
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Jun 13, 2001
Hi.
Is there a way to supress a system generated error messages?
I have a stored procedure that I'm executing from Query Analyzer that updates a table and potentially generates a foreign key violation. I am trapping and handling the error, but the system generated message still displays. Is there a way to supress these messages (other than pre-checking for the condition prior to updating)?
Thanks,
Glen Smith
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Where in the configuration of the DBMS can i see evidence of this setting, and / or change it if necessary?
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We have implemented a very small reporting database which has a main table that started off small and has now grown to around half a million rows. Initially, there were no indexes on the table apart from a clustered index, but as the data has grown, performance has dropped and so we have added a number of indexes. This has resolved the performance issues.
Before creating the indexes SQL Server had auto created a number of statistic objects (_WA_Sys_000... etc). After creating the indexes, new statistic objects where created for the new indexes. In some cases, there are duplicate statistics (auto and index) for the same columns.Should I go through and drop the duplicate auto statistics? Will having duplicates cause issues at all?
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I have been searching for a means to change the System Failure Error Check policy that comes as part of the Best Practice policies. I want to look back 24 hours. The WQL query shipped with the policy doesn't have a WHERE clause component that looks at TimeGenerated. That query looks like:
IsNull(ExecuteWql('Numeric', 'rootCIMV2', 'select EventCode from Win32_NTLogEvent where EventCode=6008 and Logfile="System"'), 0)
After searching for an example of how to do this and not finding any that are specific to PBM, I decided to fall back to a very basic approach - use wbemtest.exe to try out where clause additions and see how they work, then plug the result into the policy and see if it works. As a start, I tried the following query using wbemtest.exe:
select Event Code
from Win32_NTLogEvent
where EventCode = 6008
and Logfile = 'System'
and TimeGenerated > '20130101010000.000000–000'
This works great in wbemtest.exe. My next step was to plug this into the policy condition expression as follows: IsNull(ExecuteWql ('Numeric', 'rootCIMV2', 'select EventCode from Win32_NTLogEvent where EventCode=6008 and Logfile="System" and TimeGenerated > "20130101010000.000000–000"'), 0)
When I try to manually evaluate this policy in SSMS, I receive an "Invalid Query" error message.I assume that SWbemDateTime isn't available to use inside Policy Based Management policies. All the examples of how to handle the kind of dynamic date creation I have seen are for use in PowerShell, VBScript, or SSIS. I've played with using DateDiff, DateAdd, and GetDate inside the query string, with no success.
Why does the ExecuteWql above fail?Is it at all possible to dynamically generate a datetime (say, 24 hours ago) as part of the query string parameter of the ExecuteWql call?What might that look like?
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Nov 30, 2005
I am having problem to find the right syntax to DROP a column with contrainst and recrate it
I get an error
if exists ( select * from INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS
where TABLE_NAME='myTable'
and COLUMN_NAME='myDate' )
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[myTable] DROP COLUMN myDate
GO
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[myTable] WITH NOCHECK ADD
myDate datetime CONSTRAINT [DF_myDate] DEFAULT (GetDate())
GO
Query Analyser says :
Server: Msg 5074, Level 16, State 1, Line 5
The object 'DF_myDate' is dependent on column 'myDate'.
Server: Msg 4922, Level 16, State 1, Line 5
ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN myDate failed because one or more objects access this column.
Server: Msg 2705, Level 16, State 4, Line 2
Column names in each table must be unique. Column name 'myDate' in table 'dbo.myTable' is specified more than once.
thank you for helping
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I have taken a down time of one and half hour to accomplish this task
Here is what think
Take a full database backup
Take transaction log backup
Shrinkfile using DBCC with truncateonly option
emptyfile using dbcc or drop file using alter database remove
thanks for your input guys
Rome
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CHECKDB found 0 allocation errors and 1 consistency errors in table 'sysdepends' (object ID 12).
CHECKDB found 0 allocation errors and 1 consistency errors in database 'DMBEN'.
repair_fast is the minimum repair level for the errors found by DBCC CHECKDB (DMBEN ).
I then run dbcc checkdb ('DMBEN',repair_rebuild) with no_infomsgs and I get the same messages...nothing was fixed.
Any ideas what I can do now. I tried dropping and recreating the index but the problem is on a system database and SQL won't let me drop the index.
Help.
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I tried system tables such as sysindexes and sysindexkeys tables. But could not find it.
Any help in this regard will be truly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
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I tried system tables such as sysindexes and sysindexkeys tables. But could not find it.
Any help in this regard will be truly appreciated.
Thank you.
Regards,
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Thanks in advance,
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Has anybody come across a similar issue?
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Hello
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What do I have to change to make successfully a SaveChanges()?
Thanks for your help,
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I'm familiar with how to check for the existence of a table before dropping it using the following command:
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drop table [dbo].[xxx]
How does one check for the existence of a temp table (using # syntax) before dropping it? I've tried various flavors of this command and none work. One flavor is
use tempdb
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drop table [dbo].[#xxx]
CREATE TABLE #xxx (
NumID INTEGER IDENTITY(1,1),
Exhibitor_Id INTEGER NOT NULL,
Company_Id INTEGER NOT NULL
)
Thanks.
Nick
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The first time I tried to do this, when I drop the articles, it seems to be trying to "clean up" the distribution database on the reporting server and that is taking a couple of hours to do. The disruption database is about 40 gig.
Is this correct behavior in SQL2005 replication? Is there a way to avoid this? I have all the replication pieces scripted out and would like to just drop replication, reload, and then run my scripts to recreate replication. But this "clean up" is going to cause me a lot of headache if I don't figure out what is going on.
Am I going down the wrong road here? Is there an easier way to do this? Any comments would be great!!!!
Thanks in advance for any help.
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SQL DB is DateTime. Any Suggestions?
Function UpdateException(ByVal qID As String, ByVal exception_Status As String, ByVal completed As String, byval notes as string, byVal Username as string) As Integer
dim strDate as date = datetime.now()
dim strdate1 as string = strDate.tostring("MM-dd-yy")
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Dim sqlConnection As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection(connectionString)
Dim queryString As String = "UPDATE [Master_CPD_Reports] SET [Exception_Status]=@Exception_Status, [Completed]"& _
"= @Completed, [Completion_Date]= @Completion_Date, [Username]= @Username WHERE ([Master_CPD_Reports].[QID] = @QID)"
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sqlCommand.Parameters.Add("@QID", System.Data.SqlDbType.VarChar).Value = qID
sqlCommand.Parameters.Add("@Exception_Status", System.Data.SqlDbType.VarChar).Value = exception_Status
sqlCommand.Parameters.Add("@Completed", System.Data.SqlDbType.VarChar).Value = completed
sqlCommand.Parameters.Add("@Completion_Date", System.Data.SqlDbType.varchar).Value = strDate1
sqlCommand.Parameters.Add("@Username", System.Data.SqlDbType.DateTime).Value = UserName
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Dim sqlCommand1 As System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand = New System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand(NotesUpdate, sqlConnection)
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sqlcommand1.parameters.add("@Notes", system.data.sqldbtype.varchar).value = notes
sqlcommand1.parameters.add("@UserName1", system.data.sqldbtype.varchar).value = Username
sqlcommand1.parameters.add("@Date", system.data.sqldbtype.datetime).value = DateTime.now()
Dim rowsAffected As Integer = 0
trace.warn(strdate1)
sqlConnection.Open
Try
rowsAffected = sqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery
Finally
End Try
dim rowsAffected1 as integer = 0
Try
rowsAffected1 = sqlCommand1.ExecuteNonQuery
Finally
End Try
Return rowsAffected
return rowsaffected1
sqlConnection.Close
End Function
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I am not running the webpage in a virtual directory but in
C:Inetpubwwwrootusercontrol
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the error
System.Security.SecurityException: Request for the permission of type 'System.Data.SqlClient.SqlClientPermission, System.Data, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' failed.
at System.Security.CodeAccessSecurityEngine.Check(Object demand, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean isPermSet)
at System.Security.PermissionSet.Demand()
at System.Data.Common.DbConnectionOptions.DemandPermission()
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.PermissionDemand()
at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnectionFactory.PermissionDemand(DbConnection outerConnection)
at System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenConnection(DbConnection outerConnection,
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Demand
The type of the first permission that failed was:
System.Data.SqlClient.SqlClientPermission
The Zone of the assembly that failed was:
Trusted
I looked into the .net config utility but it says unrestricted and I tried adding it to the trusted internet zones in ie options security
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when i go to http://servername/reportserver , the logon.aspx does not load and i get the following error message :
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Messages
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Any work around for this issue?
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Hello!
Hopefully someone can help me.
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at System.Collections.Hashtable.Add(Object key, Object value)
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at Microsoft.Xml.Serialization.GeneratedAssembly.ArrayOfObjectSerializer8221.Deserialize(XmlSerializationReader reader)
at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle, Xml
...
System.InvalidOperationException:
at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle, XmlDeserializationEvents events)
at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle)
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https://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=398142&SiteID=1
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