Inserted And Deleted Table

Aug 24, 2007



hi
for after trigger the records stored in followig table
inserted and deleted table.

but i want to know where this tables physically stored ...i mean in which database master or some other database?

and 2nd thing tigger fired for each row or for only insert,delete,update statement?

thanx

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Hi,

I am currently working on a MS SQL server 2000.

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I have tables Fab / Main / Elec / Learner_info / WS_WR.

For Fab / Main / Elec the only data i need form Learner_info is the Learner_ID field, i simply used:

INSERT INTO FAB(Leaner_ID)
SELECT Learner_ID
FROM Inserted

as a trigger to insert the ID into these tables. Everything works perfectly fine. So i assumed that i would be able to use something very similar to insert say:

Learner_ID, FNAME, LNAME, ONAME and C_NUM from the learner_info table into the WR_WS table. Apparently i was wrong I can insert the learner_ID perfectly but if i then try to add another insert trigger eg: insert fname i get an sql error:

Cannot insert the value NULL into the column 'LEARNER_ID', table 'swdt_im.WS_WR'; column does not allow nulls. INSERT fails.

Now from reading the error it suggests to me that because the second trigger is running my learner_id value has become a NULL. Obviously a primary key wont accept this value so the statement fails.

What im struggling to understand, im sure i will solve the problem eventually but i would apreciate help, and this is most important to me rather than a solution is this:

If i enter data into a row on a table does that data go into the inserted table in the same row? or does the data go into inserted as a single entry row, meaning when i tab along from learner_ID into FNAME does Learner_ID become row 1 (in inserted) and FNAME the current row? or do they go into the appropriate columns?

I was under the assumption that i could enter:

LEARNER_ID / FNAME / LNAME / ONAME / C_NUM

into one table and have a trigger insert those values into multiple other tables. Dont suppose someone can help me out im alright querying a SQL db but ive never had to develop anything other than a single table one myself before

Thanks in advance

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