Large Table Loads && Transaction Log Issues
Apr 7, 2004
I have a table that’s about 3 gigs, using this table and a few others I’m making another table. The problem is when making the new table my transaction log inflates so much that I’m running out of disk space. What I can I do to prevent this or to keep the transaction log size under control?
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Aug 17, 2007
Hello. I have a 32-bit SQL 2005 (SP1) server that is my current Production server. I also have a 64-bit SQL 2005 (SP1) server that will become my Production server. I have several SSIS packages that load/refresh data on a nightly basis to a few of my databases from DB2 (MVS). I have the packages setup on the current Production server (32-bit) and all is working well through the Microsoft OLE DB provider for DB2. However, on the 64-bit server, I am experiencing some issues with the SSIS packages failing due to large loads. Loads that are loading tables with 500K, or less, data seem to run without issue (through SQL Agent Jobs). But, larger table loads are failing.
I do have a linked server set up on the 64-bit server to the 32-bit server, for other processes. And because of this I have lightweight pooling turned off on the 64-bit server (because of distributed querying). Lightweight pooling is turned on on the 32-bit server. Could this be what is causing some of my issue? Since I don't have the lightweight pooling option turned on (on the 64-bit server), am I not getting the proper amount of through-put for my 8 dual core CPU server?
Thanks
Scottye
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Jan 30, 2007
I often in my job come across the following scenario:
Client rings up and says Run out of server space due to SQL 2000 Transaction log has consumed all the space or has consumed a very large portion of it.
what is the correct procedure in resolving this ASAP working with Full mode SQl 2000 Databases. as i have other
guys within my company that all do different things with good result and sometimes bad results.
The procedure i use is the following:
METHOD 1
1.backup both database and transaction log
2.Right click the database and select Detach, which from my understanding is a clean detach method which ensures that uncommited transactions are commited to the database.
3. Rename the old transaction log to .ldfOLD
4. REATTACH Database which creates a new transaction log.
METHOD 2
1. I dont use this method but im pretty sure its risky and if possible
can someone provide me with the reasons why:
1.Change database method from full to simple mode, shrink logs
and then change back to full mode.
basically what i am asking is what is the fastest way to sort out the above issue most effectively and with the abilty to Roleback succesfully.
PLEASE dont comment on why is the transaction log so big as i dont want to look into that now all i am sking is what is the most effective method to shrink the log down and save space.
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Feb 3, 2006
I'm working with a database that has a relatively small amount of data. The size of the data file for this database is in the 100-110 MB range, which gives an idea of its size and how much data is in it. What is slightly troubling and baffling, is that the transaction file for this same database is significantly larger than the data file, at about 2.5 GB. What could be happening that is causing this transaction log to be larger than the actual database size?
Thx
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Feb 24, 2000
I am new to SQL and might be missing something very easy. I have a situation where the space allocated to the transaction log of a database is extremly large (5 Gig). I can not manually reduce it. This gives me a "Error 21335: [SQL-DMO]The new DBfile size must be larger than its current size." This is a problem because the increase in size has taken all available space on the server.
Mike
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Oct 10, 2000
Hello everyone,
I'm not sure if this is a problem but I've got a database which is about 1700mg in size (at least that's the allocated space on disk) and the log file is over 4600 mb. I've truncated the log file but it still keeps growing. None of our other databases are this large and there are a lot of transactions performed regularly but it looks odd to me that the log is this big when the data is half the size. How can I find out exactly how much space is being taken up by the data and is there anything I can do that will shrink the size of the log file? I am not really a dba so I'm not sure how crucial this is in the grand scheme of things.
Thanks
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Apr 4, 2007
i have a few tables using Sql Server 2005 Express. currently they are holding roughly 30-40k records in them. i have my log files set at restricted growth to 90 megs. while im not close to reaching that, i would like my tables to be able to scale up to possibly millions of records. based on that, i figure the transaction log file will prolly need to have a higher threshold (unrestricted growth). for those with experience, for tables that have millions of records, what are the average size log files i could expect.
is it a bad idea to just shrink the log file every night during off peak hours so that regardless of the amount of records i have, ill always start the day with a minimal log file?
do large log files have any effect on SQL performance?
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Jan 23, 2008
I have a huge table with ~30G data, and a column needs to be updated. In order to avoid a huge transaction, what I did was setting up a loop, update part of the records in each loop. The query is like following:
Declare @mo smalldatetime
Declare MOs cursor
for
Select [a month] from [a table]
Open MOs
Fetch Next from MOs into @mo
while @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
Begin
exec sp_UpdateColumn @mo
-- PRINT @mo
Fetch Next from MOs into @mo
end
close MOs
deallocate MOs
sp_UpdateColumn is the query that actually does the update, the code is like following:
Create Procedure sp_UpdateColumn @updMoDate smalldatetimeAS
[do some calculation here, store results in a temp table #Temp1]
Begin TranUpdate A set col =b.col from [big table] A, #Temp1 B where [some matching conditions]Commit GO
The BEGIN TRAN and COMMIT lines were meant to break up transaction, however, our database support people still tell me that a huge transaction has generated a GB sized log file that blocked the drive. Unless the transaction wasn't really splitted this should not happen. Can someone help me take a look at the code and tell me is there anything wrong? Thanks
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hi all,
my tlogs at the subscriber are growing very large
irregardless of my recovery mode. any help
using snapshot-push replication
thanks,
joey
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Oct 12, 2002
Gurus,
I have inherited a SQL 2000 database ( (I am new to SQL DBA) and I found this when I was checking the db properites . The transaction log has grown bigger than the actual data file, I thought transaction log backups would truncate the inactive portion of the log file and shrink the transaction log, but it was not the case it seems, may be it was truncating the inactive portion of the log, but not shrinking it. This site does not have a job for truncating the data/log files periodically. What is the best method to deal this situation, how can I shrink the Transaction log quickly?,
All your suggestions are welcome.
TIA,
-Jay
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Jun 5, 2015
Currently we has a database of size about 300G. Because our backup system failed some time past we were left with a transaction log file which grew to about 160G. However our backups are working again and everything is working fine. My understanding is that now the transaction log file is practically empty but the capacity remains at 160G.
When you delete records the deleted transactions are going to get logged to the transaction file. My understanding is when a backup is done these transactions get discarded out of the transaction file.
could I make use of this relatively large transaction file and start deleting transactions without out actually adding to the transaction file size.
The plan is to delete records from logging tables that are not referenced to by any other table without this increasing the transaction log file.For example over a period of a few weeks we can delete a chunk of records from a table. Then after it has completed a backup we can delete another chunk of records out of this table until we have got the table down to the records that we now need.Will this work?
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With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Thanks
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This process is working fine, (given the 45 minutes it takes to repopulate data in the DESTINATION table), but what I really need is a way to load only the rows that are NEW and UPDATED. I would also need functionality to DELETE the rows that have been removed (sounds like a MERGE, right?).I tried using MERGE and MERGE JOIN transformations but these transformations seem to be different from the T-SQL MERGE statement. MERGE seems like a slow UNION and MERGE JOIN only seems to work with SELECTS.
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This is the code i use.
Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection
Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
Private Sub Form_Load()
Set cnn = New ADODB.Connection
cnn.ConnectionString = "driver={SQL Server};" & "server=SCHS-SQL;uid=sa;pwd=sa;database=Library"
cnn.Open
Call loadrst
End Sub
Public Sub loadrst()
Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
Dim sql1 As String
sql1 = "select * from Books order by srno"
rst.Open sql1, cnn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic, adCmdText
If rst.EOF = True Then
MsgBox ("No records are present")
Command1.Enabled = False
Else
Call display
Command1.Enabled = True
End If
End Sub
This is the code i use basically to connect my vb6 application to sql server 2005. I had started out lately trying to use sql server instead of access. So far none of the program have given any problems as the databases has a max one of 120 records. But the one which this code connects to has about 5200 records. I had imported the tables from access into sql server. The size of the database was around 17.67mb so i shrank it and it became 4mb. But still it takes roughly 2 minutes for the user to see the records in the grid. Could you tell me what to do?
Sheldon
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Nov 27, 2007
Hi,
In a dataflow there is a Flat File Source that loads a file with 500000 rows but when I execute the package it only loads 249999, I have verified the file and every looks fine, it is a csv and ms-excel recognized it perfectly.
I'm wondering if there is any technical limitation regarding to the amount of rows per file?
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Nov 16, 2007
I am developing an application that has a table with lots of records(network traffic) but the data is summarize every so often to create summary records (old records are deleted). The problem is that I have a PK based on an autoincrement ID (int) that will run out of numbers. However, this ID is not referenced anywhere, (not a foreign key from another table, not use for deletion and there is no update in this table whatsoever).
So my possibilites are:
1.- reseed the id when it is about to run out.
2.- make the id bigint
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4.- remove the id and without PK
I am leaning toward option 4, because I do not see the need for a PK, but I understand that it is quite out of the normal.. So I would like to hear from other people ( I do not have much experience with DB).
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Hi,
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Mar 3, 2004
I have a table of approx 1/2 million rows.
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I'd like to do this with minimal interuption to the website.
Possible techniques:
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2) I could export to a flat file and then bulk import into the live table (after truncating it)
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Mar 1, 2002
Hi,
I am absolutely innocent as far as T-SQL is concerned. I need to detect all duplicates (key consists of 5 fields) in the table and delete the duplicates.
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Aug 6, 2004
OK, I imported 680 million records into an unindexed table. That went well.
Then, I went into Enterprise Manager and added a two column non-unique clustered index to that table to speed access.
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SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition (8.00.818 - sp3 + hotfixes)
Dual 3Ghz Xeon (two physical CPUs each have HyperThreading enabled)
Windows 2000 SP4
4GB RAM (although I just noticed the 3GB OS switch wasn't on)
SCSI boot drive
tempdb, data, and transaction log are on a FibreChannel RAID SAN
Help! Thanks in advance!
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