Is Clustering Ever A Better Choice Than Mirroring?
Nov 8, 2007
clustering sounds expensive and arcane. Is it ever a better choice than mirroring for high availability? Perhaps when the size of the db copy is too prohibitive under the mirroring option?
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Dec 21, 2007
Guys, I really need a help . I have one database (1TB) on two servers in different location( About 1200 miles distance). SO which options will be good:
Clustering or Database Mirroring
I am totally confused . As i read from SQl-server- performance , Clustering doesn't protect data. It is server level.
Can any expert throw a light on me?
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Sep 11, 2006
Hi
I know there was a previous thread on setting up DB Mirroring and Clustering where DB Mirroring would failover first because its faster than clustering. But is there a way to set up servers to allow clustering to failover first and then use DB Mirroring failover if the cluster node fails.
thanks
P
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Sep 28, 2007
I am developing an enterprise class solution using SQL Server 2005 and MS .NET v2 and am tying determine if SQL Server 2005 (which edition and if so how) would be adequate for my proposed solution. Any feedback, tips, comments would be greatly appreciated.
As a background the solution I am developing will be web services based and used by multiple offices around the globe by over 500 users. I have already developed a prototype using a single SQL Server 2005 instance but as this solution is going to be used by offices around the world I want to have an IIS Server and SQL Server 2005 server instance in each office with "links" back to the primary SQL Server 2005 cluster in Australia.
One of my thoughts was to set up replication between the offices that would happen at midnight remote office local time and then set up triggers to update the primary cluster when assoociated data was changed on the remote sites or on the primary cluster. Does anyone know or can anyone suggest alternatives to this strategy?
I effectively need some sort of inter site caching functionality with store and foreward capabilities ...
Thanks
Andrew
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Aug 8, 2006
Up to now we have gotten by without having any local DR copies of servers (if a sql server goes down we are usually able to get it back in less than 3 hours). But I want more now. I want to trim the "down" window to no more than 5 or 10 minutes. (Immedate failover would be nice but is not an essential requirement. The essential requirement is to loose no data!)
I have a spec of knowledge in these areas:
SQL 2005 Clustering (requires approved hardware, quorum disk, etc. involved)
SQL 2005 Replicaiton
SQL 2005 Log Shipping.
SQL 2005 Database mirroring. ( needs three servers)
Which approach do you think is the most straightforward, sparing of hardware, yet reliable way to get us back up and running after a sql server failure.
TIA,
barkingdog
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Jun 14, 2007
Hello.
I am confuse and cant decide on how to setup high availability on our SQL 2005. Here's what on my mind and on resources list:
I plan to have mirroring on my SQL1 to SQL2 with the help of SQL3 as witness. So this would be automatic failover. My idea on mirroring is when SQL1 goes down, SQL3 would tell SQL2 to run and be the primary. It will automatically failover to SQL2. Right? My questions are:
1) How can I revert back to SQL1 once it is ready?
2) I read in one of the post that it is impossible to write in a mirrored DB, is this true? I mean, what's the use of failing over to the next node when it's not possible to write and update data/records?
3) If number 2 is false (i hope so), how would the data be synchronize from SQL2 back to SQL1. Those transaction that were made while SQL1 is down.
4) How about the connection string from the web applications? Would it be automatically point to SQL2? We have load balancing setup in place, would this help web application connection to automatically point to SQL2?
Another setup:
We have SAN in place (not yet used, but is planning to use for this SQL thing), EMC to be specific. My question would be:
1) For SAN setup, the data storage would be centralize. So would that mean that SQL1 and SQL2 services will use the same data and log file from the SAN storage?
2) How would you call this setup then? Can this be clustering type of high availability? Will clustering work under load balancing setup? I believe mirroring is not possible here? Right?
3) How can I setup my 3 SQL servers with the same theory in mind: when SQL1 goes down, SQL2 will take over. Data will be synchronize when SQL1 is up and running again. With automatic failover and reverting back to primary.
I read so much topics about this, but the more I research, the more I get confuse.
Any suggestions, comments, advice is greatly appreciated!
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Nov 13, 2007
We have 2 env. : Testing and Production, both are running Windows 2003 Enterprise Server with SQL Server 2005. The difference is Testing is NOT running Windows cluster but Production do so, what is the best way to transfer a database from testing to production?
We have another systems that both testing and production are running on NON-cluster and we use backup/restore to transfer the database, can it apply in this case.
And I found that there are a tools called DTC, which can transfer all DB objects from one DB to another, is it a best way to transfer between non-cluster and cluster env.?
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Is it right and why ????
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i have three tables company as co, Procurement as po,contracts as cr
Co_id as primary for co
co_id forign for po
co_id forign for cr
i want the query to get me only one record for every co_id if it has a company in certain PO or CR ( i used max fnctn to get me only one record)
result:
CO_ID,PODOCNO,CRDOCNO
----- ------- -------
1 350 400
2 355 1064
3 NULL 500
4 600 NULL
I used the left outer join in this manner
SELECT CO.CO_ID, MAX(PR.DOCNO) AS pO_DOCNO ,MAX(CR.DOCNO) AS CR_DOCNO
FROM COMPANY CO lEFT OUTER JOIN PROCUREMENT PR ON OG.CO_ID=PR.CO_ID lEFT OUTER JOIN CONTRACT CR ON CO.CO_ID=CR.CO_ID
GROUP BY OG.CO_ID
the result is ok but the problem its taking infinte time if i add more tables to the outer join, i have more tables and each with huge number of records
any better way to do this ?? its true performance is a big deaaaal
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Hi - I have a rather unreliable host just now - but they offer .net, sqlserver and SSL for a reasonable price.Problem is, the domain is hosted on a shared server - and it keeps goingdown apparantly because of code which is less than clean, on somepeoples sites. (ie. not closing connections etc).I am considering moving to a decicated server - but at this point intime, cannot afford a full SQL Server licence for it - however, thededicated server does offer MSDE. Is it acceptable to go back to usingthis from SQL Server - for a currently low hit site - ie. around 500hits per day.Does MSDE offer stored procedures (I don't use views or triggers)? CanI just take a DTC backup/export of my current SQL Server database, andrestore it to the MSDE one?What would be the cut-off point for using MSDE?Thanks for any info - also, if anyone knows why UK companies charge somuch more dor dedicated servers, than US companies - I'd be interested.Thanks, Mark*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!
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Hi,
I created a application in VB and backend database for this is SQL Server 2005. So far I was working on "SQL Express", as a testing one. I have almost 20 Tables and also lot of stored procedure. From the programming point of view, the database is not that much of large. The size grows only when the pictures are added to the database. Its not a client/server application(only desktop application).
If i install Enterprise Edition, will it Consumes large space and memory into the client machine. What about performance issue.
Right now i have two editions SQL Express and SQL Enterprise Edition.
Which edition you would like to suggest on the basis of information provided as above.
Thanks.
Best Regards
Kashif Chotu
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Hi,
I am using a stored procedure to take backup of my database from the Visual Basic Programming.
Before i posted one of my thread with the same thing, so i was recommended to go through with DMOSQL do deal with SQL server with Visual Basic Programming. For me, this takes some time to understand the complete concept.
Because of urgent i am using stored procedure to take backup with the following:
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ALTER PROCEDURE dbo.BackUPBLMSDB
(
@RP nvarchar(200)
)
AS
declare @backupfilename nvarchar(200)
set @backupfilename=@RP
BACKUP DATABASE [BLMSDB] TO DISK = @backupfilename WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'BLMSDB-Full Database Backup', SKIP, NOREWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
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Example @RP="D:ackupBackup-1 09-02-2008 11-24"
Every time i am passing a parameter with somename and dateandtime(System).
Example
Backup-1 09-02-2008 11-24 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 12-30 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 18-10 5400KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 22-00 2900KB
Backup-1 09-02-2008 22-00 2900KB
I would like to clear my doubt, is it a good practice to take backup with different names. The above one i store four backups . If the system crashes and i created the new database with the same schema without any data present in the tables, can i restore previous backup database to the newly created database.
Moreover, The first two backups contains "2900KB", the third one is "5400KB" after the data is being modified. Look at the fourth one it is "2900KB". Why the size is being reduced to "2900KB" after taking backup eventhough i didn't delete or added data into the database.
Hope you will solve my problem.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Kashif Chotu
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4) Application is usually installed on normal desktop machines. So, DB should not load the PC heavily.
Please advice if SQL Express is the right direction even with these constraints? What are the other alternatives? We are open to have a small consulting project as well with someone who can guide us through these issues. Email to contact is rkabra101@yahoo.com
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Server A = primary SQL DBs (mirroring origination)
Server B = failover SQL DBs (mirroring destination)
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Can the witness live in another instance of SQL on server B?
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