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Feb 8, 2007

I'm trying to initialize a subscriber from a backup for a pull subscription. The publisher was started before the full backup was made. I followed the instructions @ Books Online topic "Initializing a Transactional Subscription Without a Snapshot" http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms151705.aspx and How to: Initialize a Transactional Subscriber from a Backup (Replication Transact-SQL Programming) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/it-it/library/ms147834.aspx . I initialized the subscriber by restoring the db before I run the create subscriber scripts. All agents run successfully except for the following:

The network setup is that the publisher and the subscriber are in 2 different domains with the distribution database at the publisher. The subscriber agent is able to connect and run however the error on the subscriber side is:

"Agent message code 14080. The remote server "subscriber" does not exist, or has not been designated as a valid Publisher, or you may not have permission to see available Publishers."

The warning on the publisher side is in the Replication Monitor where in the status it says Uninitialized Subscription.

Any ideas on why it says it isn't initialized? Is there a StoredProc that I have to execute to initialize from backup?

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But it is doable... and doable using only the built-in SQL Server functions.
My previous post on this matter can be found here (http://sqlforums.windowsitpro....22923&highlight_key=y)

I long time ago, I found a way to do this. And since then, my backup strategy has remained fairly the same... backup the whole sql server instance... and have the ability to restore the whole instance (if/when needed). And in the end, we not only have a great backup strategy, but a strategy for disaster recovery.

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I've seen some application create extended procedures (in the master database) and create jobs and plans (in msdb).
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You'll have to be that much more intimate with the applicatons in order to understand all the components it may be adding outside it's user-database.

There a huge potential risk that you'll miss something.

Bottom line... restoring the whole SQL Server instance avoids any of the above caveats, guaranteeing a "physical restore" [of the original instance] versus one where parts of it had to be "logically" recreated and/or potentially be missing.

I admit, I also use scripts to complete a full SQL Server instance recovery. For me, it is a set of batch and sql scripts, but I only use it to expedite the process. And more importantly... the scripts are created once for an instance and doesn't have to be updated...
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and I don't even really know what goes on in model... but again... it doesn't matter...
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But it is doable... and doable using only the built-in SQL Server functions.
My previous post on this matter can be found here (http://sqlforums.windowsitpro....22923&highlight_key=y)

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You'll have to be that much more intimate with the applicatons in order to understand all the components it may be adding outside it's user-database.

There a huge potential risk that you'll miss something.

Bottom line... restoring the whole SQL Server instance avoids any of the above caveats, guaranteeing a "physical restore" [of the original instance] versus one where parts of it had to be "logically" recreated and/or potentially be missing.

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Hello!!I am relatively new to SQL and am having a problem. I have taken overa SQL 2000 db that did not have any backup plans scheduled for it. Icreated a maintenance plan that backs up the database every night andanother plan that backs up the system databases once a week. I ranboth these jobs successfully, but when I created a third plan tobackup the transaction log it fails with the following message:Executed as user: NT AUTHORITYSYSTEM. sqlmaint.exe failed. [SQLSTATE42000] (Error 22029). The step failed. I then executed the followingstatement: sp_grantlogin 'NT AuthoritySystem' which did not work.I still do not understand why I can't backup the log? The databasebacks up fine with no errors so it can't be a permission thing and Icreated the job with a maintenance plan so it has to be in fullrecovery mode. Right? How do I tell? Thank you for all yourresponses!!NS

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Thanks a lot for all the replies.
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Hi,
I have one doubt about Transaction backup. I want to take backup of highly growing database. I will take full backup every 3 days, differential backup every 1 day and transaction backup every 6 hours.

Now my question is-
When I take a transaction backup do it take backup of all transactions which are currently in progress and not committed in database?
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Jul 9, 2002

We are experiencing problems with our transaction log backup. The follow error appears when we attempt the backup.

"Backup, CHECKALOC, bulk copy, SELECT INTO, and file manipulation (such as CREATE FILE) operations on a datbase must be serialized. Reissue the statement after the current backup, CHECKALLOC or the file manipulation operation is completed."

We turned on "Truncate Log on Checkpoint" and created an online backup. Then we turned off "Truncate Log on Checkpoint" and manually saved the transaction log to tape. We thought all was well until the scheduled job to backup the transaction log to tape brought back the same error.

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Dec 29, 2000

We have a job created by the maintenance job wizard that backs up the transaction logs for all of our databases on an hourly basis. At random intervals, one of the tranaction log backups will fail with the following message in the job history:
sqlmaint.exe failed. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 22029). The step failed.

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